Anyone hazard a guess for when the gyms will re-open

billybonkers

MistyCheese wrote: »

Ah! Is that what that means? So you can go to the gym and train, just no classes? That'll be alright for me anyway. But I just started taking Taekwondo classes and I presume they will be off now during level 3 restrictions.

Yes you can still go on your own and train

The TKD will probably be off for the moment though

jrosen

I love my spin class, I find it hard to push myself cardio wise so this is a hit for me. Weights wise im delighted to be able to continue at least that part.

JayRoc

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I was at Westwood Clontarf yesterday afternoon and it was busy as I've seen it since they reopened, but then I usually go before work or at lunchtime so it's quiet.
Anyway they have groups congregating in the jacuzzi, in the sauna/steam room etc, I would have thought it would spread easily in this scenario. It's mostly groups of younger males that seem to be going to the gym in groups of 3 or 4, spotting each other, zero social distancing. Then like staying in the cold plunge pool together etc. while other people are waiting. Really annoying behavior. I hope they don't close but I can see why they would close them given how people are on top of each other.

Actually of all the Westwoods, Clontarf is the only one I have not felt comfortable in since lockdown lifted.

Thelonious Monk

JayRoc wrote: »

Actually of all the Westwoods, Clontarf is the only one I have not felt comfortable in since lockdown lifted.

It's grand very early or at lunch. I go to Sandymount sometimes too and that's always fine, Clontarf just seems to have loads of gangs of kids, so they're making it look bad.

Alf Veedersane

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

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Oh and push up handles. They were a good addition and my bench held up pretty well................

I was doing dips for a while during lockdown but didn't keep at it tbh.

Was in flyefit last night and a chap benched 150kg, he was about 6 foot tall but very lean..... well under 100kg BW I'd guess. Dunno what he was at during lockdown but he must have been tipping away at something.

D3V!L

Augeo wrote: »

I was doing dips for a while during lockdown but didn't keep at it tbh.

Was in flyefit last night and a chap benched 150kg, he was about 6 foot tall but very lean..... well under 100kg BW I'd guess. Dunno what he was at during lockdown but he must have been tipping away at something.

Tipping away at steroids :pac:


#notremotelyjealous

The Davestator

Augeo wrote: »

I was doing dips for a while during lockdown but didn't keep at it tbh.

Was in flyefit last night and a chap benched 150kg, he was about 6 foot tall but very lean..... well under 100kg BW I'd guess. Dunno what he was at during lockdown but he must have been tipping away at something.

Maybe he was benching 200 kg before lockdown?

Black Sheep

The Davestator wrote: »

Maybe he was benching 200 kg before lockdown?

Or he might have set up a garage gym. On my road there's at least 3 of us who did. I said this earlier in the thread, but in the U.S garage gyms are a huge thing and they never really took root here (I think people have less living space, even before the issues with property in recent years). But I think COVID is changing that to some degree. At least for people who have the space/income to do it. I guess it'll be a pretty middle class thing, but it's like that in the U.S too.

For me the foundation of a real garage gym is a rack, barbell, bench, plates and flooring solution. You could spend any amount of money but certainly even going the ultra budget route, availability permitting, that's going to cost more than 1k.

If was limited by space and budget the first thing I would look for is a way to perform pull-ups and rows. A good doorway pull-up bar and / or an attachment point and TRX knock-off. After that things like dumbbells, kettlebells, a flat bench and bands are gravy.

Mellor

Black Sheep wrote: »

For me the foundation of a real garage gym is a rack, barbell, bench, plates and flooring solution. You could spend any amount of money but certainly even going the ultra budget route, availability permitting, that's going to cost more than 1k.

I have a ultra-budget garage gym. (Technically it's a terrace gym as enclosed on 3 sides only with a slab over).

Set of Bands
Kettlebells to 24kg
(Pull-up bar accross the road in the park)

If I was adding anything it would be a 28kg or 32kg Kettlebell

FlubberJones

In Ben Dunne Cherrywood this morning, very quiet, very clean and a huge amount of space generated by removing some storage areas and the classes space. Very impressed to say the least... just need to avoid being locked down again and I'm laughing!!

Alf Veedersane

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1016/1171882-coronavirus-ireland/

Might be time to get yourself kitted for the next couple of months of training at home

Starlord_01

Anyone recommend anywhere to pick up some dumbbells?

el Fenomeno

Damn it. I was just starting to get back a good bit of the strength I'd lost over the last closure.

