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Gangland Shootings part 3 - Read OP before posting - updated 27/12/23

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    bigsuge1 wrote: »
    I’ll never understand why the K family didn’t ever pack it in once they had made tens and tens of millions they no doubt had and live a happy life (could be more € and most likely is but that reinforces my point - how much do you really need?!). I know these type peoples brains don’t work like ours but why they continued/continue doing what they do past the point of needing to actually do it baffles me as they risk MAJOR prison sentences year after year when they could have sailed into the sunset many moons ago before it went tits up.

    I suppose the easiest way to explain why, would be to ask you how much it would take for you to quit your life?

    10million, 50million, 100million.

    No matter how much you earn, you increase your spending, your social circle and your need to ensure more money is coming in to fund the lifestyle.

    If you were to analyze the earnings of the higher levels (not just crime, legitimate business too), there’s a lot of networking and splashing the cash...spending to accumulate (convince others with money to “invest” in projects, promising returns etc....high level wealth is essentially a collection of Ponzi schemes earning money off the people at the bottom who invest and loose).... have a look at how charities get investment, it’s fundraisers and networking with those that have “connections”, check out why ceo’s of charities are paid high sums of money, to fund the networking lifestyle needed to get large investments from people with money.

    People at the upper end like the “k” family cannot just quit because they have moved up a wrung on the ladder and are networking on a higher level than previously, if they quit, their income and investment just stops, so their “walk away money” would be limited to several million, it would not be possible to stay in their current social circle and what would they do .... start again ? They are invested in the life, they keep going until jail or death... or a combination of both. (Assuming living the quiet life on a random remote island isn’t an option)


  • Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭smodgley




  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭Figel Narage


    I suppose the easiest way to explain why, would be to ask you how much it would take for you to quit your life?

    10million, 50million, 100million.

    No matter how much you earn, you increase your spending, your social circle and your need to ensure more money is coming in to fund the lifestyle.

    If you were to analyze the earnings of the higher levels (not just crime, legitimate business too), there’s a lot of networking and splashing the cash...spending to accumulate (convince others with money to “invest” in projects, promising returns etc....high level wealth is essentially a collection of Ponzi schemes earning money off the people at the bottom who invest and loose).... have a look at how charities get investment, it’s fundraisers and networking with those that have “connections”, check out why ceo’s of charities are paid high sums of money, to fund the networking lifestyle needed to get large investments from people with money.

    People at the upper end like the “k” family cannot just quit because they have moved up a wrung on the ladder and are networking on a higher level than previously, if they quit, their income and investment just stops, so their “walk away money” would be limited to several million, it would not be possible to stay in their current social circle and what would they do .... start again ? They are invested in the life, they keep going until jail or death... or a combination of both. (Assuming living the quiet life on a random remote island isn’t an option)

    I think it's understated that it's hard to walk away from a life of crime at the upper levels as you know too much about other criminals and so many depend on you for keeping the operation a float that it seems like it's hard to just walk away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    smodgley wrote: »

    Ireland should be grateful for DK wtf. Wouldn’t expect anything else for BJS anyway. Can one person just say Well Done Daniel lol. Good video btw thanks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    After you order the death of someone you can't ever walk away
    You have to always stay ahead or above your enemies protected by your gang and their loyalty and ability to earn off you
    If dk walked away and quit,everyone connected to someone he killed would be gunning for him without fear of recrimination


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    How much is all this costing him
    Every boxer or promotor that's speaking out aren't doing it cheaply
    Biggest show if power I've ever seen


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Carioco


    Haladmirer wrote: »
    After you order the death of someone you can't ever walk away
    You have to always stay ahead or above your enemies protected by your gang and their loyalty and ability to earn off you
    If dk walked away and quit,everyone connected to someone he killed would be gunning for him without fear of recrimination

    Not just DK but everyone close to him

    Once he stops being useful to those working for him he is no longer protected by them.

    Once the money stops, the protection stops.


