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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    klose wrote: »
    Noticed myself around my area I'm seeing elderly people out walking who I've never seen before in my life around here.
    the in laws started going to the beach before the lockdown. never walked much before but the golf club and bowls club they go to had closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    This is more to do with the 'immunity passport'/back-to-work thing than using donor antibodies to treat the sick.
    Yeah, but you still need to wait for a bit so that you can check for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    On now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    So it's a PPE update. Big place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Sorry to make a joke.....


    "The boxes in the foreground contain effective PPE equipment, the boxes in the background are ****ed "


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    My wife has an aunt and uncle living together, neither ever married. The aunt has been seeing a fella for years (they live apart) and through this thing herself and the fella have been carrying on as normal which involves alot of drinking and calling to other people's houses, that requires some driving so there is drink driving going on. The aunt even went to her hairdressers house the other day to get the hair done. To top all this off the uncle is recovering from cancer and is beside himself with worry. After the aunt ignored the pleas from the uncle and the rest of the family my father in law reported her to the Guards. The Guards came out to the house and told the aunt that she'd be reported for not obeying the lockdown and basically told her to cop on. This quietened her down for 2 days but selfishly she is now back to the same carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    does anyone have a link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RTE News Now, Twitter too apparently on @HSElive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Does anyone have a predicted peak for us yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Welcome to 3 weeks ago kivaro that was some kip you had
    Thank you for that constructive post.

    In a German-owned supermarket last week, there were no sanitiser points, nothing to wipe off the shopping carts, no guidelines/instructions, and zero physical distancing aids e.g. yellow strips on the floor.
    There were also too many people in the shop, as there was nobody at the entrance limiting shoppers.

    Some supermarket chains were late to the game in initiating corrective measures. But as seen in other posts on this thread, it is the smaller shops that are also struggling with these issues today, which is why I recommended government involvement e.g. public service announcements.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    jackboy wrote: »
    Yes, that topic has shown how strong propaganda is. Many on this thread have continued to say how masks don’t work in the face of overwhelming evidence that they reduce the risk of contracting the virus.

    As has been stated often, masks work to protect the user from getting infected if they are of the suitable type and are used correctly. Putting on a mask and taking it off requires a technique the prevents cross contamination. Many casual users will fall down on that thus causing cross contamination, but have a false sense of safety.

    The surgical mask, or just a fabric mask will protect other if the user is infected because it will trap moisture, and thus air born droplets, reducing their range of infection. Again, proper use is needed, but it is less likely that improper use will cause problems to others than the wearer.

    Do we have any/enough masks available?

    The same logic applies to gloves. It is easier to wash hands properly and often rather than be changing gloves constantly.

    Do we have plenty of disposable gloves?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Akabusi wrote: »
    My wife has an aunt and uncle living together, neither ever married. The aunt has been seeing a fella for years (they live apart) and through this thing herself and the fella have been carrying on as normal which involves alot of drinking and calling to other people's houses, that requires some driving so there is drink driving going on. The aunt even went to her hairdressers house the other day to get the hair done. To top all this off the uncle is recovering from cancer and is beside himself with worry. After the aunt ignored the pleas from the uncle and the rest of the family my father in law reported her to the Guards. The Guards came out to the house and told the aunt that she'd be reported for not obeying the lockdown and basically told her to cop on. This quietened her down for 2 days but selfishly she is now back to the same carry on.

    Selfish people do not care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Does anyone have a predicted peak for us yet?
    After Easter has been suggested but an actual date is very elusive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Testing per day of 4500 will be available next week compared to 2000 odd now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭Longing


    4,500 tests per day will be done starting next week


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    GM228 wrote: »
    Testing per day of 4500 will be available next week compared to 2000 odd now.
    Longing wrote: »
    4,500 tests per day will be done starting next week

    Source for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Source for this?

    Paul Reid, live now on TV!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Source for this?

    HSE Live briefing.

    On RTE News Now and Twitter (Twitter sound not great)

    https://twitter.com/HSELive/status/1246739401994121216?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Source for this?

    CEO of the HSE on RTE news now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Source for this?

    Think the Head of HSE said it in his address. But it was passed over quickly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    saabsaab wrote: »
    I thought they have done what you suggest? Anyway I agree they are potential superspreaders for community transmission.
    They need to 'up' the measures that are in place now though.
    That's my point, since supermarkets are now the one place where large crowds gather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    GM228 wrote: »
    Testing per day of 4500 will be available next week compared to 2000 odd now.

