Gangland Shootings part 3 - Read OP before posting - updated 27/12/23

Don Logan

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Didn’t they cause the sack of Baltimore?

Nah man Blackwater and Saint Denis

UUJ_Lad

IRE60 wrote: »

From the indo: An All-Ireland winning GAA star is at the centre of the UK's biggest ever investigation into organised crime.

Peter Loughran - who won the Sam Maguire trophy with Tyrone in 2003 - is one of six Northern Irishmen facing charges arising from Operation Venetic led by the National Crime Agency (NCA).

The 45-year-old was arrested at his home near Dungannon on June 23 after the secretive EncroChat phone network was breached by a foreign government.

Oh the funs only beginning

This isn't too far from me, buying up loads of land....didn't go unnoticed.

Cute Hoor

UUJ_Lad wrote: »

This isn't too far from me, buying up loads of land....didn't go unnoticed.

Was it known locally what he was up to?
Has the Crossmaglen lad been named?

begbysback

MickyPearse wrote: »

Gardai and NCA only started this case against bomber in 2016. Which means it's likely they would have never come after him if it wasn't for the Hutch/Kinahan feud and we all know who is to blame for that starting.

My guess is Bomber is talking and thats why O'Driscoll was so confident about getting DK last week

It’s all getting a bit Alice in wonderland on this thread. Mr bomber seems to be of the old school and is likely to take his punishment on his own.

The rhetoric by authorities here towards DK seems to be that of “don’t come back to this country”, rather than “we’re coming to get you”. The last thing the Irish authorities want is DK on Irish soil, even in an irish prison. If they were making a solid case then we wouldn’t be reading any of this smoke screen in the media.

r93kaey5p2izun

What sort of timeline can we expect to see with the SCC? When are the pair arrested last week, Fowler and Keating, likely to be heard?

Intern.

So the encrochat did exactly the opposite of what it was meant to do, conceal messages from law enforcement

Do they ever learn?

Between the feud, the boxing promotion and the encrochat you'd nearly think they actually want to get busted

MrFlashy92

begbysback wrote: »

It’s all getting a bit Alice in wonderland on this thread. Mr bomber seems to be of the old school and is likely to take his punishment on his own.

The rhetoric by authorities here towards DK seems to be that of “don’t come back to this country”, rather than “we’re coming to get you”. The last thing the Irish authorities want is DK on Irish soil, even in an irish prison. If they were making a solid case then we wouldn’t be reading any of this smoke screen in the media.

I think it very unlikely that they don’t want to jail him here, it’d be their biggest win of modern times and nothing else even comes close. I do agree that there’s a lot of far out waffle being talked here though

UUJ_Lad

Intern. wrote: »

So the encrochat did exactly the opposite of what it was meant to do, conceal messages from law enforcement

Do they ever learn?

Between the feud, the boxing promotion and the encrochat you'd nearly think they actually want to get busted

Encrochat worked fine as a service. It was hacked to an unimaginable scale. It was always going to happen sooner or later.

Intern.

UUJ_Lad wrote: »

. It was always going to happen sooner or later.

Ya that was my point

UUJ_Lad

Cute Hoor wrote: »

Was it known locally what he was up to?
Has the Crossmaglen lad been named?

Wouldn't have been a surprise being in the game, the scale he was in will have surprised many though - owned a local bar at one stage which was run into the ground. Owns another, don't think in his name which is in a rural enough area obviously for a bit of washing.

I don't think the fella from Cross was named yet.

begbysback

MrFlashy92 wrote: »

I think it very unlikely that they don’t want to jail him here, it’d be their biggest win of modern times and nothing else even comes close. I do agree that there’s a lot of far out waffle being talked here though

Think about it, would having DK in an Irish jail prevent any further directing if crime? Absolutely not.

Would it escalate violence in a feud which has simmered down? Most likely.

What is the risk of bringing someone with unlimited funds before the scc? Well the scc is already questionable in itself, will it uphold against a number of top lawyers in the world? Untested.

It’s a no win game for the authorities, best they can hope for imo is DK doesn’t come back here.

gangstergossip

begbysback wrote: »

It’s all getting a bit Alice in wonderland on this thread. Mr bomber seems to be of the old school and is likely to take his punishment on his own.

The rhetoric by authorities here towards DK seems to be that of “don’t come back to this country”, rather than “we’re coming to get you”. The last thing the Irish authorities want is DK on Irish soil, even in an irish prison. If they were making a solid case then we wouldn’t be reading any of this smoke screen in the media.

