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    #32
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    How are people feeling about eradication now?


    'No evidence' of immunity in recovered patients - WHO
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0418/1132298-who-anti-bodies-covid-19/


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    #33
    yosemitesam1
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    How are people feeling about eradication now?


    'No evidence' of immunity in recovered patients - WHO
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0418/1132298-who-anti-bodies-covid-19/

    It's been well known for years that long term immunity to most coronavirus strains is never achieved.
    There is no evidence a vaccine will be any different.


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    #34
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    Why can't each county ban international travel and any suppliers that do need to travel are tested on entry and exit? Each country should eradicate it first. That would surely be quicker than a vaccine?


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    #35
    One eyed Jack
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    It just wouldn’t be economically viable really.

    I suspect that if Government here were to open up county by county, we would see a small scale of what it would be like to open country by country - people would get very resentful of their neighbours freedoms and feel as though they were being punished unfairly.


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    #36
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    It just wouldn’t be economically viable really.

    I suspect that if Government here were to open up county by county, we would see a small scale of what it would be like to open country by country - people would get very resentful of their neighbours freedoms and feel as though they were being punished unfairly.

    But just talking ballpark, we should have no new cases in 5/6 months time. Then we could go back to normal completely (that's assuming all travel was banned outside the country and all necessary services were tested upon entering).


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    #37
    trapp
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    If it was that simple someone would have thought of it already.


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    #38
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    trapp wrote: »
    If it was that simple someone would have thought of it already.

    Great insight.


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    #39
    trapp
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    MattS1 wrote: »
    Great insight.

    Well my poor man it's about all I can give your proposal

    It just wouldn't work.

    The world is too connected and would simply stop functioning if no travel was allowed and everyone stayed indoors for 6 months.

    Even doing that might not eradicate it in one country, never mind every country


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    #40
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    trapp wrote: »
    Well my poor man it's about all I can give your proposal

    It just wouldn't work.

    The world is too connected and would simply stop functioning if no travel was allowed and everyone stayed indoors for 6 months.

    Even doing that might not eradicate it in one country, never mind every country

    It wouldn't mean everyone needs to be indoors for 6 months, it could be done the same way we are doing it now. The only exception is the ban on travel. New Zealand have already done this and have been successful.


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    #41
    trapp
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    MattS1 wrote: »
    It wouldn't mean everyone needs to be indoors for 6 months, it could be done the same way we are doing it now. The only exception is the ban on travel. New Zealand have already done this and have been successful.

    The world is too connected

    Wouldn't work.

    forget the idea.


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    #42
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    trapp wrote: »
    The world is too connected

    Wouldn't work.

    forget the idea.

    It would

    No.

    Cheers


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    #43
    trapp
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    MattS1 wrote: »
    It would

    No.

    Cheers

    If it would work my poor friend why are we not doing it?


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    #44
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    trapp wrote: »
    If it would work my poor friend why are we not doing it?

    That's the question...my poor friend.


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    #45
    trapp
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    The fact my poor man that nobody else has even responded to your post tells you all you need to know!!


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    #46
    CtevenSrowder
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    MattS1 wrote: »
    That's the question...my poor friend.

    And the answer is because it wouldn't work. End of thread.


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    #47
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    trapp wrote: »
    The fact my poor man that nobody else has even responded to your post tells you all you need to know!!

    If you've nothing to add, then cheerio. Good man yourself.


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    #48
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    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    And the answer is because it wouldn't work. End of thread.

    Why?


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    #49
    longgonesilver
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    If China can do it, why can't we?


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    #50
    Beasty
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    Threads merged


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    #51
    CtevenSrowder
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    Mateo Nice Tooth wrote: »
    Why?

    Why do you think? I'm not bothered doing your thinking for you. How long will it take for the virus to be "eradicated"? Start there.


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    #52
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    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    Why do you think? I'm not bothered doing your thinking for you. How long will it take for the virus to be "eradicated"? Start there.

    Few months per country. 6 maximum.


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    #53
    CtevenSrowder
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    Mateo Nice Tooth wrote: »
    Few months per country. 6 maximum.

    And you've based that timeline on what? Is that 6 months from now, or from our first case.


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    #54
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    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    And you've based that timeline on what? Is that 6 months from now, or from our first case.

    On the rate of decrease of new cases. Obviously it's approximate unless you want an exact date?


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    #55
    CtevenSrowder
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    Mateo Nice Tooth wrote: »
    On the rate of decrease of new cases. Obviously it's approximate unless you want an exact date?

    So 6 months from now? Have you taken into account the likelihood of new cases increasing after a lifting of restrictions which is to occur in the very near future? What then?

    It's a widely held belief that Corona is here to stay until we get a vaccine, which we may not get, which at best estimates is 18 months away. The average for a new vaccine is ~10-15 years in ordinary circumstances.


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    #56
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    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    So 6 months from now? Have you taken into account the likelihood of new cases increasing after a lifting of restrictions which is to occur in the very near future? What then?

    It's a widely held belief that Corona is here to stay until we get a vaccine, which we may not get, which at best estimates is 18 months away. The average for a new vaccine is ~10-15 years in ordinary circumstances.

    Yes, they rise slightly and then are reduced until eliminated.


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    #57
    CtevenSrowder
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    Mateo Nice Tooth wrote: »
    Yes, they rise slightly and then are reduced until eliminated.

    So you are saying that Corona virus will be eliminated in 6 months? Ye, ok.

    Goodnight and goodluck.


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    #58
    ek motor
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    Mateo Nice Tooth wrote: »
    On the rate of decrease of new cases. Obviously it's approximate unless you want an exact date?

    The current rate of decrease is due to unprecedented social restrictions on a global scale, these are unsustainable until such time as there is a vaccine (that is the only way Covid-19 can be 'eradicated'). Therefore restrictions are and will be further lifted across the globe, stemming and then reversing the rate of decrease.


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    #59
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    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    So you are saying that Corona virus will be eliminated in 6 months? Ye, ok.

    Goodnight and goodluck.

    Cheerio, good man. Close your mind again. Thanks


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    #60
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    ek motor wrote: »
    The current rate of decrease is due to unprecedented social restrictions on a global scale, these are unsustainable until such time as there is a vaccine (that is the only way Covid-19 can be 'eradicated'). Therefore restrictions are and will be further lifted across the globe, stemming and then reversing the rate of decrease.

    So do you see 100+ new cases in Ireland until next summer?


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    #61
    CtevenSrowder
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    Mateo Nice Tooth wrote: »
    Cheerio, good man. Close your mind again. Thanks

    I'm not closing my mind. Can you find any reputable source that suggests it's possible to "eradicate" coronavirus in 6 months max?


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