CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

igCorcaigh

boardise wrote: »

Interesting -that's the way I'd have gone as well. Slightly more palatable psychologically and then you'd be saying 'Just one more week'.

That wouldn't allow enough time to reassess things and just increases the liklihood of a further extension. Which seems likely to me anyway.

Tandey

boardise wrote: »

Can you imagine the leader of the free world hitting his audience with a poem ?:D
The bind moggles.

I’d prefer a poem than lies every day of the year.

The_Kew_Tour

Right decision to make it least another 3 weeks. But anyone who thinks it will be relaxed in coming 2 months are kidding themselves

A Dub in Glasgo

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They shouldn't let anyone off a plane or boat who can't produce evidence of address here, otherwise we are wasting our time.

Surely anyone coming through the ports and airport should be self isolating (unless they are classed as a key worker)?

polesheep

Mr.S wrote: »

Well they have to, there’s no other option.

Hopefully it’s actively enforced and people are fined for breaking the rules.

Would that be the same people that are fined week in and week out but never actually pay the fine? The same people who couldn't give a damn about a string of convictions? Because that's where this lockdown will start to crumble first. It was a terrible decision. They should have said a week or two and asked people to double down.

is_that_so

igCorcaigh wrote: »

No guarantee!
Could well be extended again.

These restrictions should be lifted and other stuff at two week intervals. Pubs will be along way off opening I'd say and big gatherings not till the end of summer.

BanditLuke

Tandey wrote: »

Carnage down in Wexford apparently with the amount of people that have swanned down there for this weekend.

So sad. Think me may see the army out with roadblocks if people can't act responsible

murpho999

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Plenty.

We're facing bankrupcy as a nation but the government can afford 2 signers for every press conference. Ridiculous.

Maybe they're volunteering.

Seriously , what a load of sh1te you write.

If they weren't being employed they'd be claiming €350 a week off the state anyway.

thebaz

Given from I can follow our testing strategy and implementation has been a fiasco, why continue with contract testing ?

Why not just test people who have symtoms or are sick (as we have seamed unable to to do this from the getgo), rather than wasting huge resources trying to trace back people who only may be infected ?

Really puzzles me.

tobefrank321

The UK is riddled with coronavirus. Letting people in from there without restrictions makes a complete joke of this lockdown.

You cannot bring this under control when you let people in unscreened and into the community.

If an Irish person goes to London for a weekend there's a strong chance they bring it back.

keynes

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They shouldn't let anyone off a plane or boat who can't produce evidence of address here, otherwise we are wasting our time.

Over the next few weeks/months Ireland will make an excellent breakaway destination for Brits as Corona continues to ravage Britain.

lawred2

fr336 wrote: »

Maybe they should. I'm far less of a risk to others. Oh and I'm an essential worker when I finish my leave.

Away With The Fairies

They said that we reduced our Ro number. How do they know that when they aren't testing everyone with symptoms to allow for this contact tracing? They're only testing if you have two symptoms and a fever. Are they trying to make our numbers look good?

tobefrank321

Mr.S wrote: »

You forgot to include the “passenger travel is down 95%” part.

And you missed the part where it takes only 1 case to spread this widely.

1 case in wuhan led to 1.5 million worldwide in 6 months.

AtomicHorror

thebaz wrote: »

Given from I can follow our testing strategy and implementation has been a fiasco, why continue with contract testing ?

Why not just test people who have symtoms or are sick (as we have seamed unable to to do this from the getgo), rather than wasting huge resources trying trying to trace back people who only may be infected ?

Really puzzles me.

Because that approach relies on people to come forward, which in some cases they can't do and in other cases they won't do. Contact tracing also helps to identify asymptomatic carriers.

stephenjmcd

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Surely anyone coming through the ports and airport should be self isolating (unless they are classed as a key worker)?

Leo answered the ports and airports question. They checked on the reports from the ports regarding huge numbers of people coming in and they were unfounded.

Backs up what stena and Irish ferries already said along with an rte reporter at the ports.

