American response

Inquitus

hetuzozaho wrote: »

TikTok I believe is the screenshot you are looking at

Thanks I am far too old for the mysterious ways of Tik Tok, leave that to my 10 yo

Trump has also been given Dexamethasone, sounds like they're trying every drug aside from Hydroxychloroquine... that said I have seen some papers that show some potential of HCQ to reduce the severity of infection, key seems to be using the normal therapeutic dose as opposed to the higher dose used in many trials.

ceadaoin.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Trump has also been given Dexamethasone, sounds like they're trying every drug aside from Hydroxychloroquine...

That's standard treatment for anything other than mild cases , where supplemental oxygen is needed, or where doctors think the person is at risk of deterioration and is in line with cdc recommendations

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/immune-based-therapy/immunomodulators/corticosteroids/

Here are the treatment guidelines from a hospital in Massachusetts. Pretty similar to what they are doing with trump. They obviously think he is at risk of deteriorating

https://www.massgeneral.org/assets/MGH/pdf/news/coronavirus/mass-general-COVID-19-treatment-guidance.pdf

Happydays2020

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That's standard treatment for anything other than mild cases , where supplemental oxygen is needed, or where doctors think the person is at risk of deterioration and is in line with cdc recommendations

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/immune-based-therapy/immunomodulators/corticosteroids/

Here are the treatment guidelines from a hospital in Massachusetts. Pretty similar to what they are doing with trump. They obviously think he is at risk of deteriorating

https://www.massgeneral.org/assets/MGH/pdf/news/coronavirus/mass-general-COVID-19-treatment-guidance.pdf

Are they not saying that he is improving and will be back in the office tomorrow.

ceadaoin.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That's standard treatment for anything other than mild cases , where supplemental oxygen is needed, or where doctors think the person is at risk of deterioration and is in line with cdc recommendations

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/immune-based-therapy/immunomodulators/corticosteroids/

Here are the treatment guidelines from a hospital in Massachusetts. Pretty similar to what they are doing with trump. They obviously think he is at risk of deteriorating

https://www.massgeneral.org/assets/MGH/pdf/news/coronavirus/mass-general-COVID-19-treatment-guidance.pdf

Seems to be advised for treatment only in severe disease, not mild or moderate. He must have been struggling.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1312823231586467841

ShineOn7

New York have handled this very well

Re: Trump

So he's likely getting out tomorrow to return to the White House

Did the new cocktail of drugs do wonders for him? He's 74 years old and looks like he'd struggle to say "gym" let alone go there

Hopefully it's a great sign for treatments going forward

gmisk

ShineOn7 wrote: »

New York have handled this very well

Re: Trump

So he's likely getting out tomorrow to return to the White House

Did the new cocktail of drugs do wonders for him? He's 74 years old and looks like he'd struggle to say "gym" let alone go there

Hopefully it's a great sign for treatments going forward

New York has been seriously locked down for a really really long time. I think restaurants only opened very recently for internal dining at 25 percent capacity.
Mask are mandatory in public I think at all times.
People in Ireland have had it lucky in comparison.

ShineOn7

gmisk wrote: »

I think restaurants only opened very recently for internal dining at 25 percent capacity.
Mask are mandatory in public I think at all times.

As it should be in Ireland too

"shure it'll be grand"

gmisk

ShineOn7 wrote: »

As it should be in Ireland too

"shure it'll be grand"

Oh I entirely agree.
There are still plenty of people going about in shops here with no mask.

ceadaoin.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Seems to be advised for treatment only in severe disease, not mild or moderate. He must have been struggling.

yes, well once the patient has required additional oxygen, as he did, then it is a recommended treatment. Maybe he has progressed to pneumonia? Didnt the doctor say that lung scans had some findings but "nothing unexpected" or something like that?

ceadaoin.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

yes, well once the patient has required additional oxygen, as he did, then it is a recommended treatment. Maybe he has progressed to pneumonia? Didnt the doctor say that lung scans had some findings but "nothing unexpected" or something like that?

Very possible he has pneumonia, could have checked his chest and done some scans expecting it. Would explain the phrasing.

