Championship and Covid

manofwisdom

padd b1975 wrote: »

Leagues?

As of now.

NFL round 6 October 17th/18th

Round 7 October 24th/25th

PTH2009

manofwisdom wrote: »

As of now.

NFL round 6 October 17th/18th

Round 7 October 24th/25th

Does the team that finish 1st in each Division win the title with no finals this year ?

Promotion/Relegation same as before

Realt Dearg Sec

I've no idea how anyone could prefer no championship to an imperfect championship. Going on the matches I watched today, the quality was sky high and it was only club level, I've no doubt the inter county will be as high quality at least. Be a great thing to look forward to during the winter months, after a ****e year for everyone.

manofwisdom

PTH2009 wrote: »

Does the team that finish 1st in each Division win the title with no finals this year ?

Promotion/Relegation same as before

Correct.

PTH2009

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1165052/

TCDStudent1

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1165052/

That would be fantastic.

CrabRevolution

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I've no idea how anyone could prefer no championship to an imperfect championship. Going on the matches I watched today, the quality was sky high and it was only club level, I've no doubt the inter county will be as high quality at least. Be a great thing to look forward to during the winter months, after a ****e year for everyone.

I think some people take it quite personally that they wouldn't be there if the championship is run and (in a rare accurate use of the phrase) begrudgery drives their response; "I don't have it, so nobody should".

arctictree

Club near me, one of the kids has tested positive. Their senior team is in a county semi final. What's the protocol here? Does the club have to close down and forfeit?

blowitupref

arctictree wrote: »

Club near me, one of the kids has tested positive. Their senior team is in a county semi final. What's the protocol here? Does the club have to close down and forfeit?

Close down until all close contacts are tested.

wirelessdude01

arctictree wrote: »

Club near me, one of the kids has tested positive. Their senior team is in a county semi final. What's the protocol here? Does the club have to close down and forfeit?

Semi final should be put on ice until they can partake. This is written into the rules for us this year in our county by laws.

Klonker

Just wondering with a new travel list expected out today, if a person returns from a green list country, does that mean they can play GAA as soon as they return? I'd assume they can as that's the point of the green list, no quarentine because you are no more likely to pick up virus there that in Ireland. Probably up to the club to the club to balance the risk and make a decision.

munchkin_utd

Klonker wrote: »

Just wondering with a new travel list expected out today, if a person returns from a green list country, does that mean they can play GAA as soon as they return? I'd assume they can as that's the point of the green list, no quarentine because you are no more likely to pick up virus there that in Ireland. Probably up to the club to the club to balance the risk and make a decision.

that would be the idea, and as it stands the threshold will be 25 cases per 100,000 over a fortnight, which is much less than Ireland , and a third of Dublins rate, so you could say that if you come back from a green list country you are much safer to have playing than someone coming from Dublin

(in reality peoples minds think more like: abroad=dangerous dark place with dragons and covid, Dublin=grand, not a bother - so going straight from a holiday into training might not be very socially acceptable even if it logically is safer than coming from Dublin)

mountgomery burns

arctictree wrote: »

Club near me, one of the kids has tested positive. Their senior team is in a county semi final. What's the protocol here? Does the club have to close down and forfeit?

Think it's just the team they are involved in has to suspend activities, I know some other club did that earlier in the year but most have suspended all activity to be on the safe side.

Slipperydodger

It has been confirmed that 200 people will be allowed attend sporting events where the capacity of a stadium is 5,000.
For smaller venues, 100 spectators can attend matches.

blowitupref

Slipperydodger wrote: »

It has been confirmed that 200 people will be allowed attend sporting events where the capacity of a stadium is 5,000.
For smaller venues, 100 spectators can attend matches.

Only 200 is not much use for upcoming county finals that normally have at average 5k at them.

Now with more covid cases per week its ok for 200 supporters, Can anyone now explain the logic why games was put behind closed door on August 18th, the car pooling and meeting up after matches seems to be forgotten about all of sudden?

KIB4Life

Slipperydodger wrote: »

It has been confirmed that 200 people will be allowed attend sporting events where the capacity of a stadium is 5,000.
For smaller venues, 100 spectators can attend matches.

Does the 200 include players and officials like it did before or is the 200 people separate to players and officials.

Kerrydude1981

KIB4Life wrote: »

Does the 200 include players and officials like it did before or is the 200 people separate to players and officials.

No its separate this time I think

kippy

blowitupref wrote: »

Only 200 is not much use for upcoming county finals that normally have at average 5k at them.

Now with more covid cases per week its ok for 200 supporters, Can anyone now explain the logic why games was put behind closed door on August 18th, the car pooling and meeting up after matches seems to be forgotten about all of sudden?

Would you rather the current restrictions were maintained indefinetly?

Fr Tod Umptious

blowitupref wrote: »

Only 200 is not much use for upcoming county finals that normally have at average 5k at them.

Now with more covid cases per week its ok for 200 supporters, Can anyone now explain the logic why games was put behind closed door on August 18th, the car pooling and meeting up after matches seems to be forgotten about all of sudden?

