CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

bilston

Dominic Rabb, the British Foreign Sec who is supposedly leading the UK govt has admitted he hasn't spoken to Boris Johnson since Saturday night.

Since then Rabb has led a Cobra meeting and done the daily news conference and yet hasn't spoken to Boris...that suggests Johnson is probably quite sick.

is_that_so

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Sorry but what does for modelling mean?

It's the model they use to project where we'll be, so adding more data, even older tests, will make that model more reliable.

poppers

SmTony just confirmed if you die and have covid 19 it reported as the cause even if you die of something else

0gac3yjefb5sv7

We may have peaked in terms of new cases daily which would be excellent news

ZX7R

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Sorry but what does for modelling mean?

The number would be factored in for the modeling of the curve.
The numbers would be also use in modeling the spread in community ECT

Fr_Dougal

Seamai wrote: »

Pay attention Father! ��

I was warming up for the Angelus.

easypazz

bilston wrote: »

Dominic Rabb, the British Foreign Sec who is supposedly leading the UK govt has admitted he hasn't spoken to Boris Johnson since Saturday night.

Since then Rabb has led a Cobra meeting and done the daily news conference and yet hasn't spoken to Boris...that suggests Johnson is probably quite sick.

Not great, on the Claire Byrne programme one night they should a clip of a woman in hospital describing here plight, so unless its serious you could still communicate reasonably.

branie2

RIP, the 16 people who died

Stheno

Has Colm Henry had a haircut??

john_doe.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That are known. That doesn't mean only 4. All 16 could have had underlying conditions, they're just not known.

Or else those people could have been perfectly healthy. This is killing young people who appear healthy , no one knows why. It could be genetic make up.

Naggdefy

Just to put some context on todays figures.

370 new cases is 78.07 per million Irish pop.
16 deaths is 3.38 deaths per million Irish pop.

The UK population is 66.44 million. If we apply our rates to them it's.

5,187 new cases and 225 deaths at their population. So in terms of new cases we have far from 'smashed it'.

AdrianG08

poppers wrote: »

SmTony just confirmed if you die and have covid 19 it reported as the cause even if you die of something else

Categorically not true and we have first hand evidence of this.

Mother in law had cancer and was also diabetic. She went to hospital with breathing difficulties and was tested in the hospital and returned a positive test. She was in isolation ward on oxygen and passed away (but was never in ICU). She was 100% not included in the figures, this was the week before last.

Strazdas

Celia Sweet Snowmobile wrote: »

We may have peaked in terms of new cases daily which would be excellent news

Tony says we should have a very clear idea by this weekend where this is heading and they should be able to do accurate prediction models by that point.

JP Liz V1

poppers wrote: »

SmTony just confirmed if you die and have covid 19 it reported as the cause even if you die of something else

Are any post mortem being done, exact cause of death for certificate?

speckle

Sam Russell wrote: »

The UK did use BCG in the past but dropped it when TB ceased to be common.

Not sure of dates.

Perhaps the use of BCG is why 90% of deaths here are over 65 years old. When did routine BCG vaccinations start being given?

I think mass vacination in ireland from 1950s. Because of a major TB breakout. In 1995 booster stopped. Unable for it to be sourced from 2015 onwards. This is not to say people didnt receive it earlier than the 1950s.

As I posted earlier if you got it as a baby in 1950 you would be c70 now. Or say as a 10 year old you would be c80 etc.

Some people pointing out gaps in Bcg vacination in Cork. Some people like myself have an inate immmunity. normally because our pregnant mothers had it.

No idea if you have had TB and recovered if this gives the same level of immmunity.

Some early trials started over 2 weeks ago.
Will try and source links which I saved.

Rob A. Bank

INMO Trolley Watch figures for April 6th 2020

7 beds short in Irish hospitals today, only 1 or 2 in all hospitals.

https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

Bushmaster64

I guess Ireland's peak is going to be stretched out over a few weeks. Death rate and new cases seem very consistent for awhile now.

Arghus

What does "top tier" actually mean?

JRant

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1247207566632943616?s=19

He also added in that they would require the lab capacity to be fully up to lift any restrictions

They'll never be lifted so

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Strazdas wrote: »

Tony says we should have a very clear idea by this weekend where this is heading and they should be able to do accurate prediction models by that point.

Great news. It's nice to know at least we are getting through the worst of it now so that some progress is being made even though there's a lot left to go.

Jim_Hodge

facehugger99 wrote: »

Tiny number of cases again today.

Meanwhile 700,000 receiving income supports.

Govt. need to seriously reconsider the current strategy.

Are you just being deliberately inflammatory? How do you think the number of cases is being kept within a limit our health service can deal with.

Your vile attitude, thankfully doesn't reflect the vast majority of people in the country.

gmisk

Naggdefy wrote: »

Just to put some context on todays figures.

370 new cases is 78.07 per million Irish pop.
16 deaths is 3.38 deaths per million Irish pop.

The UK population is 66.44 million. If we apply our rates to them it's.

5,187 new cases and 225 deaths at their population. So in terms of new cases we have far from 'smashed it'.

We are doing much more testing per head seemingly than the UK.
So the new cases aren't really comparable.

marilynrr

Brianmwalker wrote: »

I don't understand the love of lower %s.it doesn't mean much.
Say you have 1000 cases then 100 so 10% increase. Next days you have 101,102,103, etc. % keeps going down. Actual number keeps going up!

It does mean something.
When viruses get to the point that each new person spreads it to less than 1 other person then viruses start to die out.

Sierra Oscar

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are any post mortem being done, exact cause of death for certificate?

There’s no requirement for a test to be carried out on all deceased persons for Covid-19, GP’s can still complete a Death Notification Form in the normal manner which is a requirement for a death certificate to be issued.

However if a GP suspects Covid-19 was a factor then they are recommended to request a test to be carried out.

Arghus

There's a big strong whiff of bullsht of that "top tier" remark.

He essentially admitted that it was impossible to quantify that claim.

Worries me a great deal when I can see blatant spoofery from these guys.

spookwoman

We are about 37 in the rankings of testing per mil pop via worldometers

BanditLuke

BanditLuke wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous. It's because of people who are sitting at home and not mixing in the work place we are keeping this in check.

All big load of nothing according to them, been like that since the start of the threads and not going to change now, some people don't have anything in their lives other than money or being an edge lord.

Hrududu

Ficheall wrote: »

cailín capall -> bóthar cailín


Smh.

Ciunas bothar cailin bainne

eddie73

Naggdefy wrote: »

Just to put some context on todays figures.

370 new cases is 78.07 per million Irish pop.
16 deaths is 3.38 deaths per million Irish pop.

The UK population is 66.44 million. If we apply our rates to them it's.

5,187 new cases and 225 deaths at their population. So in terms of new cases we have far from 'smashed it'.

That is assuming that Britain and ourselves are on par re testing.
Also, do the uk report nursing home deaths/underlying conditions as covid fatalities as we do?

I think that we are where we need to be. It's not perfect but its almost a week into April and we are not in meltdown numbers. We are far from out of the woods, but compared to where we were predicted to be at 3 weeks ago, we are in much better shape. (60,000 assuming doubling every 3 days).

Its also interesting to see a doctor draw attention to the obvious futility of wearing gloves publicly. they are only useful if you throw them away after each shop you visit.

jackboy

john_doe. wrote: »

Or else those people could have been perfectly healthy. This is killing young people who appear healthy , no one knows why. It could be genetic make up.

The seasonal flu also kills an odd young person that appears healthy. I think these rare events are not unexpected for many illnesses.