How much do you miss the pub?

elperello

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

The clientele is always rank though, no matter what the building.

Seeing as they have over 800 pubs it's a fair guess that neither you nor I have visited them all.

I can readily accept that you may have hit a few duds as I have myself but to say the clientele in all of them is rank may be a bit harsh.

fin12

AUDI20 wrote: »

They are all closed due to some kind of pandemic

Very helpful and insightful post.

fin12

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

The clientele is always rank though, no matter what the building.

That’s so true, I really like the drink shipyard and they have it on tap in weatherspoons and it’s dirt cheep but there’s no way I could stick spending the night in there, literally have to leave after an hour or two just some amount of scumbags in there.

rob316

It's the only pub that needs doormen during the day. The one in cork is a kip.

PTH2009

going to miss it more when the inevitable delayed further announcement comes this week

Think its time to slowly open them back up with similar guidelines to whats there now. I don't mind having to stay at the table etc, Just the freedom of going in somewhere and have a few pints without food

We going to have to open them up at one point for economic purposes,

weldoninhio

Rothko wrote: »

Do you still feel that way?

Yes. We’ve 6 people in hospital with it. Out of a population of 5,500,000. We’ve flattened the curve like we were asked to. Now it’s on the govt and the HSE to carry out testing and contact tracing.

John O.Groats

PTH2009 wrote: »

going to miss it more when the inevitable delayed further announcement comes this week

Think its time to slowly open them back up with similar guidelines to whats there now. I don't mind having to stay at the table etc, Just the freedom of going in somewhere and have a few pints without food

We going to have to open them up at one point for economic purposes,

Well if it comes down to a choice of opening all pubs and not opening the schools as scheduled in a few weeks` time or the other way round which do you think is the more likely to happen?

PTH2009

John O.Groats wrote: »

Well if it comes down to a choice of opening all pubs and not opening the schools as scheduled in a few weeks` time or the other way round which do you think is the more likely to happen?

Its all speculation that parents will be dragging kids to pubs or some dirty drunk bastard is going to infect them shopping etc

The government should of came out and not give the 10th Aug date and should of just said 'pubs will be permitted open after the school's go back'

mountgomery burns

John O.Groats wrote: »

Well if it comes down to a choice of opening all pubs and not opening the schools as scheduled in a few weeks` time or the other way round which do you think is the more likely to happen?

I'm not a hard-line anti-lockdown advocate by any means, and there is a cohort that talk complete nonsense, but when I see people arguing with them they often point out instances where they move the goalposts.

What you've highlighted there is the government's ultimate play of moving the goalposts in a really cynical way to justify a decision that had become quite hard to justify.

Why did the first mention of that come the morning after they decided to defer phase 4, and not weeks beforehand? Why were the pubs not given any advance notice that this was likely a point that would be due serious consideration for those in charge? How come there was no either or decision between schools and any other industry (after all, the government nominated the dates of reopening on both the 30th April and revision on 5th June, where was the foresight then about how close to school openings it seemingly was?).

What level of suppression is enough to open them, and if there is none what is the plan long term?

If opening schools is as high a priority as they say (and it absolutely should be by the way), why did they make no real attempt to trial partial openings instead of everyone coming back together, as if it's a normal school year? And pushing the opening back three weeks to even close to September, where was the logic in that? Given we already had one of the lowest incidences in Europe, what were they expecting to change 3 weeks later?

What industry specific supports will they put in place for the few remaining sectors not yet open should they defer it again? Why has half an industry (those that sell food) been given a chance to show they can operate safely while the other hasn't?

Spanish Eyes

What is it now... five months or so since non food pubs have been opened. I think they are finished unless they have an outside NICE space even in Winter. It is done all over the cold areas of Northern Europe. Just need to diversify where possible.

The atmosphere of a crowded pub with live music is gone I think, but with a bit of imagination and outdoor space, some could survive.

There is no way on earth I would frequent a dark cave of a pub anymore, and I used to love em. Not now.

fin12

What’s the story with the pubs in Northern Ireland? Going to Derry end of the mouth, looks like they have the same rule for having a meal but haven’t seen anything about a time limit ? Can anyone confirm this?

