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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #752
    bekker
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Perhaps he's expecting not to be Taoiseach next week.
    Or sees another election looming.


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    #753
    AllGunsBlazing
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    Danzy wrote: »
    Probably more close to success than others come or could come.

    What were his "close successes" ?


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    #754
    bekker
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    solidasarock wrote: »
    Good for Leo to do something.

    While SF's only recent activity is taking cheap swipes in the press and other TD's try and use the virus to get out of Dail meetings its nice to see some major politicians not dicking around.
    I fear your yardstick for measuring major is short a few feet.


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    #755
    froog
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    BabysCoffee wrote: »
    This was a disgusting notion - I hope "Operation Covid Nation" (shudder) is well and truly buried


    Everyone who was involved with the thinking up of it should be ashamed of their opportunism at a time like this

    what? why? it was going to look at ways to occupy time etc while being cooped up at home. whats wrong with that?


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    #756
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    solidasarock wrote: »
    Good for Leo to do something.

    While SF's only recent activity is taking cheap swipes in the press and other TD's try and use the virus to get out of Dail meetings its nice to see some major politicians not dicking around.

    What would be the actual point of Leo suiting up and going into battle in some random hospital...??

    Serious question?

    It would be a bit like the general of an army, jumping into the trenches with his soldiers and risking getting killed for the sake of currying favour with the men he's supposed to be leading... in other words, it would be very foolish and dumb!

    Strikes me as more PR bullsh!t from our esteemed leader! Unless someone can enlighten me as to some other sensible reason why this would be necessary?


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    #757
    blade1
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    No refund for the unsuitable goods bought from China it seems.

    Ali-Express have a refund process.


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    #758
    polesheep
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    Madisyn Modern Spaniel wrote: »
    While I didn't personally work with him, I know some of his colleagues that worked in a Dublin Hospital. They said he was a typical intern and SHO. They didn't mention that he was particularly lazy. A few stories can get conflated into a general perception. And I say this as an actual frontline worker in the hospital. The gesture itself means a lot. It feels like solidarity towards his fellow medical professionals.

    I'll have to differ with you on that. It is irrelevant anyway, he is the Taoiseach, at no time should he abandon that post to work in a hospital. It's pure spin. And I'm not taking a political stance, I'm a lifelong floating voter.


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    #759
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    We are sandwiched in between two countries that have handled the situation abysmally. Both leaders up until recently showed total ignorance and disregard towards the severity of the situation causing deaths.

    Our Govt have been way ahead of the two. Now we have the Taoiseach stepping up further to the plate and some keyboard warrior assclown pulls a lazy genralisation out of his hole.


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    #760
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    We are sandwiched in between two countries that have handled the situation abysmally. Both leaders up until recently showed total ignorance and disregard towards the severity of the situation causing deaths.

    Our Govt have been way ahead of the two. Now we have the Taoiseach stepping up further to the plate and some keyboard warrior assclown pulls a lazy genralisation out of his hole.

    In terms of the hard numbers/stats, the U.S are currently doing better than Ireland...


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    #761
    lolokeogh
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    What would be the actual point of Leo suiting up and going into battle in some random hospital...??

    Serious question?

    It would be a bit like the general of an army, jumping into the trenches with his soldiers and risking getting killed for the sake of currying favour with the men he's supposed to be leading... in other words, it would be very foolish and dumb!

    Strikes me as more PR bullsh!t from our esteemed leader! Unless someone can enlighten me as to some other sensible reason why this would be necessary?


    Leo will not be trying on any of the new gear from china,hes is on phone dutys "The report says Mr. Varadkar will work within the Health Service Executive (HSE), providing essential over-the-phone assessments to anyone who thinks they may have been exposed to COVID-19.


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    #762
    is_that_so
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    What would be the actual point of Leo suiting up and going into battle in some random hospital...??

    Serious question?

    It would be a bit like the general of an army, jumping into the trenches with his soldiers and risking getting killed for the sake of currying favour with the men he's supposed to be leading... in other words, it would be very foolish and dumb!

    Strikes me as more PR bullsh!t from our esteemed leader! Unless someone can enlighten me as to some other sensible reason why this would be necessary?
    They need as many healthcare people as they can get and he's stepped up as a medical professional and he's just one of many.


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    #763
    thomasdylan
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    polesheep wrote: »
    The frontline workers won't be jumping up and down. He was one of the laziest doctors in the country.

    He wasn't. Have you worked with him?


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    #764
    polesheep
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    We are sandwiched in between two countries that have handled the situation abysmally. Both leaders up until recently showed total ignorance and disregard towards the severity of the situation causing deaths.

    Our Govt have been way ahead of the two. Now we have the Taoiseach stepping up further to the plate and some keyboard warrior assclown pulls a lazy genralisation out of his hole.

    Honestly, what plate has he stepped up to? I will give him credit for standing back and allowing the experts to to their thing. He has certainly shown good judgement in that regard.


