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costs if you end up in hospital with covid19

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  • 02-04-2020 11:02pm
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    Dave Lillis
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭


    Hi,
    I've a quick question, say you end up in hospital and go through the intensive care unit, all as a public patient, and then assuming you survive it all, what will the bill be at the end if you stay 2-3 weeks in the hospital ?


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    Jurgen Klopp
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    I think I remember reading somewhere before the max you can be charged for a hospital stay in Ireland in any 12 months period is circa €800?


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    NaiveMelodies
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    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    I think I remember reading somewhere before the max you can be charged for a hospital stay in Ireland in any 12 months period is circa €800?

    Correct. 10 days x 80.


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    owlbethere
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    I think Leo mentioned this in one of his earlier speeches. He said, the state will pay for the hospital treatment if you end up in hospital with Covid-19.

    Honest to god, that in and off itself is like a lottery.


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    Mrs OBumble
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    Nothing in you have a medical card.

    €800, if you've paid nothing in in-patient charges in the last 12 months.

    €800 less the amount you've paid if you have paid some inpatient charges in the last 12 months.


    Or less if it's covered by some sort of special Covid deal.


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    owlbethere
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    It's said that 80% who get this will have a mild dose to be treated at home. 20% will need to go to hospital and about 5% of them will need to go to ICU.

    I'm following all the guidelines and hopefully I don't get this virus. If I do get the virus, I have plans in place to make it as comfortable as possible at home and hopefully I will be able to get through the dose at home.

    Would it be a good idea to pack a bag for the hospital and to do so now that I am good and well, just in case I need to go to hospital?

    What would I pack in a hospital bag?
    Pyjamas
    Clean socks and underwear? For how many days?
    An activity I like, like reading or knitting


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    owlbethere
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Nothing in you have a medical card.

    €800, if you've paid nothing in in-patient charges in the last 12 months.

    €800 less the amount you've paid if you have paid some inpatient charges in the last 12 months.


    Or less if it's covered by some sort of special Covid deal.

    I'm nearly certain I heard leo mention something in one of his talks to the nation.


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    Wesser
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    We are so lucky. In the states they are charging people for covid testing. Means that people arent availing of it. Which is affecting the broader public health picture and increasing the spread.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
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    Cost is zero to you


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    Wibbs
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    In musical terms and in personal healthcare cost terms...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubc3o2KZA4w


    Thank Christ.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    Spanish Eyes
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    It's the last thing to worry about. You will be cared for very well.


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    Dave Lillis
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    thanks everyone


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    ShineOn7
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    owlbethere wrote: »

    I'm following all the guidelines and hopefully I don't get this virus. If I do get the virus, I have plans in place to make it as comfortable as possible at home and hopefully I will be able to get through the dose at home.


    Hi

    Without giving away too many personal details, can I ask what are these plans?


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    ShineOn7
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    Kaya Rhythmic Molecule wrote: »
    Cost is zero to you




    Source?


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    careless sherpa
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    It's said that 80% who get this will have a mild dose to be treated at home. 20% will need to go to hospital and about 5% of them will need to go to ICU.

    I'm following all the guidelines and hopefully I don't get this virus. If I do get the virus, I have plans in place to make it as comfortable as possible at home and hopefully I will be able to get through the dose at home.

    Would it be a good idea to pack a bag for the hospital and to do so now that I am good and well, just in case I need to go to hospital?

    What would I pack in a hospital bag?
    Pyjamas
    Clean socks and underwear? For how many days?
    An activity I like, like reading or knitting

    Just bring the wool and knitting needles and make the own PJs, socks and underwear.


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    SweetCaliber
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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Source?

    States it in this arcticle:
    https://www.thejournal.ie/private-hospitals-ireland-coronavirus-5056334-Mar2020/


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    Thoie
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    It's said that 80% who get this will have a mild dose to be treated at home. 20% will need to go to hospital and about 5% of them will need to go to ICU.

    I'm following all the guidelines and hopefully I don't get this virus. If I do get the virus, I have plans in place to make it as comfortable as possible at home and hopefully I will be able to get through the dose at home.

    Would it be a good idea to pack a bag for the hospital and to do so now that I am good and well, just in case I need to go to hospital?

    What would I pack in a hospital bag?
    Pyjamas
    Clean socks and underwear? For how many days?
    An activity I like, like reading or knitting

    While I think having a bag packed is a little OTT, having a list of what to pack ready is a good idea.


    Given that you've no idea how long you'll be in for,or how sick you'll be, I'd put down 2 pairs of PJs (and someone to drop you in clean ones, launder the old ones). If you're very sick, most of the things below will be unnecessary.