There is no logic, it was a knee-jerk reaction by the Govt.

arctictree

Just looking at the levels. Level 3 is a bit weird:

Training

Outdoors: Non contact training only in pods of up to 15 (exemption for professional/elite/inter-county sports/senior club championship).

Indoors: Individual training only. No exercise or dance classes.

Matches and events

No matches or events to take place.

Exemption: professional/elite/inter-county/club championship/horse-racing can take place behind closed doors.

So only senior club teams can train in groups over 15 but all club championship games can take place?

Realt Dearg Sec

The rules are mental at this stage, there is no rhyme or reason to any of it. It has a stink of committee room codology where lads pipe up with random recommendations to be seen to have contributed and you end up with a mess.

brookville

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

No its separate this time I think

How are tickets allocated?
Is it a hundred per club?

PTH2009

hard to see the normal joe punter who may even had a season ticket holders getting access to IC games

Its going to be interesting to see how tickets are going to divided

Bonniedog

I trust that when all the govt, SF, Labour and SD TDs come looking for tickets for the AI finals, assuming there are any, will be told to take a running jump.

Heard of one fker here in Dublin begging for a tkt for county final when the clown he helped elect voted for all this cr@p.

kippy

brookville wrote: »

How are tickets allocated?
Is it a hundred per club?

100 names to be submitted by the club generally.
This wouldn't generally include any people not a parent of a player or involved in management.
Minor Final coming up in next few days. 30 players. 2 parents per player and the coaches etc..that's the 100.
Maybe where parental involvement isn't as big a deal that will be different but it may be the players two guests that get the nod.


This stuff is damn near impossible to organise/police for most clubs.

wirelessdude01

Is the 100 people to include match day squads, management and referee team?

kippy

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Is the 100 people to include match day squads, management and referee team?

The 200 people yeah

mountgomery burns

Pretty sure it's 200 spectators this time and not as previous

Link https://www.gaa.ie/news/200-spectators-permitted-to-attend-gaa-matches-at-large-venues/

wirelessdude01

kippy wrote: »

The 200 people yeah

We have an underage final coming up in the near future. Have a panel of 29 training since January. 5 management.

Two parents per player is 58 plus players and management brings it up to 92. A few club officials makes up the allocated 100.

mountgomery burns

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

We have an underage final coming up in the near future. Have a panel of 29 training since January. 5 management.

Two parents per player is 58 plus players and management brings it up to 92. A few club officials makes up the allocated 100.

Are you in Dublin?

Boom__Boom

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/18e18-level-2/#sports

This is for level 2

Sports
Training

Outdoors: training can take place in pods of up to 15 (exemption for professional/elite/inter-county sports/senior club championship).

Indoors: training, exercise and dance classes can take place in pods of up to 6 inside (exemption for professional/elite/inter-county sports/senior club championship).

Matches and events

up to 100 patrons/spectators outdoors and 50 patrons/spectators indoors

up to 200 for outdoor stadia or other fixed outdoor venues with a minimum accredited capacity of 5,000

For large purpose built event facilities (such as stadia, auditoriums, conferencing/event centres), specific guidance will be developed with the relevant sectors to take account of size and different conditions for events such as large national and international sporting events.

Gyms, leisure centres and swimming pools

These can open with protective measures, taking account of public health advice, including social distancing.

If things move to Level 3 - inter-county sports/senior club championship allowed. [Only senior club championship and inter-county would mean a very limited amount of matches allowed - no divisional, intermediate, junior championships, no league games, no underage.]

Sports
Training

Outdoors: Non contact training only in pods of up to 15 (exemption for professional/elite/inter-county sports/senior club championship).

Indoors: Individual training only. No exercise or dance classes.

Matches and events

No matches or events to take place.

Exemption: professional/elite/inter-county/club championship/horse-racing can take place behind closed doors.

Gyms, leisure centres and swimming pools

Gyms/leisure centres/swimming pools open with protective measures, for individual training only.

These can open with protective measures, for individual training only.

If things get to Level 1

Sports
Training

Normal training sessions and games can take place indoors and outdoors with protective measures.

Matches and events

A maximum of 100 spectators can attend indoor matches or games.

A maximum of 200 spectators can attend outdoor matches or games.

Up to 500 spectators can attend outdoor stadia or other fixed outdoor venues with a minimum accredited capacity of 5,000.

For very large purpose built event facilities (for example: stadia, auditoriums, conference or event centres) specific guidance will be developed with the relevant sectors to take account of size and different conditions for events such as large national and international sporting events.

Gyms, leisure centres and swimming pools

These can open with protective measures, taking account of public health advice, including social distancing.

Looking at this I would interpret it as 200 total at level 2 and it will move to 200 spectators when/if things move to level 1.

kippy

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Pretty sure it's 200 spectators this time and not as previous

Link https://www.gaa.ie/news/200-spectators-permitted-to-attend-gaa-matches-at-large-venues/

Not how it is being interpreted locally. At least for that match over the next few days.

wirelessdude01

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Are you in Dublin?

Nope but in a county that has had relatively high numbers for the past week.

kippy

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

We have an underage final coming up in the near future. Have a panel of 29 training since January. 5 management.

