CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

Sean 18

And while we all stay locked down and people sick and dying their opening up the wet markets in Wuhan to make another virus for us why aren't they all f******g closed down?

citysights

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You sanitise your hands after touching it...

Yeah but you could argue that there is a heavy virual load on the top of that hand sanitizer, from different people repeatedly touching it. Could be wrong of course.

tobefrank321

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

But to be fair, the people in those countries are far less accepting of state authority than we are in Ireland.

Maybe so. But in Ireland when the usual 10% d*ckheads in the population break the regulations, the government brings in tougher regulations that punishes everyone. At least in Italy and France the d*ckheads get hit in the pocket.

10000maniacs

paddythere wrote: »

He never said he shook hands with coronavirus patients

Yes he did.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/mar/27/i-shook-hands-with-everybody-says-boris-johnson-weeks-before-coronavirus-diagnosis-video

easypazz

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

I don't want to get seriously ill or die. So, I'm proud to be a 'lockdown-fetishist'.

You can lock yourself down though, and get everything delivered.

WomanSkirtFan8

Bob24 wrote: »

Tweet from Boris Johnson:

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1247137221167153153

I think what he's saying doesn't add up though. You don't get admitted to the hospital late on Sunday night and spend the night there for "routine tests". Especially when you are a head of governement.

Not saying he is about to die, but there is more to it than he is saying.

Bear in mind that he announced that he'd already been tested positive for CV19 so this is more than likely related to that despite what the UK news might say.:cool:

TheAsYLuMkeY

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Maybe so. But in Ireland when the usual 10% d*ckheads in the population break the regulations, the government brings in tougher regulations that punishes everyone. At least in Italy and France the d*ckheads get hit in the pocket.

I think personally the d*ckheads should be subject to internment without trial until its over.

If your acting the d*ck, your isolated in a cell for a couple of months.

Alf Veedersane

citysights wrote: »

Yeah but you could argue that there is a heavy virual load on the top of that hand sanitizer, from different people repeatedly touching it. Could be wrong of course.

And you could argue about the level of coverage on the hand when used. But I don't think it would necessarily be something that causes it to spread further.

Inquitus

Bob24 wrote: »

Tweet from Boris Johnson:

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1247137221167153153

I think what he's saying doesn't add up though. You don't get admitted to the hospital late on Sunday night and spend the night there for "routine tests". Especially when you are a head of governement.

Not saying he is about to die, but there is more to it than he is saying.

He didn't look too healthy last week

tobefrank321

Sean 18 wrote: »

And while we all stay locked down and people sick and dying their opening up the wet markets in Wuhan to make another virus for us why aren't they all f******g closed down?

Most people in the west are far more obsessed with criticising the likes of Trump, eg Pat Kenny. The Chinese will always get a free ride.

My guess is something like covid 19 will be a once every ten year event, if the Chinese keep the wet markets open.

What's worrying is that something like it could spread to household pets, in other words it keeps jumping species. In time a large number of species could have it.

So yeh, thanks China.

Bob24

facehugger99 wrote: »

Herd immunity is the ultimate goal - a vaccine will take far too long - we need a faster spread.

1) We actually don't even have certainty that if there is such thing has heard immunity as the virus hasn't been around for long and we don't fully understand it (the antiviral load might decrease overtime, it could mutate, etc).
2) Given our current capacity to take care of sick people, when you are saying "we need a faster spread" you are also saying that you accept an exponential increase of the death figures. You might be aware of it and OK with it, but it certainly wouldn't be a consensual view.

caveat emptor

Bob24 wrote: »

Tweet from Boris Johnson:

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1247137221167153153

I think what he's saying doesn't add up though. You don't get admitted to the hospital late on Sunday night and spend the night there for "routine tests". Especially when you are a head of governement.

Not saying he is about to die, but there is more to it than he is saying.

Yeah it's clear the doctors which would have undoubtedly been the best were worried he could deteriorate quickly so best to be in a hospital setting. Oxygen was probably administered (see what I did there) at home but he could have deteriorated quickly hence the move.

Glad to see he is taking it on the chin. Real Leadership being shown.
"Don’t Ask Anyone To Do Anything You Wouldn't Do"

In all seriousness I hope he is ok.

Rob A. Bank

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Most people in the west are far more obsessed with criticising the likes of Trump, eg Pat Kenny. The Chinese will always get a free ride.

My guess is something like covid 19 will be a once every ten year event, if the Chinese keep the wet markets open.

What's worrying is that something like it could spread to household pets, in other words it keeps jumping species. In time a large number of species could have it.

So yeh, thanks China.

Yawn !

callaway92

Inquitus wrote: »

He didn't look too healthy last week

That's the most normal photo of Boris Johnson I've ever seen.

joe40

Anita Blow wrote: »

As a doctor I can confirm this is horse****.

COVID teams are extremely busy and more staff are redeployed to cover the COVID service each week. Non-COVID services have been largely wound down over the past two weeks (primarily all surgical specialities) in which they became quieter as electives were cancelled and staff were awaiting deployment. That has now happened.

