Championship and Covid

mountgomery burns

Would somebody tell the Government we have unearthed a medical professional here and are finally in a position to be led out of this crisis

Fr Tod Umptious

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

It doesnt necessarily have to be a championship in October. Finish the league instead to give some much needed matches to everybody. A league final under lights in November could be brilliant. Then back in January for a fresh start for everything in 2021!

You just want the league to finish because

A. Galway have a good chance of winning it.
B. Galway can actually end Mayo's 20+ year stay in Div 1
C. If it's not finished Mayo remain league champions.



I'm just joking, but that is the kind of s**te talk that you get from the clowns on the soccer thread when it comes to Liverpool and Manchester United that managed to get the soccer forms COVID19 thread closed.

RedDevil55

BloodyBill wrote: »

The GAA are going to regret their decision. Association football will be back all over the world (behind closed doors). The Germans lead the way. Rugby expect to be back playing...and that's club rugby. The GAA think they are some sort of 'game of the peope' yet are ducking out of playing. I dont care if they are amature. Get a good testing process going and play on.Its ludicrous and cowardly to think theyve ruled out sport in June,July ,Aug and Sept. This Covid will be around for years.. are they going to write off 2021. I'm a medical professional. If your not fat or have multiple co morbidities ,the chances of you dying are very very slim.

Intercounty competitions are off until at least October but the plan is to play club fixtures in July/August/September. Who knows if that will be possible of course. The GAA needed to give some clarity around intercounty and not keep pushing the start date a few weeks down the road.

As others have said, there's no comparison to professional football around Europe. All those leagues have to start a new season by the end of August so they're running out of time to finish the current ones. They also have to deal with players becoming free agents on July 1st.

Rasputin11

https://twitter.com/RTEsport/status/1259015247073067009?s=19

This is beautifully done...wipes tear from eye.

They love a slowed down version of a song. I quite like Bell X1 too so I wished they’d be above it.

agfasfos

Rasputin11 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RTEsport/status/1259015247073067009?s=19

This is beautifully done...wipes tear from eye.

It's great, brings home what we're going to miss this summer. RTE did a fantastic promo for Galway V Waterford in the hurling final a few years back, another great one, Iv'e tried to locate it on YouTube,no joy. If anyone can find the link it would be great to see it again.

xredmanlfcx

Rasputin11 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RTEsport/status/1259015247073067009?s=19

This is beautifully done...wipes tear from eye.

Great video, thanks for sharing.

xredmanlfcx

agfasfos wrote: »

It's great, brings home what we're going to miss this summer. RTE did a fantastic promo for Galway V Waterford in the hurling final a few years back, another great one, Iv'e tried to locate it on YouTube,no joy. If anyone can find the link it would be great to see it again.

Can't load the tweet from the 42.ie page, but the video is watchable from this link:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the42.ie/all-ireland-senior-hurling-championship-final-croke-park-waterford-galway-3579038-Sep2017/%3famp=1

EDIT: You can access the tweet on Twitter from the desktop link of 42's article:

https://www.the42.ie/all-ireland-senior-hurling-championship-final-croke-park-waterford-galway-3579038-Sep2017/

https://twitter.com/rtesport/status/904096370432331776?s=21

PTH2009

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtesport/status/904096370432331776?s=21

Feckers That loss still hurts

Could they not show any of the other finals ha

agfasfos

Thanks for locating the hurling promo folks, RTE do great promos alright, I think this one is my favourite.

Always_Running

BloodyBill wrote: »

I'm a medical professional.

Realt Dearg Sec

PTH2009 wrote: »

Feckers That loss still hurts

Could they not show any of the other finals ha

2008?

PTH2009

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

2008?

that final got abandoned before throw in for mysterious reasons and Kilkenny were awarded the title cause they had a better score in the AI semi final :D:D

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

that final got abandoned before throw in for mysterious reasons and Kilkenny were awarded the title cause they had a better score in the AI semi final :D:D

That was over when the Waterford lads failed to take out Tommy Walsh, Eddie Brennan before the throw in.

Coillte_Bhoy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

What a stupid post.

Doesn't matter how got or healthy a player is, having them playing GAA gives them plenty of opportunity to transmit the infection to their families or work place.

