Dr. Leo Varadkar rejoins the health service

ijohhj

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-varadkar-returns-to-practising-medicine-to-help-during-crisis-1.4221463

He really has come in to his own as a leader. He really is a great example. Especially when you compare him to other world leaders.

I'm sure the usual "bots" who can't see pass their nose for hatred of FG will be along to cry PR stunt or whatever, but thats just par for the course with the men who have all the questions and none of the answers.

I have to just say, fair play leo, hope you inspire others to do what they can.

Easily led, but I guess I'm a 'bot' who doesn't like 'party x' for disliking this useless twit.

If he walked into the room I'd ask for another doctor, I like my doctors capable meself.

People who want to play history revision off the back as something as serious as this pandemic are something else.

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ijohhj wrote: »

Easily led, but I guess I'm a 'bot' who doesn't like 'party x' for disliking this useless twit.

If he walked into the room I'd ask for another doctor, I like my doctors capable meself.

People who want to play history revision off the back as something as serious as this pandemic are something else.

On what basis are you judging his clinical abilities? Has he treated either you, or anybody that you know? Managing a health system and an individual’s clinical competency are very different things. You cannot judge him on the basis of your political beliefs. If things were to get bad, you would be glad to have a qualified doctor, with seven years’ clinical experience. I think that all healthcare coming back to the trenches at this point ought to be lauded

Junkyard Tom

blanch152 wrote: »

The single thanks your post received says it all.

That's very hurtful of you, I almost cried when I read it. Regardless, I don't have an unhealthy obsession with FG/FF/Lab or any political party like your, frankly neurotic, obsession with all things SF.

I think Simon Coveney has been impressive with Brexit and believe, all in all, FG/FF have done an okay job in the last couple of years outside accommodation/housing/homelessness.

Leo is a Tory Boy, he's a political opportunist who, despite his own sexuality, was against equal marriage until he saw the wind blowing the opposite way. That said, I'm glad a Doctor was in charge rather than what they have in Britain.

ijohhj

Erin Happy Pizzeria wrote: »

On what basis are you judging his clinical abilities?

Said not a thing about his clinical abilities in particular though, did I? I dislike his decision making abilities. He's made Ireland a worse place to be, I'm fully within my rights to worry that he'd make my health worse compared to another doctor.

Mortelaro

ijohhj wrote: »

Said not a thing about his clinical abilities in particular though, did I? I dislike his decision making abilities. He's made Ireland a worse place to be, I'm fully within my rights to worry that he'd make my health worse compared to another doctor.

Jaysis
What a load of sho1te

Jinglejangle69

ijohhj wrote: »

Said not a thing about his clinical abilities in particular though, did I? I dislike his decision making abilities. He's made Ireland a worse place to be, I'm fully within my rights to worry that he'd make my health worse compared to another doctor.

I wish there was a facepalm alllowed on boards.

ijohhj

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I wish there was a facepalm alllowed on boards.

You can really tell what opinions aren't worth a damn, when they can't be qualified with any real argument.

scudzilla

Can't stand FF/FG, Cant stand the government, Can't stand Leo

But in this crisis they're playing a blinder, i honestly wouldn't have anyone other than Leo running things at the moment.

I voted SF and was delighted how well the done, but thinking back, if the election was 6 months previous and they had ran, and won, more seats, i shudder at the thought of how they'd be doing in this crisis.

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ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Does this come out of the average industrial wage part of the salary?

Fair play anyways, annoyed me there was a mail going around about how to claim tax back for working at home. Going to need all the revenue we have!

They don't take an average industrial wage. It was all baloney

Allinall

ijohhj wrote: »

Said not a thing about his clinical abilities in particular though, did I? I dislike his decision making abilities. He's made Ireland a worse place to be, I'm fully within my rights to worry that he'd make my health worse compared to another doctor.

Which other doctor?

Field east

McMurphy wrote: »

They're getting their own PR stunts in too.

Twitter was full of tweets from various SF TDs handing back €8,200 of their salary to the Exchequer.

https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1247082255920566272?s=19

That’s only a piece of paper. Means nothing. Will it be followed up with a receipt from revenue

Idbatterim

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't stand FF/FG, Cant stand the government, Can't stand Leo

But in this crisis they're playing a blinder, i honestly wouldn't have anyone other than Leo running things at the moment.

I voted SF and was delighted how well the done, but thinking back, if the election was 6 months previous and they had ran, and won, more seats, i shudder at the thought of how they'd be doing in this crisis.

how are they playing a blinder are they doing anything that wasnt very obvious to do?

Wanderer78

Idbatterim wrote:

how are they playing a blinder are they doing anything that wasnt very obvious to do?

I also think they're doing extremely well, and I've never been a supporter

dundalkfc10

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't stand FF/FG, Cant stand the government, Can't stand Leo

But in this crisis they're playing a blinder, i honestly wouldn't have anyone other than Leo running things at the moment.

