CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

Thelonious Monk

polesheep wrote: »

That's brilliant news.

Can someone explain what this transmission thing means?

Shn99

Very alarming figures, by the sounds of it we might be dealing with these restrictions for many months. As a LC student all this uncertainty is very worrying

KindOfIrish

Longing wrote: »

Some posters here should be ashamed of themselves. Saying death figures are not bad. One death is bad.

1 million or so people die every day for the past 100 years. Just think about it

is_that_so

keynes wrote: »

A complete joke statistic given we have no idea how many are infected. Another useless "expert", this Nolan, who has already embarrassed himself with his 15000 March stat

He's running the modelling team. I'd suggest you read why that 15000 is now not relevant as this post shows quite a level of ignorance.

normanoffside

Ace2007 wrote: »

For those who don't understand the median number - below examples might help

91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 90 86 85 84 70 65 60 55 50 45 40 40 38 35 33 32 31

The medium in the above list of numbers is 84, the average is 69.

The medium in the below list of numbers is 84, the average is 86.

91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 90 86 85 84 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83

Median is an Average.
Mean is also an Average

take everything

keynes wrote: »

A complete joke statistic given we have no idea how many are infected. Another useless "expert", this Nolan, who has already embarrassed himself with his 15000 March stat

Are you saying that we have no way of knowing if the hospital system here would have been overwhelmed if we took no mitigation measures since we don't know the true number of people infected (asymptomatic and symptomatic).

Have you seen Italy and New York.

callaway92

Shn99 wrote: »

Very alarming figures, by the sounds of it we might be dealing with these restrictions for many months. As a LC student all this uncertainty is very worrying

I think it’s about time to start getting ready for Leaving Cert 2021

Beasty

facehugger99 wrote: »

I'll certainly continue to walk the footpaths with my family. Any numpty that wants a 2m separation is more than welcome to walk out into the road, with any luck a few will be mown down so we don't have to put up with their insufferably sh;te.

facehugger99 wrote: »

Zero risk, but Willie Whatsapp and Francis Facebook have decided they would like to live in a police state to feel safe.

facehugger99 wrote: »

Awww - thanks Bud.

Perhaps you could do a contrast and compare with your own boring posts of platitudes, conformities and inanities.

It'd be interesting;)

facehugger99 wrote: »

There should be no issue with people going to second homes and taking reasonable precautions.

This is a lot of envy on display. Most of us have worked hard for a holiday home and are entitled to enjoy it.

facehugger99 wrote: »

The death figures are the biggest con-job.

The vast majority of these people have just reached the end of their very long natural lifespans.

Do not post in this thread again

keynes

polesheep wrote: »

That's brilliant news.

wakka12 wrote: »

Personally I think 1 is alarmingly high considering the level of restrictions to normal life right now

Yeah, what would it be like if we weren't all locked up. Its really a meaningless statistic under these conditions. (I'm leaving aside the fact they have no way of nailing it down to the nice reportable figure of "1".)

stephenjmcd

Shn99 wrote: »

Very alarming figures, by the sounds of it we might be dealing with these restrictions for many months. As a LC student all this uncertainty is very worrying

We wont be, your lc might be moved a month say. But those figures are not alarming.

ICU numbers are very steady and haven't exploded up.

Stateofyou

facehugger99 wrote: »

I'm referring to the figures, not the deaths - but then again, I'd say you know that anyway.

Man what is wrong with you? They're not just figures, that's the point. They were people. You're losing your humanity on here, just stfu.

is_that_so

Longing wrote: »

Some posters here should be ashamed of themselves. Saying death figures are not bad. One death is bad.

And yet we can can do nothing at all about that 1 death or any other ones in this context.

This is it

Praise the Lord.

Ace2007

normanoffside wrote: »

Median is an Average.
Mean is also an Average

The median is the middle number not the average - this is very key and people need to understand that

ninebeanrows

Shn99 wrote: »

Very alarming figures, by the sounds of it we might be dealing with these restrictions for many months. As a LC student all this uncertainty is very worrying

?? We are expecting peak in next 5 days. Cases positive are irrelevant at present due to testing issues. We look at deaths. Hope peak arrives within 5 days and will see downward trend. Lockdown impact on death rate is about 3 to 4 week lag.

Wombatman

This is it wrote: »

Praise the Lord.

Hallelujah

Longing

KindOfIrish wrote: »

1 million or so people die every day for the past 100 years. Just think about it

And whats your point. Your 1 millions deaths are bad. Has is 28 today and there familys.

blackcard

I think that we are still 7 to 10 days away from the peak number of deaths, a bit frightening looking at the numbers for Belgium, hope that we don't get to that level.

kilkenny31

normanoffside wrote: »

Median is an Average.
Mean is also an Average

Median is not average. Median death rate is 84 today which means that roughly 14 of those that died were older than 84 and 14 were younger than 84.

EDit

Gael23 wrote: »

The R number and ICU admissions are the most important factors really

Agree about ICU admissions. However, the R number, while encouraging for the known patients, is somewhat redundant if we have no idea how many people have it (if we don’t know how many people have it, how can we know how many those people are infecting?)

Looptheloop30

Average types.

Mean

Median

Mode

keynes

is_that_so wrote: »

He's running the modelling team. I'd suggest you read why that 15000 is now not relevant as this post shows quite a level of ignorance.

He reported 15000 before which was a result of his flawed model of R_0. And now he's reporting a value of 1, yet he has no idea how many are infected, given the testing debacle. In any case, R_0 is only meaningful in a non-lockdown situation.

normanoffside

Ace2007 wrote: »

The median is the middle number not the average Mean- this is very key and people need to understand that

FYP
I know what Median is
But Median, Mean and Mode are all averages by definition.

ACitizenErased

George Lee is ridiculously depressing

NH2013

normanoffside wrote: »

Median is an Average.
Mean is also an Average

No, median is not an average.

Median is the middle value when all numbers are organised and sorted according to size. Median of 5,9,16 is 9.

Mean/Average is all the values added together and then divided by the total number of values counted. Mean/Average of 5,9,16 is 10.

This is primary school stuff.

*Clicks into main Covid thread for the first time in weeks*

*Sees trolls still thriving*

*Sees Beasty's latest post*

speckle

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Reproduction rate is close to 1 in Ireland

thats really important. we need to get that under. We can do it Stay home.

take everything

is_that_so wrote: »

He's running the modelling team. I'd suggest you read why that 15000 is now not relevant as this post shows quite a level of ignorance.

Posters like this don't seem to get it that it's only not 15000 because of the measures taken.

It's very hard to get that into their heads.
Instead they seem to have a "I told you so" condescension to the very guys who made the prediction that ensured the mitigation was put in place in the first place.

It's maddening. They just don't understand exponential growth or something

EDit

Do we really need a daily argument over the definition of median?

polesheep

EDit wrote: »

Agree about ICU admissions. However, the R number, while encouraging for the known patients, is somewhat redundant if we have no idea how many people have it (if we don’t know how many people have it, how can we know how many those people are infecting?)

It's still a very significant number. It tells us how many others a positive person will infect. If the Ro is 1, no matter how many people are positive, they can still only infect one each.