All this talk of Assocation Football coming back is just that, talk.

Assocation Football, in England, anyway is fcuked, it has been a bubble for 30 years and now it's burst, soccer teams cannot afford to keep paying huge salaries while playing behind closed doors and covering the cost of testing etc, and Sky etc are not going to pay huge money for rights for games behind closed doors that will bore the hole off you.

The GAA will be fine, it will come out of this stronger, but it's time to write off any meaningful competition in 2020

Ah here can we not call it soccer like everyone else, well in this country anyway Thing is though re the EPL, its a business, its driven by TV money and id imagine the actual match day revenue from fans through the gates isnt a huge % of their income whereas in Scotland or the lower leagues in England for example it would be

Fr Tod Umptious

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Ah here can we not call it soccer like everyone else, well in this country anyway Thing is though re the EPL, its a business, its driven by TV money and id imagine the actual match day revenue from fans through the gates isnt a huge % of their income whereas in Scotland or the lower leagues in England for example it would be

I called it Association Football just to humour the poster I was quoting, I'd usually call it soccer.

Without dragging this thread off topic here is why I think soccer as we know it including the EPL is frigged and the GAA will be fine.

Players are assets, they need to generate revenue.
As long as games are not being played you are not generating any revenue and still paying for the assets.

Most EPL teams cannot sustain that.
John Henry for example has two major teams on two sides of the Atlantic costing him huge money and generating no revenue.

Sure big teams rely less on game day revenue than smaller clubs but they rely heavily on merchandise and TV rights.

If there is a world wide recession then merchandise sales and TV subscription ate all going down.
So the value of the TV rights will be less because people can't afford the subscription like they did and also the behind closed doors TV experience is not going to be the same as what people were used to before, only the hardcore will be as engaged as previously.

And of all revenue from merchandise and TV drop, and the owners are having trouble with their other businesses, and of the cost of running the club go up (socal distancing, testing etc) then they will not be as willing to fork out big money on players.

The value of players will be reduced.

The likes of Man City may be able to weather the storm, but that's about it, many other EPL teams will not.

It will be a very different soccer landscape in a few years.

As for the GAA, of course they are taking a hit, but the fact that they are no paying for players makes their predicament much better
Same goes for semi-pro/amateur LOI clubs and similar in the UK

gormdubhgorm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They love a slowed down version of a song. I quite like Bell X1 too so I wished they’d be above it.

I never liked BellX1 always seem very bland to me and take the "omph" out of songs.

Not a patch on the original by Don Henley

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Anyway I have been watching a fair bit of old GAA stuff on you tube (like most I assume).

Found this great two-parter all about the history of Galway football.

Four hours long in total!

It must have been done about 20 years ago Michael Lyster narrating. Lots of info in it. Old clips plenty of reminiscing from players. And sure that is all we can do now anyway, until the players are allowed back on the grass.

signostic

Bundesliga restart blow after entire Dynamo Dresden team quarantined

The Guardian

Substitute the sport for any other sport, the league for any other league, the club for any other club or county and the players for any other players...that's where its at with this virus...

blowitupref

All the games that could have went ahead this weekend

Munster SFC quarter-finals

Waterford v Limerick
Tipperary v Clare

Leinster SFC Rd 1

Louth v Longford
Wexford v Wicklow
Carlow v Offaly

Connacht SFC quarter-final
Leitrim v Mayo

Ulster SFC preliminary rd

Monaghan v Cavan.

.Leinster SHC Rd 1: Dublin v Kilkenny, Laois v Galway.

Munster SHC Rd 1: Cork v Limerick, Waterford v Tipperary.

Joe McDonagh Cup, Rd 1:
Antrim v Westmeath, Kerry v Meath

Christy Ring Cup, Rd 1 (Group 1): Offaly v Derry, Sligo v Wicklow; (Group 2): Roscommon v Kildare, Down v London.

Chalk McHugh

blowitupref wrote: »

All the games that could have went ahead this weekend

Munster SFC quarter-finals

Waterford v Limerick
Tipperary v Clare

Leinster SFC Rd 1

Louth v Longford
Wexford v Wicklow
Carlow v Offaly

Connacht SFC quarter-final
Leitrim v Mayo

Ulster SFC preliminary rd

Monaghan v Cavan.