PTH2009

Important day

Announcement coming this evening

hynesie08

Me nerves lads........ I'm going for a pint.....

stargazer 68

fin12 wrote: »

What’s the story with the pubs in Northern Ireland? Going to Derry end of the mouth, looks like they have the same rule for having a meal but haven’t seen anything about a time limit ? Can anyone confirm this?

90 minutes and that includes your hotel. Can take drinks to the room
However, as here, there are some places not sticking to that but you have to find them

DeanAustin

Seeing a lot of stuff being written about what a disgrace the government are for not opening the pubs. The inference seems to be some sort of conspiracy or vested interest on the government's behalf for not opening pubs. What on earth would the government have to gain by closing pubs?

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. If the open up with cases rising, then you'll have people saying "typical, the vintners have too much influence in this country". Thank God I'm not a politician.

I think what they've done so far has been reasonable. The €9 food rule makes sense to me although I hear loads complaining about it. Are the rules perfect? No but there isn't a perfect rule to manage this situation.

joeguevara

DeanAustin wrote: »

Seeing a lot of stuff being written about what a disgrace the government are for not opening the pubs. The inference seems to be some sort of conspiracy or vested interest on the government's behalf for not opening pubs. What on earth would the government have to gain by closing pubs?

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. If the open up with cases rising, then you'll have people saying "typical, the vintners have too much influence in this country". Thank God I'm not a politician.

I think what they've done so far has been reasonable. The €9 food rule makes sense to me although I hear loads complaining about it. Are the rules perfect? No but there isn't a perfect rule to manage this situation.

The inference from posters who have that opinion is that the government is implementing this policy as in their opinion pubs with the ability to serve food are some kind of superpub whose owners are in cahoots with the powers that be with a masterplan that causing the closure of a tiny pub in ballyedward will mean billions more for them to divvy up and not for the reasons that have been clearly outlined countless times. It usually is concluded with the hilarious quip 'this is the most intelligent virus of all time, it knows not to attack someone who is eating a lasagne while supping a pint'.

wadacrack

We need to think of the next generation in regards to this virus. Schools opening should be the priority. Opening a high risk setting like pubs now would make little sense and it would be highly likely that they would be closed within weeks due to clusters forming as seen in many other countries. Sadly the pubs may never return to what they were until elimination of the virus is even feasible. Theirs no silver bullet atm and I think its unlikely that pubs will be sustainable until their is a vaccine

DeanAustin

joeguevara wrote: »

The inference from posters who have that opinion is that the government is implementing this policy as in their opinion pubs with the ability to serve food are some kind of superpub whose owners are in cahoots with the powers that be with a masterplan that causing the closure of a tiny pub in ballyedward will mean billions more for them to divvy up and not for the reasons that have been clearly outlined countless times. It usually is concluded with the hilarious quip 'this is the most intelligent virus of all time, it knows not to attack someone who is eating a lasagne while supping a pint'.

I was out over the weekend for a mate's birthday and having food made a difference to how we drink and behave compared to normal. Obviously, the social distancing set-up in the pub also helped but, to me, there is sense in the food rule. The 90 minute one isn't being enforced though in the 2-3 times I've been in a pub. If it was, that'd make the rules even more likely to have the desired effect.

fin12

This was the snug pub thing that someone was on about before.

https://www.echolive.ie/corklives/Fancy-a-jar-in-a-pint-sized-bar-Cork-duo-invent-Snugpub-806a3a31-6432-47cd-80bb-c913b2efef56-ds

hetuzozaho

DeanAustin wrote: »

I was out over the weekend for a mate's birthday and having food made a difference to how we drink and behave compared to normal. Obviously, the social distancing set-up in the pub also helped but, to me, there is sense in the food rule. The 90 minute one isn't being enforced though in the 2-3 times I've been in a pub. If it was, that'd make the rules even more likely to have the desired effect.

Yep and also it's defo made a difference to the amount of people I would socialise with too.