  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭Figel Narage


    Ireland should be grateful for DK wtf. Wouldn’t expect anything else for BJS anyway. Can one person just say Well Done Daniel lol. Good video btw thanks

    Jesus he's an idiot. I know he has to say positive things about him as he doesn't want to find out if he doesn't but he's so full of it angrily defending him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Jesus he's an idiot. I know he has to say positive things about him as he doesn't want to find out if he doesn't but he's so full of it angrily defending him.

    Cutting down our country in the process, what a tool is right. He’s not mentally all there, the stuff he was spouting is exactly why DK is where he is, too many on the pay roll glossing I’ve his murderous name, easy for outsiders who haven’t seen the devastation first hand in our country. This made me want to see him taken down more then ever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭PLATOBONG


    Greed

    You said It . A genetic attraction to Power, Greed and Money


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    All over mainstream UK media today

    How did DK think this was a good idea

    Ego ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭Random Account


    All over mainstream UK media today

    How did DK think this was a good idea

    Ego ?

    Glad to see it. Hopefully the **** is locked up soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭bigsuge1


    Haladmirer wrote: »
    How much is all this costing him
    Every boxer or promotor that's speaking out aren't doing it cheaply
    Biggest show if power I've ever seen

    Yeah it’s scary how more or less every one in the boxing world is backing him.

    On the MTK front how does washing the money work?

    Bar the big fighters like Fury, BJS and Frampton most fighters fight and get a purse of say 50k if they’re lucky and the ‘management’ take let’s say 20% so they have 10k of legit money off that fighter.. it just doesn’t seem like the scheme to launder the mega millions they have.

    Also there must be a financial incentive for all these fighters to come and join a company with a bad reputation due its links - do they get given big money to come and how is that possible as the company is trying to earn legit money not throw it away? unless fighters Are happy with backpacks of drugs money lol. Then you have the puppets all over the place on social media, even people like Jonny Nelson and the Sky crew talking them up everywhere that can’t be cheap either the out goings must be hilarious!

    Intriguing stuff none the less!


  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭Deco Barry


    bigsuge1 wrote: »
    Yeah it’s scary how more or less every one in the boxing world is backing him.

    On the MTK front how does washing the money work?

    Bar the big fighters like Fury, BJS and Frampton most fighters fight and get a purse of say 50k if they’re lucky and the ‘management’ take let’s say 20% so they have 10k of legit money off that fighter.. it just doesn’t seem like the scheme to launder the mega millions they have.

    Also there must be a financial incentive for all these fighters to come and join a company with a bad reputation due its links - do they get given big money to come and how is that possible as the company is trying to earn legit money not throw it away? unless fighters Are happy with backpacks of drugs money lol. Then you have the puppets all over the place on social media, even people like Jonny Nelson and the Sky crew talking them up everywhere that can’t be cheap either the out goings must be hilarious!

    Intriguing stuff none the less!

    Thats exactly it,they get paid in cash.....blood money,one of the mtk fighters not so long ago had a photo with big wads of cash in plastic,cancer swiftly told him to remove it


  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭high_tower


    Had to laugh at BJS video and mock outrage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    bigsuge1 wrote: »
    Yeah it’s scary how more or less every one in the boxing world is backing him.

    On the MTK front how does washing the money work?

    Bar the big fighters like Fury, BJS and Frampton most fighters fight and get a purse of say 50k if they’re lucky and the ‘management’ take let’s say 20% so they have 10k of legit money off that fighter.. it just doesn’t seem like the scheme to launder the mega millions they have.

    Its a good question. Would imagine the Bahrain royal family could provide a lot of the needed paperwork to clean money, they own and runs banks there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Chicoso


    All over mainstream UK media today

    How did DK think this was a good idea

    Ego ?

    Be a lot to do with it

    Everybody has something that trips them up

    Authorities and law enforcement will be viewing and opening files on him left right and centre


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭NorthCity


    Chicoso wrote: »
    Be a lot to do with it

    Everybody has something that trips them up

    Authorities and law enforcement will be viewing and opening files on him left right and centre

    No one can claim they were not aware of MTK's link to organised crime it is even mentioned on the wiki page . It will be interesting to see if Skysports and BTsports try to brazen it out and carry on as normal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTK_Global


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Un happy in rush


    NorthCity wrote: »
    No one can claim they were not aware of MTK's link to organised crime it is even mentioned on the wiki page . It will be interesting to see if Skysports and BTsports try to brazen it out and carry on as normal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTK_Global

    MTK is actually Meet the kinahans


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 judaspig


    bigsuge1 wrote: »
    I’ll never understand why the K family didn’t ever pack it in once they had made tens and tens of millions they no doubt had and live a happy life (could be more € and most likely is but that reinforces my point - how much do you really need?!). I know these type peoples brains don’t work like ours but why they continued/continue doing what they do past the point of needing to actually do it baffles me as they risk MAJOR prison sentences year after year when they could have sailed into the sunset many moons ago before it went tits up.