.Leinster SHC Rd 1: Dublin v Kilkenny, Laois v Galway.

Munster SHC Rd 1: Cork v Limerick, Waterford v Tipperary.

Joe McDonagh Cup, Rd 1:
Antrim v Westmeath, Kerry v Meath

Christy Ring Cup, Rd 1 (Group 1): Offaly v Derry, Sligo v Wicklow; (Group 2): Roscommon v Kildare, Down v London.

Thanks. That's really cheered me up over my Sunday dinner of beans and toast.

gormdubhgorm

blowitupref wrote: »

All the games that could have went ahead this weekend

Munster SFC quarter-finals

Waterford v Limerick
Tipperary v Clare

Leinster SFC Rd 1

Louth v Longford
Wexford v Wicklow
Carlow v Offaly

Connacht SFC quarter-final
Leitrim v Mayo

Ulster SFC preliminary rd

Monaghan v Cavan.

.Leinster SHC Rd 1: Dublin v Kilkenny, Laois v Galway.

Munster SHC Rd 1: Cork v Limerick, Waterford v Tipperary.

Joe McDonagh Cup, Rd 1:
Antrim v Westmeath, Kerry v Meath

Christy Ring Cup, Rd 1 (Group 1): Offaly v Derry, Sligo v Wicklow; (Group 2): Roscommon v Kildare, Down v London.

Monaghan v Cavan would have been the only one from the football worth watching for the neutral - at a push. Some great hurling games though.
I would have said the live games would have been the Munster ones.

It is a stark reminder of the silly structure of the championship.

zetecescort

John Horan on the Sunday game ruling out games as long as there is social distancing. No games behind closed doors either, if its safe enough for contact sport it should be safe for reduced crowds

giveitholly

Listening to John Horan on TSG and there will be no GAA either club or county this year while social distancing is a requirement

KevIRL

zetecescort wrote: »

John Horan on the Sunday game ruling out games as long as there is social distancing. No games behind closed doors either, if its safe enough for contact sport it should be safe for reduced crowds

He spoke very very well. Hats off to him and the organisation

Very firm on it, speaking a lot of sense.

robbiezero

KevIRL wrote: »

He spoke very very well. Hats off to him and the organisation

Yep. Our politicians could learn a bit from him. Thats what a bit of leadership looks like, even when providing bad news.

dobman88

Great to see. Hopefully put the nonsesne spouted in this thread to bed now. Could never expect lads to play if it's not safe for people to be in close contact

Quantum Erasure

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Very firm on it, speaking a lot of sense.

what he didn't say was what he meant, which was there'll be no games on until we can get the crowds in through the gate

robbiezero

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

what he didn't say was what he meant, which was there'll be no games on until we can get the crowds in through the gate

Was very clear to me, that the safety aspect was the big issue for him and that the GAA would not be a factor in anyone dying from Covid.
But then I am unable to read his mind unlike you.

RedDevil55

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

what he didn't say was what he meant, which was there'll be no games on until we can get the crowds in through the gate

Why would he want to start with club games if getting crowds through the gate is the main objective?

Haven't always been a fan of John Horan but he was pretty clear. If it's not safe for a crowd at the game, it's obviously not safe for players.

Kerrydude1981

I was thankful last night that John Horan said what he did,

Its just not possible to train and get teams ready using social distancing, its too much of a risk for everyone involved, as he said last night the last thing we want is a club to become a cluster

Id love to see the games back but we cannot rush this

gormdubhgorm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

I was thankful last night that John Horan said what he did,

Its just not possible to train and get teams ready using social distancing, its too much of a risk for everyone involved, as he said last night the last thing we want is a club to become a cluster

Id love to see the games back but we cannot rush this

It would be ideal if the games were brought back after Clifford decides to hang up his boots. Just to be on the safe side.

Kerrydude1981

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It would be ideal if the games were brought back after Clifford decides to hang up his boots. Just to be on the safe side.

:D

Say Your Number

Yesterday just felt weird, I'll never give out about a grim Armagh 0-9 Fermanagh 0-7 type game again.

