CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

caveat emptor

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

If they tested everyone on the island prob 100,000 people are carrying the virus and they cant do nothing about the spread.It kills old and ill so the rest of society is going to have to get along with life as normal pretty soon.
If your old stay at home,if your ill same.
There is no alternative,this solidarity stay at home stuff wont cut it for much longer.

Yeah Conor mcgregor probably trying to purchase a boat big enough to block Dublin Port as we type.

Jinglejangle69

Why are people so concerned with test numbers.

Just stay at home unless essential.

The death rate is the main one to look at.

Simple.

ironingbored

Juwwi wrote: »

https://extra.ie/2020/04/10/news/irish-news/ferry-passengers-lockdown-ireland?fbclid=IwAR2LoWRKEyR9C5MKnH8Yb5NNccHvtf2y0L_oZUN2n6fOTGYRFmjsQL48ogg


Madness

Madness is believing anything that appears on Extra.ie

https://twitter.com/fergalrte/status/1248275464336093185

IrishTimes.jpg

froog

all they had to do was give the actual total today and say "by the way, big increase there due to old tests coming back"

Wibbs

PropJoe10 wrote: »

People should be alert already, but instead they are cruising off to their holiday homes and taking their entire families out to the supermarket. I went to my supermarket earlier and there was a mighty queue of people all standing on top of each other, not even a metre between most of them. That's exactly how it spreads. Sick of watching people being so careless.

P, the sad conclusion I have come to in life is that about a third of people are essentially, well, morons. It's a condition that affects all strata of society and apparent status and qualifications are not as good a judge as one might imagine either. Now most are happy out morons, not nasty or anything, but morons nonetheless.

Now society has to go at the pace of these morons and accommodate them in any planning. It can be a bit of a highwire act. Fear motivates them for sure. QV the lines of morons stocking up on toilet paper. Soft oul platitudes motivate them too. A mix of frightening the sh1te out of them with kind, but simple words seems to be about the best bet. Sadly someone like Varadkar is only good with the scripted platitudes. The traffic lines on various roads out of Dublin the last two days suggests we need more fear involved. Posters of elderly folks looking all lovely, with "you are going to kill your granny unless you stay the fcuk indoors" kinda thing.

Coyote

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thank you Anxiety Fairy

Hi ShineOn7

any chance you could proved more information on what you mean by "Thank you Anxiety Fairy"
I have tried to proved people with some outlines on what the differences in growth could be. I don't clam any of them are correct and it's up to everyone to decide what number they want to believe.
if all you can add to this thread is sarcasm then it's not worth much to
Informing people on the risks

Regards

Coyote

DOCARCH

Worldometer has Ireland (now) with +1515 cases today.

Call me Al

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Why are people so concerned with test numbers.

Just stay at home unless essential.

The death rate is the main one to look at.

Simple.

Because it gives an insight into potential demand on the health service, be that in ICU or general covid ward. Timely swabbing and accurate results are vital for that though.

speckle

otnomart wrote: »

Sweden are also prioritising patients, those over 80 years of age don't go to ICU
source: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samhalle/a/lAyePy/dokument-visar-de-prioriteras-bort-fran-intensivvard

which is crappy because even older people actually have a chance to survive this.

Strazdas

Just Saying wrote: »

Worldometer showing us at 7054 when in reality we should be at 8089...they are confused also.

George was dead right.Tony was going on about the 36 hour old figure on which the detailed data analysis was based whereas George was basically asking about how to report the daily difference between last night's total figure of 6574 and tonight's total of 8089.

I cannot see why they couldn't add in the German cases daily as they received them and use them in whatever way they saw fit for their own modelling purposes.

They are looking for daily and up to date trends. Tests from 2 or 3 weeks ago tell them very little.

ShineOn7

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Great but very sad program on Sky News at the moment on the disaster in northern Italy.

Very sobering.

Rupert Murdoch must be pulling the belly off himself every night in celebration of the figures his "news" channels are getting in all this

Sky News is complete and utter Gloom Porn*



(*That phrase just came to me, but feel free to use it)

Kermit.de.frog

briany wrote: »

Still, the revised forecasts for the U.S. are now pointing to under 100,000 deaths. While that is still untold suffering for so, so many families around the U.S., it is a positive development in the sense of it being less negative than earlier predictions, and you know Trump will be looking to spin that as a win as the presidential race hits full swing in the Autumn.

Under lock down conditions it's easier to make predictions but I have great difficulty believing the presidential race will be in full swing in August.

I think there is a lot of denial of the gravity of the situation and the trap the world finds itself in when trying to open up.

It will be a long time before normality in my opinion anyway.

If people want to believe it's back to normality in the summer more power to them.

Duke of Url

Has the backlog of test results been cleared now?

MikeSoys

anyone wtching cnn the live feed from white house was just cut and it s showing a empty chair.. whats going on?

PropJoe10

Wibbs wrote: »

P, the sad conclusion I have come to in life is that about a third of people are essentially, well, morons. It's a condition that affects all strata of society and apparent status and qualifications are not as good a judge as one might imagine either. Now most are happy out morons, not nasty or anything, but morons nonetheless.