    You can't just tell the Mexicans, colombians and Turks that you aren't taking their gear anymore. That's not how it works in that world.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭Figel Narage


    judaspig wrote: »
    You can't just tell the Mexicans, colombians and Turks that you aren't taking their gear anymore. That's not how it works in that world.

    Yeah DK knows too much about them and his closer associates in order for them all to be cool with him retiring and if he did they would be worried about what happens to their buyer base now? Is he going to potentially go to the police and incriminate us? At the higher levels, there's no walking away from it


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Im surprised a smart Youtuber hasnt yet taken that professionally produced video of the Regency into editing and re-jigged it a bit by adding a few newspaper headlines and tv reports to it and then re-release it. Flip it on its head as it were.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Deco Barry wrote: »
    Thats exactly it,they get paid in cash.....blood money,one of the mtk fighters not so long ago had a photo with big wads of cash in plastic,cancer swiftly told him to remove it

    I wouldn't be too hard on the boxers themselves, they've worked hard to get where they are and dream of big paydays, and are promised big fights. Theres always been questionable money in boxing, the only reason it matters here to some is that it is DK's money, and he allegedly has been involved in a bloody feud that has killed many.

    What other options are there for the boxers? Say no and give up something that means everything to them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    All over mainstream UK media today

    How did DK think this was a good idea

    Ego ?

    Does he use a lot of his own product?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    begbysback wrote: »

    What other options are there for the boxers? Say no and give up something that means everything to them?

    Boxers not to blame, the sport can only be reformed by those at the top running it, probably zero chance of that happening if they are directly benefiting. Sure look at the Premier League approving Mohamed bin Salman as a fit individual to own a football club when the CIA directly pointed the finger at him for ordering the torture and dismemberment of Jamal Khlashoggi in the Saudi embassy in Istanbul.

    Still though its pretty cringeworthy watching these prize fighters coming out and licking Daniels hole on his instructions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Chicoso


    Yeah DK knows too much about them and his closer associates in order for them all to be cool with him retiring and if he did they would be worried about what happens to their buyer base now? Is he going to potentially go to the police and incriminate us? At the higher levels, there's no walking away from it

    You'd always be owing money to them

    Cash tied up and with seizures prob a couple of deals behind


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭John_D3


    Mtk boxers were contacted by there trainers and asked to share the regency video.

    Some of them hadn’t even watched it, just shared it. Its an awkward place for some off them, you defiantly can’t blame them, for some its there only chance of fulfilling a life dream.


  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭Deco Barry


    They're all scumbags,every single one of the especially the bigger names who would have made it without getting into bed with him


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah its the young lads who are chasing a dream who Id feel sorry for. They didnt sign up for this sh1t but if they dont go along with it they'll be cut.

    The likes of Mick Cnnlon or Tyson Fury should have a bit more self respect for their own careers and what they've achieved. They're at the top of their game and they dont need DK. To hear a colossus like Fury licking Daniels hole as if that fight could never happen without him was like something out of the twilight zone. Its pretty sad really, they've sold their souls for money made off the back of a drug cartel ordering murders on the streets of Dublin, they know this. And Conlon with the tattoo of Jesus around his neck, the hypocrite.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Its a good question. Would imagine the Bahrain royal family could provide a lot of the needed paperwork to clean money, they own and runs banks there.

    Can't imagine with all the resources at the Bahrain Royals disposal they'd be into washing cash for scum. Their leader Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa has done a lot for womens rights and is progressive.

    If the UAE boot him that's it in the region, he'll be off to Somalia next.


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