How much do you miss the pub?

Poorside

If they don't open the pubs, can they realistically keep the gastropubs and restaurants open? Having a bit of food on the table doesn't suddenly make the virus dodge around you.

Sam Hain

Andrew00 wrote: »

The under 25s and their houses parties drinking and riding the holes of eachother was always gonna spread the virus unfortunately

If only they had invited some girls

maherhonda

statesaver wrote: »

Yes, because the pub will not want to lose their licence and be front page news.

Do you think country pubs honestly give a flying feck about that?

The local gaurd is not going to do ya.

weldoninhio

maherhonda wrote: »

Its hard to mantain social distancing after a few pints.

Sure look if sports and training is back, Hair saloons back open, people back in offices, Gyms etc. You can't just pick on people going to the pub.

If bar owners are repsonsible I don't see any issues. Some are going to take the piss just like having a house party with 100 people.

I'm not certain about nightclubs though. Are only 50 meant to be aloud in?

Why is it hard to maintain social distance after a few pints? I’ve been drinking in pubs from the age of 16, I’m 38 on Tuesday. I’ve no recollection of suddenly having the urge to hang out of someone after a few pints. I’d normally sit at the bar, have a few pints and have the craic with others sitting around the bar. If I tried hugging or grabbing at them I’d probably get a hook.

statesaver

maherhonda wrote: »

Do you think country pubs honestly give a flying feck about that?

The local gaurd is not going to do ya.

Yes I do. Because the owners of country pubs have families too and bar staff ( and their families ) that need to be protected.

stephenjmcd

Pubs expected to be given the go ahead and the signals from Varadkar this evening is they will be. Nightclubs rightly to stay shut, just not possible for them to open.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1283121930980163584?s=19

murpho999

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

People will just have to cop on, if i told you in January that you'd soon be queing up for a supermarket you'd have said thats not realistic

I agree 100% but people are generally sober and alone when queuing for the supermarket.

maherhonda

statesaver wrote: »

Yes I do. Because the owners of country pubs have families too and bar staff ( and their families ) that need to be protected.

If a lad gets a bit messy then they might have a word with them to quieten them and to sit down, but kicking them out before they had there full fill is not going to happen, especially for a regular.

Beanybabog

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

statesaver

maherhonda wrote: »

If a lad gets a bit messy then they might have a word with them to quieten them and to sit down, but kicking them out before they had there full fill is not going to happen, especially for a regular.

I don't think publicans will have any patience for shiit acting like that anymore nor will customers.

We'll just have to see what happens.

saabsaab

maherhonda wrote: »

If a lad gets a bit messy then they might have a word with them to quieten them and to sit down, but kicking them out before they had there full fill is not going to happen, especially for a regular.

Don't know about that in some pubs anyway. I'd be asked to go quietly even when I wasn't finished, as a regular. Not often mind.

andrew1977

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

I’d have told them to keep it . I’ll not set foot in a pub if price gouging happens , and I love a few pints as much as the next man .
No problem with an extra few cent but that’s scandalous for a pint , hotel or not .

Laphroaig52

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

:eek:

Hope she was worth it....

Dickie10

pubs will open monday, leo varadker came out and tweeted about an hour ago, cases dont justfiy not going ahead as planned with phase 4. theres serious heat on the government about people coming into the country from USA and UK, theres no chance they can let that happen and at the same time kepp cinemas and pubs shut. if borders had been shut and there wasnt so much heat after coming on them over foregin travel then it would be 50-50 over pubs open but 90% of pubs have opened responsibly 3 weeks ago, they have that from GARDA stats so that will be enough. you cant destroy a sector because of 10% bad apples

freak scence

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

what hotel and you were a mug to pay that . ? more rip off ireland gash

fin12

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

Hotel prices have gone through the roof aswell, some hotels in Dingle charging 200 to 250 a night.

PTH2009

fin12 wrote: »

Hotel prices have gone through the roof aswell, some hotels in Dingle charging 200 to 250 a night.

Jesus that's Dublin concert night level Insane prices

fin12

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jesus that's Dublin concert night level Insane prices

I know it’s crazy, even noticed it in other towns and cities, anyway I was very lucky after ringing around got myself an affordable bnb.

Geuze

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

While in the UK, some pubs have cut prices in response to the crisis.

Ireland is the land of high costs, high prices, and high profits.

Cant wait for the pubs to reopen up next week. It will 2 fingers up to the clowns who never wanted to see them reopen. Myself and my mates have organised to meet up Friday week in our local for a few pints. Havent had pints with most of them since christmas

MadYaker

We should get word one way or another this evening. I’m not hopeful. 2 week delay I think.

El Weirdo

MadYaker wrote: »

We should get word one way or another this evening. I’m not hopeful. 2 week delay I think.

