American response

drunkmonkey · 17-05-2021 7:23pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

"Let it rip" = get a vaccine into the arms of at least half your population.

It was nearly 3mts ago they lifted the mask mandates and let everyone open 100%. It was considered madness at the time.
Half the population aren't fully vaccinated and were no where near it back then.

Jim_Hodge · 17-05-2021 7:25pm

Their 7 day average is still over 2000.

MrStuffins · 17-05-2021 7:25pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1394090593672994822?s=20

388 cases no deaths..good going since they scrapped mandates and opened 100% on the 2nd of March just before spring break.

They has 7240 cases and 275 deaths that day.

So the vaccine is having the desired effect.

Great news!

Buddy Bubs · 17-05-2021 7:27pm

Is someone really tweeting a single days figures and bragging? Presumably if 7 day average is high as someone above said, this is more about paperwork than covid.

JPup · 17-05-2021 7:28pm

I have a friend who lives in Texas. One of the interesting things about how they do things there is there isn't a single authority making decisions like there is here (i.e. the national government). Some restrictions were placed on a federal basis, some at state level, some by the local mayor and then sometimes the local county would have jurisdiction. So gyms would be open in some areas but closed in others etc.

Some things, like bars, stayed open much more than here whereas schools tended to be shut much longer than here. So a mixed bag really. It's too simplistic to say they let it rip since March.

Deeper Blue · 17-05-2021 7:28pm

I've got family in Texas, by no means did they "let it rip", however they were apparently one of the loosest States in terms of restrictions.

This is great news in the context of the vaccines and their effectiveness.

Marty Bird · 17-05-2021 7:29pm

ted1 wrote: »

Population = 29 million

43. Texas
Doses distributed to state: 28,654,065
Doses administered: 21,179,788
Percentage of distributed vaccines that have been administered: 73.92

I fail to see the point of your post

They didn’t have that amount done when they opened everything up and dropped the masks.

pjohnson · 17-05-2021 7:31pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

They didn’t have that amount done when they opened everything up and dropped the masks.

Well they didnt have zero deaths then like today either so???

prunudo · 17-05-2021 7:31pm

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Their 7 day average is still over 2000.

Their population is 6 times ours. So they're doing better than us.

odyssey06 · 17-05-2021 7:33pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

They didn’t have that amount done when they opened everything up and dropped the masks.

They have had 2.9 million registered cases.
Likely the true figure is a good bit higher.

Added to the vaccinations that were done at the time its a significant percentage of their population.

NIAC Fanboy · 17-05-2021 7:36pm

JPup wrote: »

I have a friend who lives in Texas. One of the interesting things about how they do things there is there isn't a single authority making decisions like there is here (i.e. the national government). Some restrictions were placed on a federal basis, some at state level, some by the local mayor and then sometimes the local county would have jurisdiction. So gyms would be open in some areas but closed in others etc.

Some things, like bars, stayed open much more than here whereas schools tended to be shut much longer than here. So a mixed bag really. It's too simplistic to say they let it rip since March.

Just shows how draconian NPHET's one size fits all strategy was here.

I fully accepted a total lockdown for the month of January but there was a lot of scope to open things after that, like construction, and outdoor dining where no alcohol was served (sitting outside a coffee shop in the afternoon for example)

Non essential retail for click and collect another.

Our policy was akin to ban people from driving completely to reduce road deaths.

Marty Bird · 17-05-2021 7:36pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

They have had 2.9 million registered cases.
Likely the true figure is a good bit higher.

Added to the vaccinations that were done at the time its a significant percentage of their population.

The point is with opening it all up and dropping the mask surely they would have been set for another wave with a much lower base of people vaccinated back then.

odyssey06 · 17-05-2021 7:39pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

The point is with opening it all up and dropping the mask surely they would have been set for another wave with a much lower base of people vaccinated back then.

Their lower base isnt as low as it looks when you add in the millions of people previously infected in earlier waves who would still have prior immunity.

NIAC Fanboy · 17-05-2021 7:40pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

The point is with opening it all up and dropping the mask surely they would have been set for another wave with a much lower base of people vaccinated back then.

Another wave is just a BS line peddled by NPHET et al.