I voted SF and was delighted how well the done, but thinking back, if the election was 6 months previous and they had ran, and won, more seats, i shudder at the thought of how they'd be doing in this crisis.

I'm sure you voted Sinn Féin

scudzilla

Idbatterim wrote: »

how are they playing a blinder are they doing anything that wasnt very obvious to do?

Look at UK, Italy, Spain, U.S, they should have been doing the obvious but didn't, now look at the state they're in.

Credit where credits due

Galwayguy35

FB was full of people criticising him for "only answering the phone and its a PR stunt" while doing nothing themselves only bitch and moan.

Guy:Incognito

s1ippy wrote: »

How is that a "stunt"? He's giving his salary back because it's objectively too much.
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If Leo did it , thats exactly what youd be calling it.

ijohhj

Allinall wrote: »

Which other doctor?

There's a few of them in the country I hear. Is Varadkar always your GP when you go visit one? :pac:

Galwayguy35

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

I'm sure you voted Sinn Féin

O Reilly is spokesperson on health and she has had fook all to say since this crisis hit, I know who I'd rather sitting in the health ministers chair at the moment.

MadYaker

If they're up the walls and he's giving someone else a shift off then its a good thing. Id say he was nearly afraid to announce it because he must've known the reaction it would draw from a large chunk of the country.

Lonesomerhodes

He clearly cares not for the safety measures.

Classic case of do as I say not as I do.

There is photos of him in a Barracks today outside.

No masks no gloves and 2 metres?.
pffft more like 2 feet between him and the soldiers. They are basically all on top of one another so close its like a very busy pub in one photo!.

Idbatterim

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

FB was full of people criticising him for "only answering the phone and its a PR stunt" while doing nothing themselves only bitch and moan.

I mean the guy just cant really win with many people, myself included. Whatever about this new development, I am not going to give much credit, for tapping the ball into the open goal. The previous few years, are a disgrace on housing, health, justice etc, and as for rewarding workers :rolleyes:

You cant just magic that away...

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Idbatterim wrote: »

how are they playing a blinder are they doing anything that wasnt very obvious to do?

Ah, the hurler on the ditch

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

I mean the guy just cant really win with many people, myself included. Whatever about this new development, I am not going to give much credit, for tapping the ball into the open goal. The previous few years, are a disgrace on housing, health, justice etc, and as for rewarding workers :rolleyes:

You cant just magic that away...

Sorry if I can't think the opinion of someone who the week of the election claimed they were voting FG, FF, Renua, then the greens and finally Sinn Fein.

All you do is rant about how the workers get screwed.

Nothing else of substance.

Idbatterim

just the workers LOL! send my congratulations onto FG head office on housing, health, infrastructure, "justice" etc...

Idbatterim

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Sorry if I can't think the opinion of someone who the week of the election claimed they were voting FG, FF, Renua, then the greens and finally Sinn Fein.

All you do is rant about how the workers get screwed.

Nothing else of substance.

care to explain FG election disaster?

ThunbergsAreGo

Idbatterim wrote: »

just the workers LOL! send my congratulations onto FG head office on housing, health, infrastructure, "justice" etc...

Send my congratulations to voters against welfare and "free" houses and votes for the party which promised more of both .....

s7ryf3925pivug

He's just answering the phones. He's not frontline. I'm no longer impressed after finding that out.

Jinglejangle69

Sadie Flaky Bulb wrote: »

He's just answering the phones. He's not frontline. I'm no longer inpressed after finding that out.

Giving qualified medical advice.

Tell me oh wise one, what are you doing?

Dank Janniels

all about the mane wrote: »

There's no cure for what they have...

Provo-laxis?

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

care to explain FG election disaster?

They got voted out.

Thats democracy.

And they made it clear they needed to go into opposition.

What's your point?

all about the mane

Sadie Flaky Bulb wrote: »

He's just answering the phones. He's not frontline. I'm no longer impressed after finding that out.

Because you were so impressed before that :rolleyes:

all about the mane

Shinners still frothing at the mouth. Go to bed lads. Get some sleep. No doubt Leo will put his foot in it again soon enough. Ye can relax. He never fails.
In the meantime, it’s good to know how easily ye are triggered. Great entertainment

WashYourHands

Leo should be running the country 7 days a week.. not playing doctor and doing media work

CrankyHaus

Fair play to Leo! Looking forward to seeing other national leaders who are qualified doctors follow suit.

As a practising Opthalmologist in London Basher Al-Assad was, according to the Guardian, "A doctor whose boss recalled him as humble and whom nurses thought exemplary in reassuring anxious patients about to undergo anaesthetic". It would be funny to see him dust off the old stethoscope.

Idbatterim

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Send my congratulations to voters against welfare and "free" houses and votes for the party which promised more of both .....

what Fg? arent they presiding over luxury apartments in dundrum, free housing, outrageous welfare. More intersted in protecting margaret cash and co and the optics, than looking after those that put them in power years ago. They have reaped , what they have sowed...

s7ryf3925pivug

all about the mane wrote: »

Because you were so impressed before that :rolleyes:

Yes. Then I adjusted my opinion based on new information. An alien concept to lots of people here, I’ve noticed.