Two parents per player is 58 plus players and management brings it up to 92. A few club officials makes up the allocated 100.

Yep. Similiar to that minor Final I mentioned earlier.

Boom__Boom

Level 4 means no matches. Limited training allowed.

Exercise and sporting events
Training

Outdoors: Non contact training can take place but only in pods of up to 15.

Indoors: Individual training only. No exercise or dance classes can take place.

Matches and events

No matches or events to take place.

Exemption: Professional and elite sport/inter-county/horse-racing can take place behind closed doors.

Gyms, leisure centres and swimming pools

Gyms/leisure centres/swimming pools closed.

Level 5 - individual training only

Exercise and sporting events
Training

Individual training only. No exercise or dance classes.

Matches and events

No matches or events to take place.

Gyms, leisure centres and swimming pools

Gyms/leisure centres/swimming pools closed.

wirelessdude01

kippy wrote: »

100 names to be submitted by the club generally.
This wouldn't generally include any people not a parent of a player or involved in management.
Minor Final coming up in next few days. 30 players. 2 parents per player and the coaches etc..that's the 100.
Maybe where parental involvement isn't as big a deal that will be different but it may be the players two guests that get the nod.


This stuff is damn near impossible to organise/police for most clubs.

Players and management really shouldn't be included in the 100. Silly.

mountgomery burns

Depends when your games are on, logistically this week it might be hard to alter plans but county boards will get a communication from HQ most likely tomorrow clarifying it's 200 for spectators everywhere outside Dublin.

Always_Running

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Players and management really shouldn't be included in the 100. Silly.

They won't be. It's 200 spectators.

arctictree

Boom__Boom wrote: »

This is for level 2



If things move to Level 3 - inter-county sports/senior club championship allowed. [Only senior club championship and inter-county would mean a very limited amount of matches allowed - no divisional, intermediate, junior championships, no league games, no underage.]

From my reading of it, at level 3, club championship IS allowed, at any level. Training is limited to senior teams only.

PTH2009

how many of the league football matches are essentially dead rubbers and are just acting as practice games for the championships

CrabRevolution

PTH2009 wrote: »

how many of the league football matches are essentially dead rubbers and are just acting as practice games for the championships

Very few I'd imagine. Other than Meath's relegation from Div 1 no other promotions or relegations have been decided yet.

Only 3 points separate 1st and 7th in Div 2 so a lot to play for there. Cork are running away with Div 3 but only 2 points separate the next 4 teams to get the 2nd promotion spot. Only 2 points between 1st and 5th in Div 4 too.

wirelessdude01

Am I right in thinking that if someone has been tested due to being a close contact of a positive case that even with a negative test result they still have to isolate for 14 days from last contact with the positive case?

In a case like this is there a case for having a championship final delayed due to a player(s) being unavailable?

dobman88

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that if someone has been tested due to being a close contact of a positive case that even with a negative test result they still have to isolate for 14 days from last contact with the positive case?

In a case like this is there a case for having a championship final delayed due to a player(s) being unavailable?

They dont have to. It's only a recommendation. And it's gone down to 10 days from 14 after yesterdays announcements.

I dont think it would/should affect the game being played. 1 player missing shouldnt mean its put off.

Bonniedog

If they up the restrictions on Dublin tomorrow. that's the end of the county championships. Seriously cannot see how GAA is going to organise inter county with all of this going on. When they are setting the bar at 0.1% of population contracting a virus that has very low mortality rate, it is difficult to see an end to it.

seligehgit

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that if someone has been tested due to being a close contact of a positive case that even with a negative test result they still have to isolate for 14 days from last contact with the positive case?

In a case like this is there a case for having a championship final delayed due to a player(s) being unavailable?

It appears you are expected to restrict your movements for 14/10 days from the date of contact with the individual with a positive Covid 19 diagnosis as it can take a fortnight for the virus to show up in your system post exposure.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html

manofwisdom

Bonniedog wrote: »

If they up the restrictions on Dublin tomorrow. that's the end of the county championships. Seriously cannot see how GAA is going to organise inter county with all of this going on. When they are setting the bar at 0.1% of population contracting a virus that has very low mortality rate, it is difficult to see an end to it.

Extra restrictions has to be added to Dublin for at least 2 weeks. Should have been done already. The longer that Dublin isn't placed in level 3 the more likely cases will increase elsewhere. Inter county championship won't only be at end but we'll be back to the situation in April.

If the minister for health had to act last Thursday when he got the letter may be things would not be getting as bad as they are now.

Bonniedog

Bonniedog wrote: »

If they up the restrictions on Dublin tomorrow. that's the end of the county championships. Seriously cannot see how GAA is going to organise inter county with all of this going on. When they are setting the bar at 0.1% of population contracting a virus that has very low mortality rate, it is difficult to see an end to it.

It looks like the ignorance of some people it will be difficult to see the end of this pandemic.

Bonniedog

Fred Daly wrote: »

It looks like the ignorance of some people it will be difficult to see the end of this pandemic.

Is this English?

castletownman

God forbid moving Dublin out of Croke Park in a once-off year.