Constantly trying to frighten people.

RTE gave them the platform.

The government were and are too scared to say stop.

Here we are and in 3 weeks 6 people will be allowed sit outside after giving their names to staff for tracing, a rubbish concept.

Penn · 17-05-2021 7:40pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It was nearly 3mts ago they lifted the mask mandates and let everyone open 100%. It was considered madness at the time.
Half the population aren't fully vaccinated and were no where near it back then.

So half the population ARE fully vaccinated. And the fact that they were no where near that figure three months ago is irrelevant because you're saying that today's figures (where half the population are vaccinated) is the cause for celebration.

Percentage of population fully vaccinated goes up, number of cases goes down. That makes absolute sense.

MrStuffins · 17-05-2021 7:41pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

The point is with opening it all up and dropping the mask surely they would have been set for another wave with a much lower base of people vaccinated back then.

So you use a single day's data to suit you, and then "back then" when it suits you.

All this shows is that the vaccines are working. It's great news and encouraging for the rest of that country and the world

NIAC Fanboy · 17-05-2021 7:42pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Their lower base isnt as low as it looks when you add in the millions of people previously infected in earlier waves who would still have prior immunity.

Same as here of course, we don't really know how many people have been infected and not tested.

Lumen · 17-05-2021 7:42pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It was nearly 3mts ago they lifted the mask mandates and let everyone open 100%. It was considered madness at the time.
Half the population aren't fully vaccinated and were no where near it back then.

How many first doses had they done when they lifted the mask mandates?

MrStuffins · 17-05-2021 7:43pm

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Same as here of course, we don't really know how many people have been infected and not tested.

But we DO know that the vaccines are having a huge effect.

Just like in Texas

NIAC Fanboy · 17-05-2021 7:44pm

Penn wrote: »

Percentage of population fully vaccinated goes up, number of cases goes down. That makes absolute sense.

You must have gotten straight A's in the leaving to figure that one out.

odyssey06 · 17-05-2021 7:44pm

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Same as here of course, we don't really know how many people have been infected and not tested.

Texas seems to have twice the rate of declared cases as Ireland.
If it was lax in restrictions in earlier waves v Ireland we can reasonably expect it has a far higher undeclared rate too.

NIAC Fanboy · 17-05-2021 7:45pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

But we DO know that the vaccines are having a huge effect.

Just like in Texas

Yes we all get that.

MrStuffins · 17-05-2021 7:46pm

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Yes we all get that.

Case closed so!

drunkmonkey · 17-05-2021 8:10pm

Lumen wrote: »

How many first doses had they done when they lifted the mask mandates?

I'd guess sub 10%, when's a reasonable time to cut loose and open everything like Texas did?

MrStuffins · 17-05-2021 8:11pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'd guess sub 10%, when's a reasonable time to cut loose and open everything like Texas did?

You're guessing.

Do you don't know? Is here a lack of data?

greenfarm · 17-05-2021 8:18pm

High health season

Texas had similar cases this time last year, it will rise again as Autumn approaches

Vaccines will have helped a bit as well obviously.

drunkmonkey · 17-05-2021 8:23pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

You're guessing.

Do you don't know? Is here a lack of data?

Can't seem to find it, I've probably way over estimated, 5% maybe?

Beasty · 17-05-2021 8:23pm

Threads merged

MrStuffins · 17-05-2021 8:28pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Can't seem to find it, I've probably way over estimated, 5% maybe?

So you were guessing before, but now you're guessing down?

You have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about.

Lumen · 17-05-2021 8:29pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

You're guessing.

Do you don't know? Is here a lack of data?

I'll do monkey's homework again because he's drunk

https://tabexternal.dshs.texas.gov/t/THD/views/COVID-19VaccineinTexasDashboard/VaccineDosesAdministered?%3Aorigin=card_share_link&%3Aembed=y&%3AisGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y&%3AdeepLinkingDisabled=y

Looks like they've been doing about 1.2m a week so would have been at around 8m doses/29m people at the start of March, or 28 doses/100, which is where we were at the end of April, albeit with 5% extra of the population with immunity from past infection.

I don't know how good a comparison it is, maybe variants and other factors make a difference.

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