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    #765
    Drumpot
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    polesheep wrote: »
    I'll have to differ with you on that. It is irrelevant anyway, he is the Taoiseach, at no time should he abandon that post to work in a hospital. It's pure spin. And I'm not taking a political stance, I'm a lifelong floating voter.

    If he helps in the area of healthcare, why does it matter if it’s spin? If he’s actually taking a physical risk with his own health (increased chances of getting it in a hospital environment) surely that’s a real leader getting their hands dirty and getting into the trenches with the soldiers?

    I can think of a lot worse spin tactics used by parties, particularly spin that doesn’t put a politicians health at risk.

    The Taoiseach is not running the country on his own, if he’s really helping out then it’s great. If all it does is increases the spirits of a lot of healthcare workers (the ones not completely cynical) then it’s a good thing.


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    #766
    Jinglejangle69
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    We are sandwiched in between two countries that have handled the situation abysmally. Both leaders up until recently showed total ignorance and disregard towards the severity of the situation causing deaths.

    Our Govt have been way ahead of the two. Now we have the Taoiseach stepping up further to the plate and some keyboard warrior assclown pulls a lazy genralisation out of his hole.

    Don't let them drag you down to their negative level.

    Imagine spending all day literally moaning and whinging about people trying to do their best during a pandemic while they sit on their couch behind an iPhone.

    These people would be the first to run away from anything and leave others to fight.

    Insecure and jealous.


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    #767
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    We are sandwiched in between two countries that have handled the situation abysmally. Both leaders up until recently showed total ignorance and disregard towards the severity of the situation causing deaths.

    Our Govt have been way ahead of the two. Now we have the Taoiseach stepping up further to the plate and some keyboard warrior assclown pulls a lazy genralisation out of his hole.
    Hopefully this time next year we will in a position to make such a judgement based on something other that political prejudice.


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    #768
    polesheep
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    They need as many healthcare people as they can get and he's stepped up as a medical professional and he's just one of many.

    Actually, there is a possibility that we could be awash with medics. If that happens, however, it will be a happy situation to be in.


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    #769
    Danzy
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    In terms of the hard numbers/stats, the U.S are currently doing better than Ireland...

    This should be what you think of when you hear the phrase, a Jesuitical answer.


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    #770
    rebeve
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    I wonder will he get a new mug .


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    #771
    Jinglejangle69
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    polesheep wrote: »
    Actually, there is a possibility that we could be awash with medics. If that happens, however, it will be a happy situation to be in.

    1000 healthcare workers out with covid.

    Noone in the world knows where this will end.

    We may need anyone medically qualified in a few weeks or even months.

    What are you gonna do to help?


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    #772
    branie2
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    When's the next update on infections and deaths?


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    #773
    Snow Garden
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    At the beginning I thought Fine Gael were doing a decent job even if their testing numbers were a bit of nonsense considering the capacity and lag.

    Now I think they are spinning too much and trying to milk it for votes. It's not honourable.

    Leo should not double job at this critical time.

    The China delivery drama blew up in their faces, now this charade....all for optics of course.


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    #774
    coastwatch
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    There are 794 currently hospitalised here with covid 19, according to RTE 6 news.
    Based on 20% of cases requiring hospitalisation, that would indicate total cases of around 4000.
    I think thats good news, as it's indication that the true number of cases is close to the confirmed number and not multiples of it, as feared.


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    #775
    is_that_so
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    branie2 wrote: »
    When's the next update on infections and deaths?
    There will be a statement at some point this evening.


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    #776
    normanoffside
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    People saying we should have done x,y,z sooner still don't seem to get that the Government's strategy never was and and still isn't to stop the Virus completely.

    The strategy is and has always been to keep the spread down to manageable for the Health service levels and they seem to have got that spot on.


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    #777
    polesheep
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    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    1000 healthcare workers out with covid.

    Noone in the world knows where this will end.

    We may need anyone medically qualified in a few weeks or even months.

    What are you gonna do to help?

    We may well need each and every one of them, that doesn't mean that one cannot speculate that we might not. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we didn't?


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    #778
    Jinglejangle69
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    Snow Garden wrote: »
    At the beginning I thought Fine Gael were doing a decent job even if their testing numbers were a bit of nonsense.

    Now I think they are spinning too much and trying to milk it. It's not honourable.

    Yeah sure you did.

    You spend all day long on the FG thread whinging crying moaning about them.

    You offer nothing during this crisis only negativity and moaning.


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    #779
    branie2
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    I hope it is good news


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    #780
    easypazz
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    In terms of the hard numbers/stats, the U.S are currently doing better than Ireland...

    How do you make that out?


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    #781
    Ficheall
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    Isn't Leo just working on the phones?
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-varadkar-returns-to-practising-medicine-to-help-during-crisis-1.4221463


    "It is understood the Taoiseach is helping out in phone assessments. Anyone who may have been exposed to Covid-19 is initially assessed over the phone rather than in person, to curb the spread of the virus."


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