CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

Cork Boy 53

ednwireland wrote: »

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ireland/leinster/dublin/dublin-o-connell-street.html

must have all gone home !

Pintman Paddy has a track record of let`s say being economical with the truth and posting windup comments.

callaway92

munsterlegend wrote: »

Just reading on Cork Safety alerts that parts of Mallow hospital are closer to the public and have been for over a week. Must be an outbreak there as well.

Yeh that's correct - A staff member had it etc

caveat emptor

lord quackinton wrote: »

Let’s all agree that deaths per million is surely a figure we can agree that is comparable
Using that figure we are not doing well in comparison to the majority of countries
If we can’t use this stat then we can not trust any stats

And if that is the case then it’s time to open up

Take the case of someone who’s father died in a nursing home with ARD. Waiting over 2 weeks for test result , still no result. I imagine a dead persons test isn’t priority as it’s not much use to them.

Does this get recorded as a covid induced death?

Based on current rules it doesn’t.
Given that the vast majority of our deaths are occurring in nursing homes what affect could this have on our recorded deaths?

surely must be many more people like this person who died while awaiting test result or weren’t even test the affect on the actual death rate is probably significant.

Many many ways to massage all the numbers in the funnel.

Strazdas

caveat emptor wrote: »

I love how people don’t get it . All you need is one car with someone infected to then keep this thing going. They’ll be out and about buying supplies. You go back to square one with an imported case if no lock down.

Takes on average 4 weeks to run its course in a house hold. 2 weeks for inital infection and 2 weeks for subsequent assuming everyone is isolating.

I really think this is going to flare back up as soon as restrictions lifted. Logically the only way to stop it is if everyone and I mean everyone stays at home for 4 weeks China style.

If different countries take a different approach this will be ineffective.

There is no other way out other than letting it run it’s course through the population.

Those draconian restrictions took place in a single city (Wuhan). Everyone else in China outside Hubei province was free to go about their daily business.

The 'lockdown now' people seem to be under the impression the whole of China was placed under quarantine / martial law. In the Irish context, it would have been like if Waterford city had been placed under lockdown but nowhere else.

wakka12

953 deaths in the UK today

England 866
Wales 29
Scotland 48
NI 10

Bannasidhe

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Yeah it seems to be a red herring. Vast majority of ferry traffic are trucks keeping our grocery stores stocked up.

https://twitter.com/fergalrte/status/1248275464336093185

Not disputing this but what are Irish people who live in the UK doing getting on a ferry?

expectationlost

weisses wrote: »

Why ?

there has to be a move on to the next step in getting back to normal, I don't mean no restrictions I just mean a transition to whatever the new normal is.

A Dub in Glasgo

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Genuine question - how on Earth can you tell the registration of all those cars whose number plates are not visible due to being hidden by the vehicle in front?

visbile in that article

NaiveMelodies

Strazdas wrote: »

Those draconian restrictions took place in a single city (Wuhan). Everyone else in China outside Hubei province was free to go about their daily business.

Second line is a complete and utter lie.

podgeandrodge

Phoebas wrote: »

I was out for a game of five a side in the park yesterday evening and one of the lads on the other team was coughing and spluttering all over the place.
Honestly, some people just don't get it!

I think one of the posters that thanked you for this post thought you were serious.

wakka12

Prime minister of Sint Maarten isnt taking any ****!

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/coronavirus-viral-caribbean-video-message-sint-maarten

The tiny Caribbean Island nation with a population of just 40,000 has experienced 8 coronavirus related deaths so far

Bannasidhe

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

visbile in that article

I must be missing something. There are 4 images in that article. This 1 of only 2 showing vehicles.



No matter how hard I try I cannot read the reg on the campervan, the white car behind the blue Irish reg car, or the car with the roofbox behind the UK reg Audi.

Christy42

lord quackinton wrote: »

Let’s all agree that deaths per million is surely a figure we can agree that is comparable
Using that figure we are not doing well in comparison to the majority of countries
If we can’t use this stat then we can not trust any stats

And if that is the case then it’s time to open up

Why would that stat being unreliable mean it is time to open up? What we have is a lower bound for each country. We know it is a lower bound so why would we open up if the lower bound suggests that we shouldn't open up.