I hope not as I can't afford for them to be closed much longer. Need to get back to work.

ShyMets

My gut feeling is that Pubs will get the green light to reopen with the current guidelines in place, with perhaps an odd tweak here and there.

But as a compromise clubs remain closed and indoor gatherings remain at 100

Strumms

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

I’ve never even been charged close to those prices in the south of France, Monte Carlo included, most I paid for a beer was 7 euros there.... I just wouldn’t be paying it here...stay at home and Fûck them...

A lot of publicans are a greedy fückin mob.

stephenjmcd

ShyMets wrote: »

My gut feeling is that Pubs will get the green light to reopen with the current guidelines in place, with perhaps an odd tweak here and there.

But as a compromise clubs remain closed and indoor gatherings remain at 100

Not sure how clubs were even put into the same bracket as pubs in terms of reopening. Complete non runner to start with

stephenjmcd

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went to a hotel a few days ago and was charged €8.70 for a pint and €18.50 for a cocktail. I know it’s not a pub but I’ve read here about prices being upped in pubs too- I can see why young people have house parties.

Jesus thats worse than temple bar prices

pauliebdub

I suspect that the pub openings will be put off until after the August bank holiday weekend - the scenes in Dame Lame last weekend created fear that people will go mad and that pubs will be packed.

Strumms

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure how clubs were even put into the same bracket as pubs in terms of reopening. Complete non runner to start with

They were put in the same bracket, not to facilitate the customer, but to facilitate the club owners. The very nature of clubs.. a shît load of people together, dancing or socializing, in close proximity to one another in mostly poorly ventilated establishments... alcohol, ‘some’ more illegal substances which will and can alter decision making and behavior... hmm

Tenzor07

Strumms wrote: »

a shît load of people together, dancing or socializing, in close proximity to one another in mostly poorly ventilated establishments... alcohol, ‘some’ more illegal substances which will and can alter decision making and behavior... hmm

So basically house parties, just with a trading/alcohol license....

stephenjmcd

pauliebdub wrote: »

I suspect that the pub openings will be put off until after the August bank holiday weekend - the scenes in Dame Lame last weekend created fear that people will go mad and that pubs will be packed.

2 weeks ago nearly that is, wasn't repeated at the weekend and was largely down to bags of cans.

Places will be busy first weekend back, busy to their new capacity, its inevitable.

Can't keep putting it off on the fear that people will go mad. They'll be busy to their new allowed capacity and if theres no room then you won't be getting in, as is the case now, table service only etc just remove the food requirement basically.

Longer you keep them closed the more house parties pop up

stephenjmcd

Strumms wrote: »

They were put in the same bracket, not to facilitate the customer, but to facilitate the club owners. The very nature of clubs.. a shît load of people together, dancing or socializing, in close proximity to one another in mostly poorly ventilated establishments... alcohol, ‘some’ more illegal substances which will and can alter decision making and behavior... hmm

not sure how that facilitates club owners either. They were never going to open at the same time as pubs

forumdedum

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

A perfectly vaild option for anyone. However we cannot have everyone hiding at home indefinitely as the consequences for that would almost be as severe.

I agree

Dickie10

legally though they will get very hard to keep nightclubs closed too long , you couldnt possibly single them out when they are not even open, they could definitly argue they are the same as swimming pools and gyms by their nature.

kenmm

Dickie10 wrote: »

legally though they will get very hard to keep nightclubs closed too long , you couldnt possibly single them out when they are not even open, they could definitly argue they are the same as swimming pools and gyms by their nature.

Different sorta drugs in the gym - a lot less hugging for starters

Strumms

stephenjmcd wrote: »

not sure how that facilitates club owners either. They were never going to open at the same time as pubs

Possibly but ‘Give Us The Night‘ a lobby group now representing the nightclubs are actually actively pushing for reopening... ‘give us the night’..aka ‘give us money’...

PTH2009

Strumms wrote: »

Possibly but ‘Give Us The Night‘ a lobby group now representing the nightclubs are actually actively pushing for reopening... ‘give us the night’..aka ‘give us money’...

thats cringy as **** and pretty reminiscent of these 'lockdown lobby groups on facebook

kenmm wrote: »

Different sorta drugs in the gym - a lot less hugging for starters

depends what type of gym :D, MMA and places like that aren't exactly social distancing

stephenjmcd

PTH2009 wrote: »

thats cringy as **** and pretty reminiscent of these 'lockdown lobby groups on facebook



depends what type of gym :D, MMA and places like that aren't exactly social distancing

Give us the night have been around years looking for license reform for the industry, so in that not everywhere closes at one go at say 2.30am. Move towards a European model of longer late licences which means come closing you don't have hundreds spilling onto the street in one go.