ShineOn7

I completely waved off the "he's faking it" notions before

But you would wonder when you see this kind of nonsense from him

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070

ShineOn7

Twitter gone into meltdown since he Tweeted that

He got the reaction he wanted

https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1313187424827138048

Tenzor07

All very suspect:

NO medical charts
NO medical records
NO x-rays or CT scans
NO date of when he last tested negative
NO proof he has Covid
NO proof of anything

froog

expectationlost wrote: »

so Kellyanne Conway has it, and her daughter said she lied about it told her she tested negative so didn't distance herself from her and then it turns out she tested positive https://twitter.com/GarnerChristina/status/1312212932088872960/photo/1

and now she has it

the daughter hates her apparently. kellyanne quit her job over it just a few weeks ago so i wouldn't be believing too much from her.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070

Hand in Your Pants

I see the tin foil hatters are theorising that Trump never had covid in the first place and that his team of doctors were all lying. So many conspiracy theorists knocking around these days on both sides of the divide.

Sonny678

I wouldnt put Trump in charge of an empty pram. A racist facist gangster who has the mindset of a 15 year old bully in the school yard.

Tenzor07

Hand in Your Pants wrote: »

I see the tin foil hatters are theorising that Trump never had covid in the first place and that his team of doctors were all lying. So many conspiracy theorists knocking around these days on both sides of the divide.

Pretty weak....

Someone who questions the narrative: Tin foil hat
Raises opposing points: Jim Corr fan
Opposes some of the Government statements: Gemma O'D /Shinner...


Trump may have contracted COVID-19 a few days before the Rose Garden Supreme Court packing event. He was asymptomatic at the time - and those are the days one is most contagious. He knew he had it before the debate, that’s why he didn’t show up for - and refused - the Covid testing that the Debate Commission required just hours before the debate. The following day, Wednesday, a press pool reporter said Trump fell asleep on the plane. “He NEVER falls asleep when traveling domestically in Air Force One.” Whatever doctor knew he was positive and let him be in contact with others must have his license stripped. The symptoms they’ve admitted to Trump having Thursday night means that he was infected 5 to 7 days before that — and carried it wherever he went.

Harry Palmr

That tweet will send at least some of his core audience to thier graves.

expectationlost

froog wrote: »

the daughter hates her apparently. kellyanne quit her job over it just a few weeks ago so i wouldn't be believing too much from her.

you believe the professional liar?

expectationlost

Inquitus wrote: »

That's a fake, there is no blue tick account by the quoted name, if her daughter is on twitter its likely this account with the extra y on the end.

https://twitter.com/claudiamconwayy?lang=en

thats not twitter its tiktok

3d4life

New York State approach to CV-19 has been very effective.

This is the latest from there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-cxgfudHUo

Beasty

Threads merged

JP Liz V1

Six states — Arkansas, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin and Wyoming — set records for coronavirus-related hospitalizations on Tuesday.

A seventh, Oklahoma, reported its highest count of hospitalizations since late July.

ceadaoin.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Six states — Arkansas, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin and Wyoming — set records for coronavirus-related hospitalizations on Tuesday.

A seventh, Oklahoma, reported its highest count of hospitalizations since late July.

Those states have remained relatively untouched by covid so far. The US is a series of seperate outbreaks on different timelines and it seems everyone gets their turn. The states that saw surges over the summer are declining in hospitalisations and declining or holding steady at a lower rate of new cases.

Christy42

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Those states have remained relatively untouched by covid so far. The US is a series of seperate outbreaks on different timelines and it seems everyone gets their turn. The states that saw surges over the summer are declining in hospitalisations and declining or holding steady at a lower rate of new cases.

3% of Arkansas and North Dakota have or have had the virus. That didn't happen overnight. In fact all are above the 1% barrier. Ireland has had multiple surges and isn't at that point yet.

If they were untouched till recently they have had some seriously bad last few weeks.

Leroy42

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Those states have remained relatively untouched by covid so far. The US is a series of seperate outbreaks on different timelines and it seems everyone gets their turn. The states that saw surges over the summer are declining in hospitalisations and declining or holding steady at a lower rate of new cases.

Trump said they had this all unders control back in March. Pence was leading the task force, Kusher said they were very happy with how they had dealt with it.

Now we are supposed to believe that this is completely outside their control, that their is almost nothing that could have been done? Despite the evidence from countries like New Zealand.

One can almost give an excuse when it hit NY, the type of city, it was the first. But 7 months later you are comfortable that other parts of the country are now suffering the same fate and that nothing could have been done to stop it?

JP Liz V1

Senator Lindsey Graham reportedly refused to take a test for Covid