The response has been absolutely proportionate. In the space of 3 weeks my own hospital has gone from one COVID ward to six.

Thank you, its great when people who know what they're talking about counteract nonsense online.

The non covid stuff will eventually need to be dealt with. I was listening to a doctor today using the example of foot treatment for diabetic patient. This is important ongoing work which has virtually stopped. This can lead to serious complications including amputation, but easily managed at an early stage.
Loads of examples like this.

Sean 18

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Most people in the west are far more obsessed with criticising the likes of Trump, eg Pat Kenny. The Chinese will always get a free ride.

My guess is something like covid 19 will be a once every ten year event, if the Chinese keep the wet markets open.

What's worrying is that something like it could spread to household pets, in other words it keeps jumping species. In time a large number of species could have it.

So yeh, thanks China.

When all this ends surely something will be done about them wet markets their hardly gonna sit back and do nothing if its from them markets you could almost call it an act of terrorism

tobefrank321

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Yawn !

Strazdas

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Restrictions won't be lifted on vulnerable categories.
People will still work from home where possible.
Gloves and masks will remain common place as well as limits on going into shops.
Funerals will still be limited in size. Weddings might be too if they go ahead.

A number of shops will be allowed re-open. Possibly restaurants if limits can be set. Pubs won't reopen anytime soon.

Flight routes won't increase and private bus services will remain closed. State exams will go ahead but schools will remain closed until at least September.

CV19 will still spread but at a lower speed than before.

But the government will seriously need to up its game with testing and contact tracing. The testing has so far been very patchy. Good some weeks, bad the next.

Initially yes, but you could find restrictions loosening considerably every four weeks or so. There would be no need for extreme social distancing measures if there are only a few Covid cases circulating in Ireland by mid summer (if there was any sign of a problem starting to develop again, they could simply reintroduce the restrictions).

Banning weddings and funerals etc could not be justified if there were only a very small number of Covid cases circulating around the country.

tobefrank321

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Most people in the west are far more obsessed with criticising the likes of Trump, eg Pat Kenny. The Chinese will always get a free ride.

My guess is something like covid 19 will be a once every ten year event, if the Chinese keep the wet markets open.

What's worrying is that something like it could spread to household pets, in other words it keeps jumping species. In time a large number of species could have it.

So yeh, thanks China.

Yeah, they gave us swine flu and now this. And pig farms are still open there. It's a disgrace.

is_that_so

breadmonster wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/genetics-shed-light-on-origins-of-irish-strains-of-covid-19-1.4221383

so looks like most of our cases came from Cheltenham, celtic match in copenhagen + some from boston

It doesn't draw that conclusion at all on Cheltenham. The articles states that it could have originated here.

igCorcaigh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, they gave us swine flu and now this. And pig farms are still open there. It's a disgrace.

Didn't swine flu start in the US?

is_that_so

flashforward wrote: »

Does this mean we will be getting results from ~3500 test/day starting from today?

2000 from German Labs
~1500 from Irish Labs

If so we can expect to see the 'jump' to ~700 daily cases

From this week.

Cork Boy 53

facehugger99 wrote: »

We locked down a few weeks too early. We should have allowed more spread in the community first. The hospitals are all seriously quiet and they're admitting fairly non-serious cases to ICU as there is so much spare capacity.

The Govt. as usual overreacted, seemingly in response to the hysteria merchants on social media. They will need to seriously consider a relaxing of the restrictions very soon.

Herd immunity is the ultimate goal - a vaccine will take far too long - we need a faster spread.

Absolutely disgraceful comments. You should hang your head in shame after posting this nonsense.

NegativeCreep

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

I think personally the d*ckheads should be subject to internment without trial until its over.

If your acting the d*ck, your isolated in a cell for a couple of months.

:rolleyes:

Good luck with that.

tobefrank321

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, they gave us swine flu and now this. And pig farms are still open there's. It's a disgrace.

They gave us Sars and covid19 and the Asian flu of 1957 and probably others. Now they mightn't have been able to prevent some of those but they could and should have shut down their wet markets after sars in 2003. So yes they can blame no-one but themselves. Wet markets will be back up and running a year from now, they are an important part of the rural economy over there. Its only a matter of time before another covid virus comes out of them.

Sean 18

Any idea when bars would be able to open up they'll probably be the last to open I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed closed till Christmas I can't see social distancing being practised in pubs

igCorcaigh

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Didn't swine flu start in the US?

Yeah, and killed an estimated half a million.

is_that_so

GM228 wrote: »

Nothing yet.

Waiting on regulations from the AG according to this. I'm inclined to think he'd rather not do it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0328/1126960-minister-harris-restrictions/

Sean 18

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, they gave us swine flu and now this. And pig farms are still open there. It's a disgrace.

swine flu didn't come from China was it Mexico?

breadmonster

Just Saying wrote: »

Having read that link your post is totally irresponsible and nothing in the article is remotely related to what you posted.

ok removed it