Nobody knows what bombers doing but is strange when your looking at a stretch like that that you go guilty. Even if your on murder people go not guilty because you have nuthin to lose life if you go guilty or not so always worth the chance. The state want cancer on Irish soil bad there's enough evidence to charge him with the murder plots he was bon on the encros then Bon new. They have his messages from arakas phone and they have a lot from the encro servers. They have branno bugged talking him then you have smcg who can't do jail looking at life for duckegg who will talk if they even need his evidence. They been looking at bomber 4 years and he gave his own personnel handgun to that simpleton to kill jh and he killed innocent ton. Cancer be extradited 100% and will get life for directing a criminal organisation inside and outside the state maximum sentence is life and he will get the book thrown at him. Only thing now is that the Dutch and nca prob want him to but hopefully he's got in ireland

gangstergossip

begbysback wrote: »

Think about it, would having DK in an Irish jail prevent any further directing if crime? Absolutely not.

Would it escalate violence in a feud which has simmered down? Most likely.

What is the risk of bringing someone with unlimited funds before the scc? Well the scc is already questionable in itself, will it uphold against a number of top lawyers in the world? Untested.

It’s a no win game for the authorities, best they can hope for imo is DK doesn’t come back here.

Feud will be over and cancer be segregated for life ya think he be aloud out on a normal landing

gangstergossip

Un happy in rush wrote: »

I reckon he'll go the suicide route,, fingers crossed for that one of course haha

Hopefully not he don't deserve a quick way out

Cute Hoor

begbysback wrote: »

Think about it, would having DK in an Irish jail prevent any further directing if crime? Absolutely not.

Would it escalate violence in a feud which has simmered down? Most likely.

What is the risk of bringing someone with unlimited funds before the scc? Well the scc is already questionable in itself, will it uphold against a number of top lawyers in the world? Untested.

It’s a no win game for the authorities, best they can hope for imo is DK doesn’t come back here.

Much better if the tans or the Spanish got to him first, he'd get a longer sentence, would do tougher time, and save us a fortune.

begbysback

gangstergossip wrote: »

Nobody knows what bombers doing but is strange when your looking at a stretch like that that you go guilty. Even if your on murder people go not guilty because you have nuthin to lose life if you go guilty or not so always worth the chance. The state want cancer on Irish soil bad there's enough evidence to charge him with the murder plots he was born on the encros then Bon new. They have his messages from arakas phone and they have a lot from the encro servers. They have branno bugged talking him then you have smcg who can't do jail looking at life for duckegg who will talk if they even need his evidence. They been looking at bomber 4 years and he gave his own personnel handgun to that simpleton to kill jh and he killed innocent ton. Cancer be extradited 100% and will get life for directing a criminal organisation inside and outside the state maximum sentence is life and he will get the book thrown at him. Only thing now is that the Dutch and nca prob want him to but hopefully he's got in ireland

You could look at it that way, or one of the other reasons that criminals have been known to plead guilty is that it prevents other information coming out in court, no trial, I’m assuming that’s the case in uk too.

I would say the Irish authorities would almost pay the Dutch to lock him up, just a hunch.

MrFlashy92

begbysback wrote: »

Think about it, would having DK in an Irish jail prevent any further directing if crime? Absolutely not.

Would it escalate violence in a feud which has simmered down? Most likely.

What is the risk of bringing someone with unlimited funds before the scc? Well the scc is already questionable in itself, will it uphold against a number of top lawyers in the world? Untested.

It’s a no win game for the authorities, best they can hope for imo is DK doesn’t come back here.

I take your points but it will make an absolute joke of our justice system if he doesn’t spend time behind bars here

begbysback

gangstergossip wrote: »

Feud will be over and cancer be segregated for life ya think he be aloud out on a normal landing

Do you think he has enough money to challenge keeping him segregated for life on the grounds of inhumanity?

Haladmirer

gangstergossip wrote: »

Nobody knows what bombers doing but is strange when your looking at a stretch like that that you go guilty. Even if your on murder people go not guilty because you have nuthin to lose life if you go guilty or not so always worth the chance. The state want cancer on Irish soil bad there's enough evidence to charge him with the murder plots he was born on the encros then Bon new. They have his messages from arakas phone and they have a lot from the encro servers. They have branno bugged talking him then you have smcg who can't do jail looking at life for duckegg who will talk if they even need his evidence. They been looking at bomber 4 years and he gave his own personnel handgun to that simpleton to kill jh and he killed innocent ton. Cancer be extradited 100% and will get life for directing a criminal organisation inside and outside the state maximum sentence is life and he will get the book thrown at him. Only thing now is that the Dutch and nca prob want him to but hopefully he's got in ireland

A lad up for murder will have nothing to lose bacause mandatory life and will always plead not guilty but other cases where no mandatory stretch they have a huge incentive to plead guilty
Just saying it's not cut and dry,time will tell
This is definitely the start of the end of kinahan inc

Leedavy

A sixth man appeared in court today facing a raft of criminal conspiracy charges connected to the Europe wide investigation Operation Venetic.

