Has PBP/Solidarity/RISE actually done anything?

crazy 88

Deleted User wrote: »

No one does, it was childish nonsense from Coppinger, though malicious enough on her part to be selling false hope to people in a devastating situation.

She deserved to lose her seat over it anyway!

JohnnyFlash

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No one does, it was childish nonsense from Coppinger, though malicious enough on her part to be selling false hope to people in a devastating situation.

Not too sure it was malicious on her behalf. Ruth and her fellow far-left travellers really do believe that nationalising all industry is the way to proceed. That includes the vast majority of farms, small businesses, and enterprises. It removes the profit motive from the conversation, which, along with growing working class consciousness, will eventually lead to communism.

Eric Cartman

I see paul murphy is doing the usual ‘tax the rich’ today advocating for a covid tax on the ‘rich’ (people making over 100k a year in his book)

What a sham of a politician.

Marcusm

danmci wrote: »

Joe Stalin was good that way alright

Now now, these are all Trotskyist or Trotskyite depending on their flavour. None would support Uncle Joe!

crazy 88

Marcusm wrote: »

Now now, these are all Trotskyist or Trotskyite depending on their flavour. None would support Uncle Joe!

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt...if Leon hadn't had a run in with that ice axe he would have implemented a socialist paradise :cool:

Galwayguy35

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I see paul murphy is doing the usual ‘tax the rich’ today advocating for a covid tax on the ‘rich’ (people making over 100k a year in his book)

What a sham of a politician.

Always makes me laugh to hear Murphy and Boyd Barrett coming out with things like this when both of them are from well to do backrounds and went to private schools.

They already know the tax system is structured in a way that takes more tax from people on 100 k and over, what's the point in anyone going to college and carving out a career for themselves if it is all taken away from them on tax.

And the super rich both of them also go on about have the resources to make sure their millions can be moved elsewhere if needed.

But yet they will fly the flag for parasites like Margaret Cash who won't pay one euro in tax in her whole life.

And they wonder why taxpayers won't give them a vote....

imme

Peruvian Flake wrote: »

Depends what you mean by anything.

https://www.cym.ie/2020/03/23/sexual-abuse-in-your-party-an-open-letter-to-mick-barry-richard-boyd-barrett-gino-kenny-paul-murphy-brid-smith/

I never heard about this before.

Were there reports made to the Gardai.

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

Disrespecting the female politicians again. Men, always men. Lot of anger...

You criticise another poster for a slight spelling error and turn it into misogyny, yet you had nothing to say about these serious allegations.

Peruvian Flake wrote: »

Depends what you mean by anything.

https://www.cym.ie/2020/03/23/sexual-abuse-in-your-party-an-open-letter-to-mick-barry-richard-boyd-barrett-gino-kenny-paul-murphy-brid-smith/

Would you join me in saying that there should be a full public investigation into these allegations?

FTA69

The SWP over here in Britain was split and gutted over the fact one of their senior people raped a young woman and it was covered up. The Irish SWP disassociated themselves from them over it;m. While there was never anything of that magnitude alleged here, both the PBP and SP fronts here have had many issues raised about a culture of abuse and sexism in those organisations.

The Joe Loughnane case was one and a few other individuals in Dublin.

Foxhound38

FTA69 wrote: »

The SWP over here in Britain was split and gutted over the fact one of their senior people raped a young woman and it was covered up. The Irish SWP disassociated themselves from them over it;m. While there was never anything of that magnitude alleged here, both the PBP and SP fronts here have had many issues raised about a culture of abuse and sexism in those organisations.

The Joe Loughnane case was one and a few other individuals in Dublin.

Had a mate in the youth section of the SP way back in the day (around 05 or 06) while a 6th year in school. She claimed that one individual in particular who was in a position of authority in the Party at the time had a well-deserved reputation as being a creep to young women including herself there. This fella was pushing 30 at the time.

Spanish Eyes

I enjoy these threads to laugh, and see the other side.

Look, I doubt anyone in Opposition, either the Left or SF EVER want to get into Gov. Why would they? Keep sniping from the sidelines and your in.

Time for change lol.

Eric Cartman

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Had a mate in the youth section of the SP way back in the day (around 05 or 06) while a 6th year in school. She claimed that one individual in particular who was in a position of authority in the Party at the time had a well-deserved reputation as being a creep to young women including herself there. This fella was pushing 30 at the time.

Theres been a fair few, when I was in college there was a few SWP members that some women had less than favourable things to say about them. That party was like a blue light for flies attracting those types, its probably the impressionable young women who were roped into the meetings by campus recruiters.

Acosta

PBP in the Dail today speaking up for the many victims of The Mother And Baby homes. And as usual when this issue is on the agenda there's not a FF or FG TD in sight.

