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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #722
    ihdxwz4a3pem9j
    Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    Apparently, Leo is back on the IMC register. Fair play!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-varadkar-returns-to-practising-medicine-to-help-during-crisis-1.4221463

    it makes me sort of proud, that our leader can actually stand among the frontline-workers, and contribute. It is a stark contrast to other worldwide leaders


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    #723
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    He definitely has.

    Here is one article out of 20 that shows up when you type in crohn's Simon harris

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/crohns-sufferer-simon-harris-hails-camera-that-can-be-swallowed-35063049.html

    Whoosh


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    #724
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,369 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    walshb wrote: »
    Not hindsight nonsense at all..

    You blaming him for not shutting down our airports?

    You can bet had he, there would be a group on slating him and others for this

    Cannot won with people...

    Btw, governments act on expert advice...no matter who is in power, they act on advice...

    Except trump of course.


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    #725
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    walshb wrote: »
    Not hindsight nonsense at all..

    You blaming him for not shutting down our airports?

    You can bet had he, there would be a group on slating him and others for this

    Cannot won with people...

    Btw, governments act on expert advice...no matter who is in power, they act on advice...
    Good leaders take advice from varied sources, weight it, and act decisively.

    Irish governments over recent decades have been slaves to Departmental 'advice' usually based on a 'no one has ever been fired for buying IBM' type of source, and then act indecisively when sufficient pressure is felt.

    The current caretaker government is no exception, whether any other would/could act differently is open to question.


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    #726
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-claims-ireland-among-top-testing-tier-not-substantiated-by-evidence-1.4221258


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    #727
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Madisyn Modern Spaniel wrote: »
    Apparently, Leo is back on the IMC register. Fair play!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-varadkar-returns-to-practising-medicine-to-help-during-crisis-1.4221463

    it makes me sort of proud, that our leader can actually stand among the frontline-workers, and contribute. It is a stark contrast to other worldwide leaders


    Photo opportunity coming up.


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    #728
    BabysCoffee
    Registered Users Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Have RTE ditched the new Kathryn Thomas programme Operaton Covid Nation?

    I hope so, the last thing you'd want is reports from around the country with 'Shouting' Thomas.


    This was a disgusting notion - I hope "Operation Covid Nation" (shudder) is well and truly buried


    Everyone who was involved with the thinking up of it should be ashamed of their opportunism at a time like this


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    #729
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,882 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Yes there are. Look at the blame game on this thread.

    Who decides what inhumane practices are versus a country's culture, you?

    Look at the west. Most purport to love dogs. Why do people keep them restricted all day and only take them for a walk when it pleases the owner? Is that not abuse. Shouldn't a dog be free to run around in a larger area? It's the culture of the West to restrict a dog's freedom for our ends.

    No & 99% of professional opinion would disagree. Plus we have laws & penalties that govern animal care. We don't throw them into boiling water alive, skin them alive etc.

    This matter needs International Treaties backed up by a Court - like the Hague.


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    #730
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    bekker wrote: »
    Good leaders take advice from varied sources, weight it, and act decisively.

    Irish governments over recent decades have been slaves to Departmental 'advice' usually based on a 'no one has ever been fired for buying IBM' type of source, and then act indecisively when sufficient pressure is felt.

    The current caretaker government is no exception, whether any other would/could act differently is open to question.

    Sure as we were told when people were crying out for planes to be stopped, “how would we feel if Italy stopped all Irish flights?”. Our govt put Italian feelings ahead of citizens lives.


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    #731
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Photo opportunity coming up.

    And fair play to him. All hands on deck needed.


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    #732
    keynes
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭keynes


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Strong leaders don't really tend to care if they get slated, as long as they're making the right decisions.

    Weak leaders tend to either avoid making hard decisions, dither/tiptoe around them... or just hide behind token words like "expert advice".

    You know, the sort of "expert advice" that our CMO was giving around nursing homes and whether or not to cancel Paddy's day etc.

    Who was giving the expert advice, when they completely shat the bed around the Cheltenham debacle?

    Yes, expert advice indeed... :rolleyes:

    Our "leaders" have to consult also with their "European partners" (about things like letting in countless flights from Milan all through Feb and Mar).

    Its remarkable how "common sense" would have led to better decisions at every juncture of this catastrophe.


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    #733
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    And fair play to him. All hands on deck needed.

    Perhaps he's expecting not to be Taoiseach next week.


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    #734
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    polesheep wrote: »
    The frontline workers won't be jumping up and down. He was one of the laziest doctors in the country.

    Source?


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    #735
    fullstop
    Registered Users Posts: 11,369 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    polesheep wrote: »
    The frontline workers won't be jumping up and down. He was one of the laziest doctors in the country.

    And you know this how?


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    #736
    AllGunsBlazing
    Registered Users Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    The UK lockdown/social distancing directives seem to be getting a bit ropey. The government is practically pleading with people to adhere with an understatement of please don't make us go full authoritarian on you.


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    #737
    Be right back
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Be right back


    polesheep wrote: »
    The frontline workers won't be jumping up and down. He was one of the laziest doctors in the country.

    How do you know that?


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    #738
    kyote00
    Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭kyote00


    his hole...
    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    Source?


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    #739
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    Would you honestly describe his tenure as MFH a success?

    Probably more close to success than others come or could come.

    He is playing a blinder now though.


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    #740
    RobertKK
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    No refund for the unsuitable goods bought from China it seems.


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    #741
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,715 ✭ [Deleted User]


    polesheep wrote: »
    The frontline workers won't be jumping up and down. He was one of the laziest doctors in the country.

    It actually takes effort to come up with this level of absolute nonsense.


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    #742
    ihdxwz4a3pem9j
    Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    While I didn't personally work with him, I know some of his colleagues that worked in a Dublin Hospital. They said he was a typical intern and SHO. They didn't mention that he was particularly lazy. A few stories can get conflated into a general perception. And I say this as an actual frontline worker in the hospital. The gesture itself means a lot. It feels like solidarity towards his fellow medical professionals.


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    #743
    solidasarock
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭solidasarock


    Good for Leo to do something.

    While SF's only recent activity is taking cheap swipes in the press and other TD's try and use the virus to get out of Dail meetings its nice to see some major politicians not dicking around.


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    #744
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    polesheep wrote: »
    The frontline workers won't be jumping up and down. He was one of the laziest doctors in the country.

    The whole thing is very bad altogether.


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    #745
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    There is currently around 280 people in ICU in Ireland. 142 with Covid19


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    #746
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Have ye all the tricolour flying??

    Ask again later


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    #747
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    To be fair...the man is putting his money where his mouth is.He is no more a saint that any of the rest of us, but actions speak louder than words.


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    #748
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    solidasarock wrote: »
    Good for Leo to do something.

    While SF's only recent activity is taking cheap swipes in the press and other TD's try and use the virus to get out of Dail meetings its nice to see some major politicians not dicking around.

    I'm a member of SF.


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    #749
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    keynes wrote: »
    Our "leaders" have to consult also with their "European partners" (about things like letting in countless flights from Milan all through Feb and Mar).

    Its remarkable how "common sense" would have led to better decisions at every juncture of this catastrophe.
    No they didn't, health and security are national competencies, they chose to subordinate.

    Common sense and political expediency rarely coincide.


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    #750
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246843286800732162?s=20


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    #751
    Scuid Mhór
    Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    The UK lockdown/social distancing directives seem to be getting a bit ropey. The government is practically pleading with people to adhere with an understatement of please don't make us go full authoritarian on you.

    So much for the herd immunity approach.


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