    Next week is tomorrow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Allinall wrote: »
    CEO of the HSE on RTE news now

    Terrible speaker for someone in such a high position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Thank you for that constructive post.

    In a German-owned supermarket last week, there were no sanitiser points, nothing to wipe off the shopping carts, no guidelines/instructions, and zero physical distancing aids e.g. yellow strips on the floor.
    There were also too many people in the shop, as there was nobody at the entrance limiting shoppers.

    Some supermarket chains were late to the game in initiating corrective measures. But as seen in other posts on this thread, it is the smaller shops that are also struggling with these issues today, which is why I recommended government involvement e.g. public service announcements.

    You should report them to the guards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    jackboy wrote: »
    Yes, that topic has shown how strong propaganda is. Many on this thread have continued to say how masks don’t work in the face of overwhelming evidence that they reduce the risk of contracting the virus.

    The powers that be should have been more truthful with the public... they should just have said from the start that there is a shortage of masks and that they should be reserved for the frontline in this battle against the virus.

    Making out that you need a the equivalent of a PhD in putting on and taking off a mask was quite frankly ridiculous. One look at the streets of the Asian countries, who have been successful in containing the virus, is proof enough that masks work.

    The cynic in me also thinks that western governments, having invested so much in all those 'Big Brother' CCTV cameras and facial recognition software, are not so keen on people wearing masks in public. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Terrible speaker for someone in such a high position.

    It’s what he says that counts. Not how it is said.

    Is it the dublin accent upsetting you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    voluntary wrote: »
    Next week is tomorrow?
    Don't think he said that, more like from next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Allinall wrote: »
    It’s what he says that counts. Not how it is said.

    Is it the dublin accent upsetting you?

    No. Not at all. I agree but I just think his communication skills could do with some improvement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Terrible speaker for someone in such a high position.
    Had to switch off. Could barely hear him and the accent would give a Panadol a headache.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Had to switch off. Could barely hear him and the accent would give a Panadol a headache.

    They’ll miss you something terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,003 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Selfish people do not care.

    No doubt she'll describe her self as no nonsense, which is often a giveaway the person is a muppet in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    So hold on basically 20% of PPE isn't fit for use but they will use it anyway or did i get that wrong ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Had to switch off. Could barely hear him and the accent would give a Panadol a headache.
    Had to crank up the volume but he's fine, accent and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Terrible speaker for someone in such a high position.

    yeah that matters


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Why is the presser in a warehouse? More spin and bluster. “Look at all the supplies we have”. Ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Terrible speaker for someone in such a high position.

    I would imagine his qualifications such as his MBA and BA got him the position rather than his ability to speak at a live conference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Why is the presser in a warehouse? More spin and bluster. “Look at all the supplies we have”. Ffs.

    Yeah.

    They should have held it in the Phoenix Park.

    Ffs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    So hold on basically 20% of PPE isn't fit for use but they will use it anyway or did i get that wrong ?

    Will be used for other roles where appropriate I think.

    Surprised nobody has asked will they get a 20% refund or a 20% bump on the order!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    So hold on basically 20% of PPE isn't fit for use but they will use it anyway or did i get that wrong ?
    In this batch there is a proportion, but has been addressed for future batches with manufacturer. Cormican will explain in a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    GM228 wrote: »
    I would imagine his qualifications such as his MBA and BA got him the position rather than his ability to speak at a live conference.

    Be that as it may, he should be better able to communicate his message to the public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Why is the presser in a warehouse? More spin and bluster. “Look at all the supplies we have”. Ffs.

    They should of held it in the pub!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat



    The cynic in me also thinks that western governments, having invested so much in all those 'Big Brother' CCTV cameras and facial recognition software, are not so keen on people wearing masks in public. ;)

    If anything China and some other far eastern countries, like Singapore, have a much more surveillance orientated regime and CCTV everywhere yet face masks are more prevalent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Danzy wrote: »
    No doubt she'll describe her self as no nonsense, which is often a giveaway the person is a muppet in real life.

    I think she sees this as an opportunity to do away with the brother


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Allinall wrote: »
    Yeah.

    They should have held it in the Phoenix Park.

    Ffs

    Why not have it in the same place they always have it? It’s a PR move. You’ll also notice that there’s no work going on while the press conference is going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Covid-19: Dept of Health reports 17 more deaths and 331 new cases confirmed.

    That was yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Why is the presser in a warehouse? More spin and bluster. “Look at all the supplies we have”. Ffs.
    It might be a bit obvious but all of this is preferable to the online speculation and conclusions about the HSE response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,387 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Interesting that people are complaining about how this person speaks and his location. Cos like that's extremely important.


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