Which, granted, was probably a lot less strength than most gym fanatics on here, but it was great progress by my standards

Alf Veedersane

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Anyone recommend anywhere to pick up some dumbbells?

What kind of weight?

Alf Veedersane

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Damn it. I was just starting to get back a good bit of the strength I'd lost over the last closure.

Which, granted, was probably a lot less strength than most gym fanatics on here, but it was great progress by my standards

Progress is relative chief. Only ever need to measure your progress on your own numbers.

Starlord_01

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

What kind of weight?

Maybe a set of 25s and a 20/24kg kettlebell.

silverharp

for what these are worth

Move Gyms To Essential Services For The Mental & Physical Wellbeing Of The Irish People

https://www.change.org/p/irish-government-move-gyms-to-essential-services-for-the-mental-physical-wellbeing-of-the-irish-people

Alf Veedersane

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Maybe a set of 25s and a 20/24kg kettlebell.

Try Gymless on Adverts. They have 22.5s and 27.5s anyway. Can't see KBs though

Starlord_01

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Try Gymless on Adverts. They have 22.5s and 27.5s anyway. Can't see KBs though

Thanks - that's an option.

Hopefully they make an exception for gyms like they have in parts of the UK.

Alf Veedersane

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Thanks - that's an option.

Hopefully they make an exception for gyms like they have in parts of the UK.

I can't see them making an exception, as much as I'd like if they did.

I just bought 30s from them and got a good bit of stuff from them last time.

Mars Bar

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Thanks - that's an option.

Hopefully they make an exception for gyms like they have in parts of the UK.

And once it gets in to the gym you are screwed. My sister picked it up in her gym and her trainer confirmed that 4 of his other clients also tested positive. So they are shut for the moment She was the only one to show symptoms that actually floored her. The others felt fine and are doing their workouts at home. This is in the UK by the way.

Strumms

Talk to anybody involed in the Exwell or simular programmes... they are 100% necessary.

I know since coming back theyve been conducting temperature checks before you get access through the door... in addition the class is in marked zones to individually distance participants...

vafankillar

i'd love if the government edited the level system and mirrored the restrictions in northern ireland. meaning gyms (and most retail) stay open, but schools and pubs/restuarants close.

RangeR

vafankillar wrote: »

i'd love if the government edited the level system and mirrored the restrictions in northern ireland. meaning gyms (and most retail) stay open, but schools and pubs/restuarants close.

And have you seen the figures in NI? Per 100,000, they have well surpassed us in infections. Just because they are doing something you like, doesn't mean it's the right call.

Patsy167

Very interesting read here - Particularly the table midway down - https://www.thejournal.ie/gyms-essential-service-petition-5234191-Oct2020/

is_that_so

Patsy167 wrote: »

Very interesting read here - Particularly the table midway down - https://www.thejournal.ie/gyms-essential-service-petition-5234191-Oct2020/

Be great if something came of it but may well be a casualty anyway.

Alf Veedersane

Patsy167 wrote: »

Very interesting read here - Particularly the table midway down - https://www.thejournal.ie/gyms-essential-service-petition-5234191-Oct2020/

While I don't think there is an evidential basis for closing gyms, though it might seem like a setting that would promote transmission, that table is for outbreaks. It's not saying there have been no cases that originated from gyms...just that the contact tracing hasn't identified outbreaks.

But obviously I'd be happy enough for gyms to stay open

Patsy167

What are peoples gut feeling on what will be announced tomorrow in relation to gyms?

Anyone I have spoken to seems to believe that they will be exempt from any restrictions and remain open. Hope this is not just confirmation bias on my part.

JeffKenna

Patsy167 wrote: »

What are peoples gut feeling on what will be announced tomorrow in relation to gyms?

Anyone I have spoken to seems to believe that they will be exempt from any restrictions and remain open. Hope this is not just confirmation bias on my part.

No I'd say they'll close. Level 4 and 5 have them closed so I can't see them staying open...then again the roadmap is a farce so who knows!

Alf Veedersane

Nolan already referenced gyms as a place where transmission would take place...about 3 weeks ago so I can't see them changing the restrictions already provided for in Level 4 and 5

DylanJM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-social-bubbles-eviction-ban-and-5km-travel-restriction-under-consideration-for-new-covid-19-rules-39638423.html

Not looking good judging by this. Think I'll move to Sweden.