Air traffic track down 95%

podgeandrodge

fr336 wrote: »

Just been out for walk (England). God the joggers get on my tits. Only a few of them but that was enough. Breathing and panting past you. Surely such geniuses could work out an exercise regime at home? Or simply walk like us mere mortals?

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Do you normally walk without breathing?

fr336 wrote: »

You know exactly what I meant. Out of breath from their business as usual running. Ironically if they've caught this thing the exercise may be detrimental.

I go out for a walk every evening to get some exercise. But I have to say, some runners do make me a bit nervous. I'm walking along the path, and moving away from anyone I encounter to the best of my ability, but this particular type of runner, not the guy just jogging along, but the running equivalent of the tour de france cyclist types, that are heavily exhaling with every step.

There is breathing, and there is exhaling at the power of a cough. And we all know which is more dangerous in terms of keeping our distance. I wouldn't like being in a supermarket within 6 feet of someone breathing that heavily, so I'd rather not have to encounter it on a footpath.

is_that_so

thebaz wrote: »

Given that from I can follow our testing strategy and implementation has been a fiasco, why continue with contract testing ?

Why not just test people who have symtoms or are sick (as we seam unable to have been unable to do this from the getgo), rather than wasting huge resources trying trying to trace back people who only may be infected ?

Really puzzles me.

What seems to be the plan is to get the transmission rate below 1. In tandem there's the ramped up testing now that we can get reagents and contact tracing with that. Judging by this they still expect cases but will aim to manage it as they do in a flu' season.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Jebus. Meltdown on Twitter over the LC happening. Lots of mentions of mental health and even some mentions of suicides. When did mental health issues become weaponised? I don't really get the controversy. Shouldn't students have been preparing for the possibility the exams might go ahead?

0gac3yjefb5sv7

sammyjo90 wrote: »

Seriously?
No one can guarantee anything

Well we can't keep this indefinitely. People need to see family etc. I can take my own precautions after that.

take everything

keynes wrote: »

Over the next few weeks/months Ireland will make an excellent breakaway destination for Brits as Corona continues to ravage Britain.

Keynes you don't seem to have responded to any of the posts questioning what you were saying about the 15k being an overreaction in your posts.

Why is this.

Do you maintain that the hospital system would not be overwhelmed if this was left unmitigated

RugbyLad11

Christy42 wrote: »

Tell you what. You go find a cure by then and I'll guarantee less restrictions. Till then off to bed/couch you go.

Denmark didn't get your memo, they are starting to lift restrictions next week

stephenjmcd

is_that_so wrote: »

These restrictions should be lifted and other stuff at two week intervals. Pubs will be along way off opening I'd say and big gatherings not till the end of summer.

They've already said no guarantee that restrictions are lifted in 3 weeks but they do hope to have gradual easing after that. All depends where we are in 2 weeks really

Macdarack

I hope all those assholes who went to their holiday homes get pinned by the guards when they head back to their primary homes after the weekend.

Level 42

thats rubbish from leo abt not providing a whistle blower hot line for reporting idiots not doing social distancing this should be done

boardise

fr336 wrote: »

Just been out for walk (England). God the joggers get on my tits. Only a few of them but that was enough. Breathing and panting past you. Surely such geniuses could work out an exercise regime at home? Or simply walk like us mere mortals?

Plus most of them are just lumbering lumps of lard...some comical sights out there.:D

keynes

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

They said that we reduced our Ro number. How do they know that when they aren't testing everyone with symptoms to allow for this contact tracing? They're only testing if you have two symptoms and a fever. Are they trying to make our numbers look good?

A value for R_0 when everyone is under lockdown is pretty meaningless anyway. (I'm leaving aside the fact that the figure is impossible to estimate given the shambolic testing we have)

Atlantic Dawn

Those coming off the boats and planes will be mixing with lots of people.

Atlantic Dawn

Finally someone speaking the native tongue.

tobefrank321

This press conference is ridiculous. They've no proper metric to measure success. Testing is hopelessly backlogged. They still aren't giving out enough PPE to hospitals and nursing homes. And they are still allowing hundreds if not thousands of people in by ferries and planes.

There is zero hope of the lockdown being lifted on may 5th.

I hate the false hope Varadkar gives people.