Appearing at Newry Magistrates Court sitting in Lisburn, via videolink from police custody, 32-year-old Brendan O’Callaghan confirmed that he understood the 10 charges against him.

O’Callaghan, from the Monog Road in Crossmaglen, is accused of conspiring to murder “persons unknown,” entering an arrangement to acquire criminal property, conspiring to transfer criminal property and seven drugs charges alleging that he is was involved in conspiracies to supply cocaine, cannabis and diazepam, conspiracies to possess the class A, B and C drugs with intent, all alleged to have been committed on dates between 25 March and 15 June this year

Ash.J.Williams

begbysback wrote: »

You could look at it that way, or one of the other reasons that criminals have been known to plead guilty is that it prevents other information coming out in court, no trial, I’m assuming that’s the case in uk too.

I would say the Irish authorities would almost pay the Dutch to lock him up, just a hunch.

i think that's closer to the truth, he pleaded guilty and now goes straight to jail without much of a trial.

Cute Hoor

Leedavy wrote: »

A sixth man appeared in court today facing a raft of criminal conspiracy charges connected to the Europe wide investigation Operation Venetic.

Appearing at Newry Magistrates Court sitting in Lisburn, via videolink from police custody, 32-year-old Brendan O’Callaghan confirmed that he understood the 10 charges against him.

O’Callaghan, from the Monog Road in Crossmaglen, is accused of conspiring to murder “persons unknown,” entering an arrangement to acquire criminal property, conspiring to transfer criminal property and seven drugs charges alleging that he is was involved in conspiracies to supply cocaine, cannabis and diazepam, conspiracies to possess the class A, B and C drugs with intent, all alleged to have been committed on dates between 25 March and 15 June this year

Looks like a right scumbag
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/alleged-abuse-victim-had-clumps-of-hair-missing-and-was-covered-in-bruises-court-told-38395800.html

Leedavy

A man accused of raping and robbing a woman in Newry after a night out gave her mobile phone to his girlfriend as a present, the High Court has been told.

Prosecutors said the woman was sexually assaulted in a car then thrown onto the streets after accepting a lift home.

Padraig O'Callaghan, 21, of Monog Road, Crossmaglen, denies rape, false imprisonment and stealing her purse, bank cards, £100 in cash and a phone.

Bail was refused to the accused, who claims the woman consented to sex.

(Beautiful family by d sounds of tings)

Cute Hoor

Leedavy wrote: »

A man accused of raping and robbing a woman in Newry after a night out gave her mobile phone to his girlfriend as a present, the High Court has been told.

Prosecutors said the woman was sexually assaulted in a car then thrown onto the streets after accepting a lift home.

Padraig O'Callaghan, 21, of Monog Road, Crossmaglen, denies rape, false imprisonment and stealing her purse, bank cards, £100 in cash and a phone.

Bail was refused to the accused, who claims the woman consented to sex.

(Beautiful family by d sounds of tings)

I don't know if they are all the same family but a google search of O'Callaghan Monog Road throws up some interesting articles, including many about how the unfortunate O'Callaghans were dealt with by the local unofficial police.

White lighting

Cute Hoor wrote: »

I don't know if they are all the same family but a google search of O'Callaghan Monog Road throws up some interesting articles, including many about how the unfortunate O'Callaghans were dealt with by the local unofficial police.

That Monog rd sounds like a lovely place to live. Same address as Aaron Brady who's currently on trial for murder.

grayzer75

Them boys brought a lot of heat to the area over the years which didn't go down well.

Pinoy adventure

grayzer75 wrote: »

Them boys brought a lot of heat to the area over the years which didn't go down well.

Did go down well with who ?
Slab Murphy wouldn't of allowed that ****e in his day.
Long gone are the underground banks

grayzer75

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

Did go down well with who ?
Slab Murphy wouldn't of allowed that ****e in his day.
Long gone are the underground banks

ATM's / Credit Unions

Physical / Sexual assault

Friendly with a suspect in a capital murder case

All the above bring unwanted attention / surveillance to an area where a lot of boys were 'working' quietly in the background in the petroleum and tobacco industry without drawing too much attention to themselves

Haladmirer

The days of it being bandit country might be coming to an end

Pinoy adventure

grayzer75 wrote: »

ATM's / Credit Unions

Physical / Sexual assault

Friendly with a suspect in a capital murder case

All the above bring unwanted attention / surveillance to an area where a lot of boys were 'working' quietly in the background in the petroleum and tobacco industry without drawing too much attention to themselves

I'm sure the boys who were working quietly in the background were not too impressed either