Now society has to go at the pace of these morons and accommodate them in any planning. It can be a bit of a highwire act. Fear motivates them for sure. QV the lines of morons stocking up on toilet paper. Soft oul platitudes motivate them too. A mix of frightening the sh1te out of them with kind, but simple words seems to be about the best bet. Sadly someone like Varadkar is only good with the scripted platitudes. The traffic lines on various roads out of Dublin the last two days suggests we need more fear involved. Posters of elderly folks lookinga ll lovely, with "you are going to kill your granny unless you stay the fcuk indoors" kinda thing.

True words, but I'm also unsure about why there isn't enough fear already. People are stuck at home and presumably watching television. Are people not seeing what's happened in Italy, Spain, the UK etc? I mean, you'd have to think that even someone with a low to moderate IQ level would understand that this is a very, very serious situation.

But yet, this doesn't seem to be enough, as you said. Is it going to take a member of their own family to get it to make them realise how serious this is? Or maybe they'll need to get it themselves?

In any case, if you separate yourself from the seriousness of the situation, it's a very interesting social study to see how people are reacting to this (or not reacting, as the case may be).

igCorcaigh

DOCARCH wrote: »

Worldometer has Ireland (now) with +1515 cases today.

Weird...

Jim_Hodge

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

If they tested everyone on the island prob 100,000 people are carrying the virus and they cant do nothing about the spread.It kills old and ill so the rest of society is going to have to get along with life as normal pretty soon.
If your old stay at home,if your ill same.
There is no alternative,this solidarity stay at home stuff wont cut it for much longer.

Great to see there's still solidarity in the country.

New Home

speckle wrote: »

which is crappy because even older people acrually have a chance to survive.

Exactly! But there's no telling some people. It's all "triaging", for some.

Duke of Url wrote: »

Has the backlog of test results been cleared now?

Yes
No
Maybe
Some of the above
All of the above
None of the above

Delete as you see fit.

BorneTobyWilde

MikeSoys wrote: »

anyone wtching cnn the live feed from white house was just cut and it s showing a empty chair.. whats going on?

I saw that, it was weird.

Wolf359f

Duke of Url wrote: »

Has the backlog of test results been cleared now?

No, but they said it should be cleared by the middle of next week.

Renjit

DOCARCH wrote: »

Worldometer has Ireland (now) with +1515 cases today.

Official link says:
"480 new cases of COVID-19 in Ireland have been confirmed. There are now 7054 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland."

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#april-10

Wolf359f

Renjit wrote: »

Official link says:
"480 new cases of COVID-19 in Ireland have been confirmed. There are now 7054 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland."

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#april-10

Followed by:
Including test results which have been sent to Germany for testing (which may include tests from older cases) the total figure of those who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland now stands at 8089.

coastwatch

Call me Al wrote: »

Because it gives an insight into potential demand on the health service, be that in ICU or general covid ward. Timely swabbing and accurate results are vital for that though.

But that is the very reason why they should not include the delayed 500 test results in todays daily figure, because it would have indicated a false (too high) growth rate.

tobefrank321

ironingbored wrote: »

Madness is believing anything that appears on Extra.ie

https://twitter.com/fergalrte/status/1248275464336093185

IrishTimes.jpg

One ferry had 4 cars of Irish people who live in the UK.

Do we know if any of them have covid 19?

Do we know if they plan to isolate?

We have no way of knowing the answer to either.

The same people who said we had nothing to worry about re Italian flights are coming out of the woodwork to tell us we have nothing to worry about UK visitors.

ShineOn7

Coyote wrote: »

Hi ShineOn7

any chance you could proved more information on what you mean by "Thank you Anxiety Fairy"
I have tried to proved people with some outlines on what the differences in growth could be. I don't clam any of them are correct and it's up to everyone to decide what number they want to believe.
if all you can add to this thread is sarcasm then it's not worth much to
Informing people on the risks

Regards

Coyote

I add more than sarcasm, but thanks for the backseat Modding anyway

The "thank you Anxiety Fairy" was meant in a light-hearted way. That phrase usually is online

But if that wooshed over your head then ....

ShineOn7

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Why are people so concerned with test numbers.

Just stay at home unless essential.

The death rate is the main one to look at.

Simple.

The more people that are tested, the more people will know they have it/have had it

It'll also help us get a better idea of the mortality rate

irishlad.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1248689459035549699

48 hours.......

BanditLuke

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Under lock down conditions it's easier to make predictions but I have great difficulty believing the presidential race will be in full swing in August.

I think there is a lot of denial of the gravity of the situation and the trap the world finds itself in when trying to open up.

It will be a long time before normality in my opinion anyway.

If people want to believe it's back to normality in the summer more power to them.

Denial is the enemy. People need to stop focusing on the economy of the world as it is fcuked anyway and huge debt write off will follow. We must focus on keeping our boot on the neck of the virus.

martingriff

is_that_so wrote: »

Paul Cullen of the Irish Times. His articles are like that too sometimes.

Thanks

BanditLuke

irishlad. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1248689459035549699

48 hours.......

Speaking of denial