Acosta

Acosta wrote: »

PBP in the Dail today speaking up for the many victims of The Mother And Baby homes. And as usual when this issue is on the agenda there's not a FF or FG TD in sight.

Who's to say that they were all victims? Many pregnant girls and women went in of their own free will and never told anyone.

FTA69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who's to say that they were all victims? Many pregnant girls and women went in of their own free will and never told anyone.

Probably because the nature of our ultra-Catholic society made life impossible for them.

imme

Acosta wrote: »

PBP in the Dail today speaking up for the many victims of The Mother And Baby homes. And as usual when this issue is on the agenda there's not a FF or FG TD in sight.

Ever?

There were questions in the Dail in recent days with Soc Dems and PBP asking questions about upcoming legislation.

The questions were answered by the taoiseach.

imme

Do Solidarity /PBP reps take shouting lessons.

Rabble rousing type public demos are their stock in trade but do they have a place in a legislative assembly.

There isn't a day goes by when Rich Boy Barrett doesn't shout his questions n in the Dail.
Is this meant to show his passion or something.

Sinn Fein have more than their fair share of shouty legislators, Pearse "am I loud enough" Doherty and Matt "can you hear me now" Carthy spring to mind.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

There were a few posters on here supporting Coppinger in nationalising Dell, I think Bowie was one of them.

You'd be wrong. At least you said 'I think' this time.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

You criticise another poster for a slight spelling error and turn it into misogyny, yet you had nothing to say about these serious allegations.



Would you join me in saying that there should be a full public investigation into these allegations?

Its the latest of many nicknames he spews. If he's claiming its a misspelling I'll take it as such.
What bizarre thought process brought you to such a comment?

Sure. You're confusing others with people like yourself. I've no blind no matter what party loyalty sickness.

Geuze

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I see paul murphy is doing the usual ‘tax the rich’ today advocating for a covid tax on the ‘rich’ (people making over 100k a year in his book)

What a sham of a politician.

The "rich" already pay the vast majority of income tax.

Eric Cartman

Geuze wrote: »

The "rich" already pay the vast majority of income tax.

Irish people already pay too much in taxes, especially those on over 50k a year, its barbaric

James Brown

Geuze wrote: »

The "rich" already pay the vast majority of income tax.

I'd suggest the vast majority of workers combined pay a lot more and they don't have access to off shore dealings and knowledge of loopholes and tax breaks.

PommieBast

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Irish people already pay too much in taxes, especially those on over 50k a year, its barbaric

The real problem is not so much the taxes themselves, but having little to show for them. A quarter of the budget is heath spending yet people still need to have medical insurance.

landofthetree

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Irish people already pay too much in taxes, especially those on over 50k a year, its barbaric

Yep.

The middle and higher earners are screwed over.

We treat low paid workers really well compared to other wealthy countries.

Ireland is one of the best places in the developed world for a low income worker to pay taxes, new figures show. Someone earning €18,000 a year pays an effective tax rate of less than 3 per cent in Ireland, according to the Irish Tax Institute. This compares with a rate of 26 per cent in Germany.

Also we put little VAT on food compared to the likes NZ who have a 15% rate or Sweden st 6% or France at 5.5%.

Bowie

Bowie wrote: »

I'd suggest the vast majority of workers combined pay a lot more and they don't have access to off shore dealings and knowledge of loopholes and tax breaks.

Depends on what your cut-off point for "rich" (referenced above) is, surely?

Eric Cartman

PommieBast wrote: »

The real problem is not so much the taxes themselves, but having little to show for them. A quarter of the budget is heath spending yet people still need to have medical insurance.

Our welfare and health spending are out of control , we really need to sack all non frontline staff in the hse and start again with less managers and no job duplication. Need to crack down on disability payment fraud, lone parents payment fraud and severly curtail / cut off JSA too

christy c

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Our welfare and health spending are out of control , we really need to sack all non frontline staff in the hse and start again with less managers and no job duplication. Need to crack down on disability payment fraud, lone parents payment fraud and severly curtail / cut off JSA too

I'm not sure how much of an issue fraud is so much as the very generous criteria. 1 in 6 households are jobless, I doubt that is all fraud.

Eric Cartman

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Our welfare and health spending are out of control , we really need to sack all non frontline staff in the hse and start again with less managers and no job duplication.....

There are other departments where you could actually make half the COs and EOs redundant and not start again.... Motortax etc is grossly overstaffed.

Eric Cartman

Augeo wrote: »

There are other departments where you could actually make half the COs and EOs redundant and not start again.... Motortax etc is grossly overstaffed.

Ohh man the ampunt of CO EO HEO and AP jobs that would he absolutely gone if I was given half a chance