Sadie Flaky Bulb wrote: »

Great stuff. Leading from the front. The effect on morale will be much greater than the physical contribution. Like Churchill watching the bombers from his roof or George V staying in Buckingham Palace while the bombs were being dropped.

His speeches have been excellent too. One of them was also reminiscent of Churchill.

It's hard to judge the policies that have been put in place to deal with this in the immediate term. I think it would have been better to have acted sooner, but this is not a dictatorship so that might not have worked. They have done a good job of getting people in general to support restrictions that might have been met with hostility if imposed sooner or approached differently.

All that said, the HSE was not in good shape coming into this, and that makes things much more precarious than they needed to be. I think we have about half of the number of intensive care beds per capital as Italy, so it will be much easier for us to fall into that state where the health service is overwhelmed and not everyone can be treated. Incidentally, there are hospitals in the UK already getting to that point.

pjohnson

Idbatterim wrote: »

what Fg? arent they presiding over luxury apartments in dundrum, free housing, outrageous welfare. More intersted in protecting margaret cash and co and the optics, than looking after those that put them in power years ago. They have reaped , what they have sowed...

Oh are you flopped again to not liking FG?

smurgen

all about the mane wrote: »

Shinners still frothing at the mouth. Go to bed lads. Get some sleep. No doubt Leo will put his foot in it again soon enough. Ye can relax. He never fails.
In the meantime, it’s good to know how easily ye are triggered. Great entertainment

Three time posting this in one day. People like yourself should be booted off.

KiKi III

Sadie Flaky Bulb wrote: »

He's just answering the phones. He's not frontline. I'm no longer impressed after finding that out.

This is by far the most sensible approach. Most people suspected of having Covid 19 are being triaged over the phone and we need doctors for that.

At the same time, it would be foolish of Leo Varadkar to put himself at high risk of catching the virus by engaging directly with these patients.

christy c

From Mallow news: "Responding to Leo Varadkar’s return to medicine, Míchaél Martin has confirmed he has retaken his vow of celibacy and will be saying mass on Good Friday"

statesaver

What is he actually doing, answering phones ?

blanch152

statesaver wrote: »

What is he actually doing, answering phones ?

He is giving medical advice over the phone.

However, given the number of people on here who have claimed that they could do what he is doing, the number of volunteers is going to rise so quickly that he won’t be needed.

JohnnyFlash

statesaver wrote: »

What is he actually doing, answering phones ?

It's part of the service where doctors will take calls from members of the public, attempt to triage over the phone, and then recommend an action based on what they've been told.

I really think this is an instance where scepticism says more about the person feeling it; than the person they are sceptical about.

WashYourHands

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I really think this is an instance where scepticism says more about the person feeling it; than the person they are sceptical about.

No it doesn't. Anyone who eats this up is naive or a FG supporter :pac:

JohnnyFlash

WashYourHands wrote: »

No it doesn't. Anyone who eats this up is naive or a FG supporter :pac:

I'm in latter camp. We live in a cynical world, but I do believe this was the action of someone who recognises that we all need to make an effort over the next 6 weeks to curtail this fúcking thing. For round one at least.



The world has changed; changed utterly.

JohnnyFlash

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I'm in latter camp. We live in a cynical world, but I do believe this was the action of someone who recognises that we all need to make an effort over the next 6 weeks to curtail this fúcking thing. For round one at least.



The world has changed; changed utterly.

Would you not be least bit concerned he hasnt worked as a doctor in near on a decade?


Like,fair play and all....but i wouldnt let him near kittens until i was sure,he was up to scrath/fully upto speed on all areas

Idbatterim

pjohnson wrote: »

Oh are you flopped again to not liking FG?

I dont really like any of the parties. But FG lost a lot of seats, because they think people that would never vote for them, that they look after better than many of the early risers, who deserted them!

CrankyHaus

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I'm in latter camp. We live in a cynical world, but I do believe this was the action of someone who recognises that we all need to make an effort over the next 6 weeks to curtail this fúcking thing. For round one at least.



The world has changed; changed utterly.

Crucially it sets an example to other qualified doctors who may have moved on to something different, pharma or whatever, that they can still chip in, for an hour a week or whatever they can manage.

I wouldn't rule out peer pressure either. Doctors are fierce judgemental about each other, just listen to what they'd say about psychiatrists, and he was probably getting a bit of it from his siblings, his fella and maybe even his oul lad.

The PR was certainly a bonus but not the whole story.

The phones thing is a bit of a red herring. GPs have been favouring Covid19 consultations over the phone for weeks.

Rubberchikken

This media crap with all these doctors nurses etc riding qin to save us us getting on my wick.

Leo is a waste if space as taoiseach, so I hold out no hope for him playing at doctor.