Some circles of friends no interest in meeting with current meal setup. Ones that are we are meeting and staying in one place seated throughout with table service. No one calling by for a couple at different times. No heading on elsewhere to meet others who are out as the food is just too much No just even popping into a pub before you meet others in another pub later.

It's a slight difference that has caused quite a difference IMO!

Weekend plans would be very different if they do open up the pubs.

I say this as someone who loves pubs but I can defo see the difference and it's hard to recommended opening them, but I'll be delighted if they do

freak scence

wadacrack wrote: »

We need to think of the next generation in regards to this virus. Schools opening should be the priority. Opening a high risk setting like pubs now would make little sense and it would be highly likely that they would be closed within weeks due to clusters forming as seen in many other countries. Sadly the pubs may never return to what they were until elimination of the virus is even feasible. Theirs no silver bullet atm and I think its unlikely that pubs will be sustainable until their is a vaccine

makes little sense sending 1m kids back to school all at once too

weldoninhio

joeguevara wrote: »

The inference from posters who have that opinion is that the government is implementing this policy as in their opinion pubs with the ability to serve food are some kind of superpub whose owners are in cahoots with the powers that be with a masterplan that causing the closure of a tiny pub in ballyedward will mean billions more for them to divvy up and not for the reasons that have been clearly outlined countless times. It usually is concluded with the hilarious quip 'this is the most intelligent virus of all time, it knows not to attack someone who is eating a lasagne while supping a pint'.

Why can’t a non-food pub open with the exact same rules as food pubs? Exact same level of risk, minus the Covid repelling lasagne.

joeguevara

weldoninhio wrote: »

Why can’t a non-food pub open with the exact same rules as food pubs? Exact same level of risk, minus the Covid repelling lasagne.

Please see the answer to this countless times in this thread. Even do a search of my posts today to find the answer.

Don2012

The Government/media continuously blame Irish for everything. They are really doing a number on pubs, why are they keeping them closed still? Using the "rise" in the biggest farce in history as an excuse, yet 200 people can attend a festival in Croker and it's ok, protests by BLM and it's ok, airports never stop, no procedures in place either. Corrupt government bringing in more and more people to replace us since this all started, it's unbelievable and many are so naïve, they believe the media when they say we Irish are to blame.
This whole thing is out of hand, has always been about control.

IAMAMORON

The publicans will have to look at their pricing when they are eventually allowed open again. I have gotten used to drinking in fields now, I can score a gallon of cans for a tenner or thereabouts, I am having a night out for under 20 euro when I am hitting it. I am not paying for a meal just to go for pints, on principle alone.

Don2012

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The publicans will have to look at their pricing when they are eventually allowed open again. I have gotten used to drinking in fields now, I can score a gallon of cans for a tenner or thereabouts, I am having a night out for under 20 euro when I am hitting it. I am not paying for a meal just to go for pints, on principle alone.

Don't blame you, the €9 for food and a drink is ridiculous anyway, it's about control all the time. I find it odd that the pubs are being targeted, but some protests and 200 people (was 500) can enter Croker but the rest of us might as well stay at home because we are being blamed for "rise" in cases. I think they want us depressed and not able to enjoy ourselves or have a life. Hence the reason they are singling out pubs and house parties. People have stayed in for months and kept to their Draconian laws, I think it's time they gave us back our freedom!!

saabsaab

These could be worn in pubs.

Drifter50

This is just rubbish, sickening really

Its nothing to do with Covid 19 and the pubs now its more a social engineering opportunity to close as many pubs as they can and turn them into cafes

I`m really disappointed this evening

MonkstownHoop

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The publicans will have to look at their pricing when they are eventually allowed open again. I have gotten used to drinking in fields now, I can score a gallon of cans for a tenner or thereabouts, I am having a night out for under 20 euro when I am hitting it. I am not paying for a meal just to go for pints, on principle alone.

Good luck to you in Winter :pac:

saabsaab

It may have to do with the actions of some pubs and areas where no responsibility was shown. We know who they are..