BonnieSituation

Say Your Number wrote: »

Yesterday just felt weird, I'll never give out about a grim Armagh 0-9 Fermanagh 0-7 type game again.

Unike me, you obviously weren't at this 0-12 0-07 so...

https://www.rte.ie/amp/964682/

pgj2015

is it just inter county football that wont be played until October or is club football included?

Kerrydude1981

A Club Players Association survey has shown that over a fifth of GAA players are unwilling to return to training before a Covid-19 vaccine is found.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0511/1137733-cpa-survey-players-concerned-about-pre-vaccine-return/

RedDevil55

pgj2015 wrote: »

is it just inter county football that wont be played until October or is club football included?

Club football will resume on 20th July according to the current plans. Although players will probably want 3 or 4 weeks training before a game.

pgj2015

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Club football will resume on 20th July according to the current plans. Although players will probably want 3 or 4 weeks training before a game.

im training myself the last 6 weeks. most players should be before they go back playing.

poppers

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

A Club Players Association survey has shown that over a fifth of GAA players are unwilling to return to training before a Covid-19 vaccine is found.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0511/1137733-cpa-survey-players-concerned-about-pre-vaccine-return/

So no football for them next season either.

pgj2015

poppers wrote: »

So no football for them next season either.

They may never play again.

CrabRevolution

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Club football will resume on 20th July according to the current plans. Although players will probably want 3 or 4 weeks training before a game.

Do you mean the GAA's plans or just the government roadmap? Just because they're no longer barred on the 20th of July doesn't mean the GAA are certain to resume playing that day.

PlayByTheRules

giveitholly wrote: »

Listening to John Horan on TSG and there will be no GAA either club or county this year while social distancing is a requirement

Social Distancing will not be a requirement in a few months time thankfully if we keep going in the right direction with the number of cases decreasing as they are. We must stay the course to get our wonderful games back.

We never benefited initially as an island nation but I feel once we get the cases down to near zero and borders and travel remain locked down we will start to benefit.

The final piece of the puzzle for a full return to club GAA IMO is a rapid testing capability that way any remaining cases / clusters can be traced and dealt with very quickly.

Loafing Oaf

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

Social Distancing will not be a requirement in a few months time thankfully

We'll see...

Fr Tod Umptious

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

Social Distancing will not be a requirement in a few months time thankfully if we keep going in the right direction with the number of cases decreasing as they are. We must stay the course to get our wonderful games back.

We never benefited initially as an island nation but I feel once we get the cases down to near zero and borders and travel remain locked down we will start to benefit.

The final piece of the puzzle for a full return to club GAA IMO is a rapid testing capability that way any remaining cases / clusters can be traced and dealt with very quickly.

Wishful thinking.

Social distancing is here for a while.

The GAA are not keen to go back training while social distancing is still a requirement.

I think John Horan summed it up very well on The Sunday Game, he said something like " if a cluster were to emerge from a GAA club it would be a very poor days work by the GAA".

pgj2015

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Wishful thinking.

Social distancing is here for a while.

The GAA are not keen to go back training while social distancing is still a requirement.

I think John Horan summed it up very well on The Sunday Game, he said something like " if a cluster were to emerge from a GAA club it would be a very poor days work by the GAA".

You could get it anywhere in fairness, if you got it in tesco would no one ever shop in tesco again?

Fr Tod Umptious

pgj2015 wrote: »

You could get it anywhere in fairness, if you got it in tesco would no one ever shop in tesco again?

A cluster, not an individual infection.

If a cluster develops Inna location and the source of it turns out to be the GAA club now that wouldn't be good now would it ?

pgj2015

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

A cluster, not an individual infection.

If a cluster develops Inna location and the source of it turns out to be the GAA club now that wouldn't be good now would it ?

To be honest with you, a cluster could come from a workplace, GAA club, a church etc it wouldn't make me judge a GAA club for it. it is important we get people back playing GAA for their own mental well being. we cant hide away from a virus forever, life must go on.

poppers

poppers wrote: »

So no football for them next season either.

*IF EVER!!!!!

(It’s obligatory at this stage).