JTMan

The government say that they are taking into account effects on health and mental health with the new restrictions. If that is the case, then one of the best things they could do is leave gyms & pools open.

There is little evidence of any outbreaks in Ireland linked to gyms.

I am really sad that tomorrow might be my last swim for potentially months.

matrim

I wonder if they will keep them open but limit the time and / or numbers. It's already hard enough to get a space in some of the flyefits.

el Fenomeno

I'd be very surprised if they're not shut.

There's not enough noise coming from the industry to put pressure on the government (in comparison to the likes of pubs, restaurants, schools etc.) and it has a public perception of sweaty people breathing heavily, so there'll be little support from non-gym goers. It'll be easy for the government to rationalize "you can replace your exercise at home".

As an aside, I'm aware of a gym in Blanchardstown (not sure which one, though) that has had a few members test positive.

caviardreams

I reckon it's closing time alright.

Agree that there is not enough pressure from the industry like the hairdressers and vintners etc.

We can only hope it's just for 4 weeks I guess this time and not 4 months as was the case for flyefit.

Rosita

Not sure whatever pressure vintners can put on government is the best example since many of them have been closed for seven months and others closed down again.

However, I think there is room for argument regarding gyms at level 4. It states that gyms are closed but it also states that individual training can take place indoors. Surely that - individual training - is how gyms have been operating over the past few months?

But I suspect this will be too blunt an instrument to acknowledge that.

tom1ie

Can anyone recommend alternatives for a cardio homework for my cardio gym workouts.
I do 10 mins rower. I think I can swap this for some band work maybe?
10 mins treadmill. I’ll hit the field for this one and run.
10 mins cross trainer. Haven’t got an alternative.
10 mins bike. I have my bike on a turbo trainer setup.

It’s really just the cross trainer alternative I’m looking for.
The weights however are a different story.
Don’t know how I’ll mimic that at home.
Body weight stuff maybe.

Alf Veedersane

tom1ie wrote: »

Can anyone recommend alternatives for a cardio homework for my cardio gym workouts.
I do 10 mins rower. I think I can swap this for some band work maybe?
10 mins treadmill. I’ll hit the field for this one and run.
10 mins cross trainer. Haven’t got an alternative.
10 mins bike. I have my bike on a turbo trainer setup.

It’s really just the cross trainer alternative I’m looking for.
The weights however are a different story.
Don’t know how I’ll mimic that at home.
Body weight stuff maybe.

Any cardio will do for cross trainer. Skipping? Just for something different.

caviardreams

Rosita wrote: »

However, I think there is room for argument regarding gyms at level 4. It states that gyms are closed but it also states that individual training can take place indoors. Surely that - individual training - is how gyms have been operating over the past few months?

Pretty sure individual training means a runner training by themselves or a fencer, or boxer etc. i.e. sports training must be individual. Gyms are definitely closed in Level 4 (but whether we get a Lever 4 remix is another question!)

Rosita

caviardreams wrote: »

Pretty sure individual training means a runner training by themselves or a fencer, or boxer etc. i.e. sports training must be individual. Gyms are definitely closed in Level 4 (but whether we get a Lever 4 remix is another question!)

No doubt that was the original intention of individual training but there is an argument that gyms have adapted and in essence provide this now. Unfortunately gyms gave no history of organised advocacy so there's no obvious forum for making the argument. However journalists, who presumably are hearing stuff from politicians, keep mentioning that cognisance will be taken of mental and physical health. Now maybe that'll relate only to the distance you can go to exercise or something but maybe there's some small hope for gyms.

Alf Veedersane

I don't think there is any hope for gyms being exempted, unfortunately. Being cognisant of mental health is the allowance for people on their own being part of another bubble. Keeping gyms open won't be under consideration.

pinkypinky

I've noticed a lot of complacency creeping in at my gym. People not cleaning machines before and after use. Not enough staff monitoring either. I've said it a few times and think they are doing their best, but it's not enough. In the past 2 weeks, I've really been wrestling about whether it's safe to go. Mental health vs physical health! I'd cut down from 3 to 2 visits but decided at the weekend that I'm going to skip a week...though now it looks like the govt will decide for me.

matrim

pinkypinky wrote: »

I've noticed a lot of complacency creeping in at my gym. People not cleaning machines before and after use. Not enough staff monitoring either. I've said it a few times and think they are doing their best, but it's not enough. In the past 2 weeks, I've really been wrestling about whether it's safe to go. Mental health vs physical health! I'd cut down from 3 to 2 visits but decided at the weekend that I'm going to skip a week...though now it looks like the govt will decide for me.

