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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #8822
    ElTel
    Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    polesheep wrote: »
    They are. I know first hand as my wife has been working there, which makes today's extension all the more bizarre.

    I get what you mean but I think it's to counteract complacency in the general public wrt social distancing. A ramp up in testing with quicker results coupled with the positive signs in the trend graphs has the optimist in me trying to assert itself again.


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    #8823
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Tony hasn't explained this well in fairness to the journalists


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    #8824
    Mr.Crinklewood
    Registered Users Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    what Is the increase in deaths

    Not watching, but going by this thread it will be + 1 George.


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    #8825
    CitizenFloor
    Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭CitizenFloor


    Longing wrote:
    I don't blame George. He's right. Why two sets of numbers. Just leave it to one figure.


    Which figure would you leave out?


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    #8826
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Longing wrote: »
    I don't blame George. He's right. Why two sets of numbers. Just leave it to one figure.
    One set is broken down for the briefing, the other is just a raw up to date figure. CMO says it's how it's done in this kind of scenario.


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    #8827
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,665 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    This is like a trial.


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    #8828
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,483 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    This must be the 6th time he's explained it now


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    #8829
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,551 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    As with most numbers they are reported in the foggiest way and Tony struggles to clarify any number.


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    #8830
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,141 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    The patience tony has to listen to that crap is unreal
    Pity he seems unable to give a straight answer

    Very deflective with his comments about Germany. He's saying there's a figure they have always reported which is the updated "today" figure (in this case 7,054)

    The analysis they do of hospital figures has always been based on yesterday's figures.

    The extra 800+ is apparently from Germany, but TBH he's causing more confusion with his comments which worries me


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    #8831
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users Posts: 10,642 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Tony hasn't explained this well in fairness to the journalists

    To be fair, he's bloody knackered


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    #8832
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ElTel wrote: »
    I get what you mean but I think it's to counteract complacency in the general public wrt social distancing. A ramp up in testing with quicker results coupled with the positive signs in the trend graphs has the optimist in me trying to assert itself again.

    Which is dishonesty. You can win through dishonesty as long as you are not found out, but it is a risky gambit.


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    #8833
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/georgeleerte/status/1248649141745602561?s=21

    We are getting back to the old George Lee. I like it.


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    #8834
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    So those German ones happened up to 2 weeks ago and so aren’t important in understanding the current situation.

    However they were important to our understanding of how the disease evolved.

    They should be added to the date where the test occurred. We could see the daily evolution clearer.

    It just sounds like the extra thousand isn’t important.

    7k vs 8k is important.


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    #8835
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Not sure why it's so unclear - journalists' questions is making it so.


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    #8836
    Longing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Longing


    CitizenFloor wrote: »
    Which figure would you leave out?

    I'm not qualified for that. One number works best for the average joe like me.


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    #8837
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Deleted User wrote: »
    "Killing your granny"?

    Quite the empirical approach, that.

    You win people over through feelings, not through empiricism.


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    #8838
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,483 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not sure why it's so unclear - journalists' questions is making it so.

    They intimated a few days ago the numbers were included in the totals - today is the first time they have said no, there is a different total with the German numbers included.
    They haven't made it easy on themselves


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    #8839
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Longing wrote: »
    I don't blame George. He's right. Why two sets of numbers. Just leave it to one figure.

    Initially when they started reporting cases, journalists were asking for age/sex breakdowns. They said there would be a detailed report issued. The detailed report is 36hrs old to allow time to break down the figures.
    Hence the 2 different figures.


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    #8840
    billybonkers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    It's explained perfectly clearly. Analyzed figures and up to the minute figures

    The journalist questions are confusing everyone!


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    #8841
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,551 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not sure why it's so unclear - journalists' questions is making it so.

    They are just trying to get a straight answer.


    Unless they are blurring the figures and tryna stay as vague as possible they should really simplify/proofread their update to avoid making a pigs ear of it.


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    #8842
    phonypony
    Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭phonypony


    This whole thing stinks of a bunch of bored journos left waiting for a briefing, all talking to each other and causing this confusion amongst themselves, then blaming Tony for it. It was crystal clear and yet they seem to have decided to ambush him, constantly interrupting when he's trying to explain it again and again...


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    #8843
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Beasty wrote: »
    Pity he seems unable to give a straight answer

    Very deflective with his comments about Germany. He's saying there's a figure they have always reported which is the updated "today" figure (in this case 7,054)

    The analysis they do of hospital figures has always been based on yesterday's figures.

    The extra 800+ is apparently from Germany, but TBH he's causing more confusion with his comments which worries me

    TBH, and I hate to say it given the predicament we are in, but I really believe this man has been exposed as not being up to the job. No matter how many times posters call him 'Tony'.


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    #8844
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,141 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A dynamic number???

    They know how many swabs they have taken. They know how many results they have. Subtract one figure from the other and that's how many are waiting?


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    #8845
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    fritzelly wrote: »
    They intimated a few days ago the numbers were included in the totals - today is the first time they have said no, there is a different total with the German numbers included.
    They haven't made it easy on themselves
    He said German tests are in both numbers, bigger one is just more up to date but not analysed.


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    #8846
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    54% of deaths in the Republic were in nursing homes (156):


    https://twitter.com/tuairiscnuacht/status/1248670384850964489


    RIP to all but that's quite a stat

    I thought Ireland and many other countries weren't counting all the Nursing Home moralities as Covid numbers? It's hard to keep up with it all


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    #8847
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,436 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    is there anything to be said for a couple of slides on powerpoint, or a press handout?


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    #8848
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,551 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Beasty wrote: »
    A dynamic number???

    They know how many swabs they have taken. They know how many results they have. Subtract one figure from the other and that's how many are waiting?

    Why is this so hard for them to do? Needless evasion of basic facts.


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    #8849
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    54% of deaths from nursing homes. Surely it would have been quite easy to secure these locations.


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    #8850
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    george lee right now

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    #8851
    quartz1
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭quartz1


    156 confirmed Corona positive Deaths in Nursing Homes..... thats justnso sad


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