    A dressing gown and slippers.
    You're unlikely to be wandering around outside your room, so just one set of clean underwear for coming home in.
    Phone/tablet/kindle/watch chargers
    A book of crosswords/puzzles/colouring books/knitting - some distraction that you can pick up and put down.
    Pre load kindle with books, or a few physical books - don't rely on WiFi in hospital, your room may have bad signal, if there's any at all.
    Toiletries - toothpaste, toothbrush, shampoo, conditioner, body lotion
    Hand cream
    Box of tissues
    Double bin bags for sending laundry home
    Notebook and pen
    Water bottle (if you're a bottle kind of person)
    Headphones (noise cancelling, but also some that don't need batteries/charging)
    List of all your current medications and dosages (print that out now)
    List of your medical history (previous operations/treatments - print that out now)
    Health insurance details (if any)
    Small amount of cash (if they're still doing newspapers/sweets trolley)


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    lonestargirl
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    If you are in isolation you won't be leaving your room and no-one will be coming in except in PPE so the cash and water bottle won't be needed.


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    fryup
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    have the VHI made any statement about it?


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    Jinglejangle69
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    I think Leo mentioned this in one of his earlier speeches. He said, the state will pay for the hospital treatment if you end up in hospital with Covid-19.

    Honest to god, that in and off itself is like a lottery.

    The government don't care about us.

    They only care about money.

    Or something to thst affect.


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    SuperRabbit
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    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    I think I remember reading somewhere before the max you can be charged for a hospital stay in Ireland in any 12 months period is circa €800?

    Unless you're a non-EU citizen, in which case there is no cap, right? :(


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    Wesser wrote: »
    We are so lucky. In the states they are charging people for covid testing. Means that people arent availing of it. Which is affecting the broader public health picture and increasing the spread.

    That's what thinking socialism is a dirty word will get ya


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    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Unless you're a non-EU citizen, in which case there is no cap, right? :(

    Correct but most non eu residents would have insurance


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    ILoveYourVibes
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Nothing in you have a medical card.

    €800, if you've paid nothing in in-patient charges in the last 12 months.

    €800 less the amount you've paid if you have paid some inpatient charges in the last 12 months.


    Or less if it's covered by some sort of special Covid deal.

    Anyone who thinks there is a fixed number is naive. How could you have a fixed number for every single patient?


    It will depend on your treatment will you need a ventilator will you have to go into ICU etc.


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    fryup
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    poor b@stards in america without health insurance would have to fork out on average $35k in hospital costs


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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks there is a fixed number is naive. How could you have a fixed number for every single patient?


    It will depend on your treatment will you need a ventilator will you have to go into ICU etc.

    It won't depend on anything. As already stated, hospital treatment for covid 19 is free. Leo said “We must of course have equality of treatment, patients with this virus will be treated for free, and they’ll be treated as part of a single, national hospital service."


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    jlm29
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks there is a fixed number is naive. How could you have a fixed number for every single patient?


    It will depend on your treatment will you need a ventilator will you have to go into ICU etc.

    The OP asked about the cost to them, not to the state. There is a fixed number for every public patient admitted to a public hosp, not covered by insurance or a medical card. It’s €80/night, up to a max of €800.

    Edited to add- this is not for covid, it’s the usual scenario. Others have said there’s no charge for covid admissions.


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    fin12
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    fryup wrote: »
    poor b@stards in america without health insurance would have to fork out on average $35k in hospital costs

    Trump just said in press conference treatment for covid 19 is free. People who have no health care will be treated and not charged.


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    ILoveYourVibes
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    jlm29 wrote: »
    The OP asked about the cost to them, not to the state. There is a fixed number for every public patient admitted to a public hosp, not covered by insurance or a medical card. It’s €80/night, up to a max of €800.

    Edited to add- this is not for covid, it’s the usual scenario. Others have said there’s no charge for covid admissions.

    No its not. I was charged more than that ..they added the cost of certain drugs and tests to the max of 800.


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    jlm29
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    No its not. I was charged more than that ..they added the cost of certain drugs and tests to the max of 800.

    They’re not going to charge anyone extra for being ventilated as per your last post


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    splinter65
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    No its not. I was charged more than that ..they added the cost of certain drugs and tests to the max of 800.

    In the public system the max is €800 in a rolling year. No matter what tests or treatment or no matter how many nights you were in. If you are alleging that you were charged more then that and you have evidence that you were charged and paid more then that (should be easy to prove, they sent you an invoice and if you’ve lost that invoice they can send you another) then you will be reimbursed.
    If it’s a case that you demanded certain tests/drugs that the hospital didn’t think were appropriate then you did that at your own expense.


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