I can definitely see complacency in the queue waiting to get into the gym. People are standing closer than they used to.

Mellor

tom1ie wrote: »

Can anyone recommend alternatives for a cardio homework for my cardio gym workouts.
I do 10 mins rower. I think I can swap this for some band work maybe?
10 mins treadmill. I’ll hit the field for this one and run.
10 mins cross trainer. Haven’t got an alternative.
10 mins bike. I have my bike on a turbo trainer setup.

It’s really just the cross trainer alternative I’m looking for.
The weights however are a different story.
Don’t know how I’ll mimic that at home.
Body weight stuff maybe.

There is huge crossover between those cardio machines. You aren't really anything additional with the crosstrainer.

20mins run and 20mins on the turbo will cover all the same.
Add in some band rows and you are sorted.

Thelonious Monk

Westwood is a free for all anyway, it's pretty much the same as it was pre-Covid. I mean I don't want them to close today but with all the other restrictions it makes no sense to keep them open.
One last session at lunch today, then it'll be back to jogging and door frame pull ups for probably a couple of months!

rondog

WHich westwood?
I can vouch that Clontarf,any time ive be there, have been very covid compliant.

People being consistently cleaning equipment, keeping distance and staff being strict with people having towels,wiping down equipment and keeping instructed numbers in places like the sauna ,jacuzzi etc.

Thelonious Monk

rondog wrote: »

WHich westwood?
I can vouch that Clontarf,any time ive be there, have been very covid compliant.

People being consistently cleaning equipment, keeping distance and staff being strict with people having towels,wiping down equipment and keeping instructed numbers in places like the sauna ,jacuzzi etc.

Clontarf. I go nearly every day and there are often well over the numbers in the sauna and steam room, and the jacuzzi, often you get like 3 or 4 teenagers in the plunge pool and just staying there... It seems ok on the actual gym floor most of the time.
I know they're trying, but it's a place where lots of people come together, so I would have thought it's a risk.

Sheep Shagger

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Clontarf. I go nearly every day and there are often well over the numbers in the sauna and steam room, and the jacuzzi, often you get like 3 or 4 teenagers in the plunge pool and just staying there... It seems ok on the actual gym floor most of the time.
I know they're trying, but it's a place where lots of people come together, so I would have thought it's a risk.

Christ, our steam room and jacuzzi never reopened (a Gym Plus).

Rosita

pinkypinky wrote: »

I've noticed a lot of complacency creeping in at my gym. People not cleaning machines before and after use. Not enough staff monitoring either. I've said it a few times and think they are doing their best, but it's not enough. In the past 2 weeks, I've really been wrestling about whether it's safe to go. Mental health vs physical health! I'd cut down from 3 to 2 visits but decided at the weekend that I'm going to skip a week...though now it looks like the govt will decide for me.

In the place I go there is good distancing and an apparently good and regular cleaning regime.

However, I have noticed barbells with weights strewn around the floor recently, and saw one this morning where someone had stacked up a barbell on a rack and fecked off when they finished without taking the plates off.

Obviously that's under the spectrum of poor gym behaviour and has always been a fact of life. But in the current environment not clearing/cleaning up it's really not on. But it's impossible for the gym to police this and it does rely on individual behaviour.

The Davestator

Rosita wrote: »

No doubt that was the original intention of individual training but there is an argument that gyms have adapted and in essence provide this now. Unfortunately gyms gave no history of organised advocacy so there's no obvious forum for making the argument. However journalists, who presumably are hearing stuff from politicians, keep mentioning that cognisance will be taken of mental and physical health. Now maybe that'll relate only to the distance you can go to exercise or something but maybe there's some small hope for gyms.

Ireland Active sit at the table with sport ireland,FAI, GAA, Irfu and have been lobbying hard up to and including today.

I'd be surprised if they were kept open as all the Karens insist that they are sweaty breathing grounds (despite never been in a gym)