The process and fees to get a late licence are also staggering.

The closure last few months they saw as an opportunity to bring the discussion on reform back into debate again as it was something mentioned in the recent programme for government around licence reform.

kenmm

PTH2009 wrote: »

thats cringy as **** and pretty reminiscent of these 'lockdown lobby groups on facebook



depends what type of gym :D, MMA and places like that aren't exactly social distancing

But they are not taking truckloads of pills? Or are they? I thought it was just wrestling moves.. maybe there is more to it!

MadYaker

Give Us The Night have been pushing for reform of the licensing laws here for years now.

Dickie10

there would defo be grounds for legal cases if they go ahead and open pubs, casinos and gyms without nightclubs. gyms loads of sweaty people walking and running in enclosed space, nightclub owners would point to better ventilation and lower capacity for their premises. i cant see them being closed more than 2 weeks longer than pubs. for a start their usually bigger and higher ceiling than pubs. if regular indoor sports like basketball, wrestling, boxing get the green light soon, the "sport" of dancing or disco dancing cant be told they cant do it either. would alchol free nightclubs be allowed i wonder?

iebamm2580

people saying put off until august bank holiday, what difference is 2 weeks going to make, we are still going to have cases in 2 weeks and 2 months maybe 2 years ffs. We have to learn to live with this for the foreseeable, cases are always going to edge up upon reopening of anything.

Spanish Eyes

Well I heard earlier that whatever decision is made most of Temple Bar pubs will remain closed anyway.
No tourists.
Dubs wouldn’t go there in a fit.

is_that_so

iebamm2580 wrote: »

people saying put off until august bank holiday, what difference is 2 weeks going to make, we are still going to have cases in 2 weeks and 2 months maybe 2 years ffs. We have to learn to live with this for the foreseeable, cases are always going to edge up upon reopening of anything.

It's the risk of the behaviour of the "young people"! Someone made the point that pubs might reduce the number of house parties. I think they want to open but it might be a phased thing. On balance this seems to be the old "we're not there yet today" message in advance of a new phase. Lower numbers for the rest of the week and no new clusters may tip the balance.

Strumms

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Well I heard earlier that whatever decision is made most of Temple Bar pubs will remain closed anyway.
No tourists.
Dubs wouldn’t go there in a fit.

Yes, the only Dubs there really are people say strong armed into bringing in friends or family who are visiting, I wouldn’t exactly be feeling that sorry for them... give your local the trade when you can instead of some rip off 7 euros a pint rip off merchant, who no doubt won’t be arsed about ensuring distancing, just about packed pubs and packed tills...

iebamm2580

is_that_so wrote: »

It's the risk of the behaviour of the "young people"! Someone made the point that pubs might reduce the number of house parties. I think they want to open but it might be a phased thing. On balance this seems to be the old "we're not there yet today" message in advance of a new phase. Lower numbers for the rest of the week and no new clusters may tip the balance.

young people will behave the same way whenever they open, at least in a pub some social distancing will be observed or encouraged.

stargazer 68

is_that_so wrote: »

It's the risk of the behaviour of the "young people"! Someone made the point that pubs might reduce the number of house parties. .

Im not convinced - young or old. I think a lot of people have realised that eating and drinking out is not all its cracked up to be! We have been making better meals at home than we have had out. Its cheaper to have a house party and less inconvenient. Can't book a table for more than 6 people, can only stay 105 minutes and then can't go to a pub for a few beers after dinner - so have a party at home and problem solved!

mountgomery burns

is_that_so wrote: »

It's the risk of the behaviour of the "young people"! Someone made the point that pubs might reduce the number of house parties. I think they want to open but it might be a phased thing. On balance this seems to be the old "we're not there yet today" message in advance of a new phase. Lower numbers for the rest of the week and no new clusters may tip the balance.

Hmmm, phased as in a 5 phase plan drafted on 30th of April and brought forward based on exceptional progress compared to European counterparts, where incidence is now amongst the lowest in the bloc...therefore enabling the resumption of business.

That sort of phased approach? Other poster is right delaying it makes no sense, we will have cases either way.

I was sitting in a pub at lunchtime (just eating not drinking) reading about it being potentially delayed and thinking how daft this paradox is, not too mention it must be open to serious legal challenges at this point. If you tried to explain it to somebody from a different Country they would be completely bewildered.

Looking like it might be Aug 10th hopefully. Some sense for once if it happens. Would be great news for us all to see it pushed back.

Gods Gift

FFS.

AdamD

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Looking like it might be Aug 10th hopefully. Some sense for once if it happens. Would be great news for us all to see it pushed back.

But pubs are open, you realise that right? This just keeps the bizarrely arbitrary €9 food rule. It just unfairly punishes pubs that can't serve food whilst not actually solving any issues.