Yes every country has a massive backlog in tests. Many are just focusing on in hospital deaths. Random deaths in New York have increased 4 fold in recent times. Most of them will be due to Covid. However without confirmation none of them get counted in their stats. And I reckon it is the same the world over.

It is awkward to compare countries without massive differences but we have enough info to not open up.

Testing figures can give a comparison as to how much of a lower bound it is but even the best estimates are lower bounds right now.

An Ciarraioch

Almost 1,000 UK deaths today (866 Eng, 48 Sco, 29 Wales, 10 NI) = 953.

podgeandrodge

wakka12 wrote: »

Prime minister of Sint Maarten isnt taking any ****!

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/coronavirus-viral-caribbean-video-message-sint-maarten

The tiny Caribbean Island nation with a population of just 40,000 has experienced 8 coronavirus related deaths so far

watch the 2nd video!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1248286526842249217

Gynoid

wakka12 wrote: »

Prime minister of Sint Maarten isnt taking any ****!

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/coronavirus-viral-caribbean-video-message-sint-maarten

The tiny Caribbean Island nation with a population of just 40,000 has experienced 8 coronavirus related deaths so far

I like her Can she be our Prime Minister please.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Laughed like a drain at this. The ‘What day of the week is it?’ song. Strangely hypnotic.

https://twitter.com/urchinette/status/1248272919282712576?s=21

Sawduck

I'm guessing it's safe to get take away food since a few are still open

is_that_so

From Guardian feed @14.28

Spain lifting some restrictions on non-essential workers returning to work

The Spanish government has announced plans to hand out face masks to people at metro and train stations from Monday as some non-essential workers begin returning to their jobs at the end of the country’s two-week freeze on all non-vital economic activity.

Factory and construction workers are set to start back next week despite warnings that the relaxation of the strict confinement policy could drive a rise in contagion.

speckle

munsterlegend wrote: »

Just reading on Cork Safety alerts that parts of Mallow hospital are closer to the public and have been for over a week. Must be an outbreak there as well.

In february hospitals where designated for receiving covid patients pretty much evey hospital was on that list. Included one I know that didnt even have a cardioligist or respiratory specialist. Probably why they need the private ones onboard too. list online think hspc wesite.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221

Shirley this can't be happening in a place like America?

brickster69

Also from the Guardian

" NHS England has announced 866 new deaths of people who tested positive for Covid-19, bringing the total number of confirmed reported deaths in hospitals in England to 8,114.

Of the 866 new deaths announced today, 117 occurred on 9 April while 720 took place between 1 April and 8 April.

The remaining 29 deaths occurred in March, including one on March 5. "

Cork Boy 53

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Almost 1,000 UK deaths today (866 Eng, 48 Sco, 29 Wales, 10 NI) = 953.

The UK situation is getting out of control. The herd immunity policy is really being shown up for the utter stupidity that it was.

AtomicHorror

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Laughed like a drain at this. The ‘What day of the week is it?’ song. Strangely hypnotic.

https://twitter.com/urchinette/status/1248272919282712576?s=21

If someone hasn't already made a 10 hour loop of that on YouTube, it needs to happen.

caveat emptor

Sawduck wrote: »

I'm guessing it's safe to get take away food since a few are still open

Guess so

Strumms

Wibbs wrote: »

The donkey's face. I have this human well trained.

Or, god, wish this ass would hurry up, I can’t feel my legs.

gabeeg

brickster69 wrote: »

Also from the Guardian

" NHS England has announced 866 new deaths of people who tested positive for Covid-19, bringing the total number of confirmed reported deaths in hospitals in England to 8,114.

Of the 866 new deaths announced today, 117 occurred on 9 April while 720 took place between 1 April and 8 April.

The remaining 29 deaths occurred in March, including one on March 5. "

Gives you an idea just how unreliable almost all statistics are during this crisis

RasTa

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1248611724569108481

AtomicHorror

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221

Shirley this can't be happening in a place like America?

It's serious - and don't call me Shirley.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221

Shirley this can't be happening in a place like America?

When 40,000 - 70,000 people needlessly die every year because they have no health insurance and 500,000 go bankrupt because they cannot pay their medical bills, why would mass graves in America be a particular surprise?