Anyone hazard a guess for when the gyms will re-open

Mr. CooL ICE

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The cynic in me thinks it's posturing so that their members will be convinced it's safe when they reopen around mid-August

Good point. Perhaps the guy has the (in his own head) perfect anti Flyefit radio ad lined up and this is part of the setup.

marklazarcovic

Before covid ,I'm a postie, I have a gym on my route ,I went after work on my way back to office,gym gear in back of van,so .. workout..shower..back into uniform..back to office..home,in the opposite direction to my gym..was dead handy and made going less of a challenge.

Now it's looking like gyms that do reopen won't have shower facilities being used.. from what I've read.. so I can't go working out,and back into uniform without showering,to go back to office before home. Its possible to do it of course but it's rank awful imo.

So I'll probably not be using my membership anymore and try do as much as possible at home,it's not the same ,and I miss the machines and free weight variety,but to quit altogether would have a disastrous affect on my mental well being tbh..

Stick with it folks

billybonkers

If they are going to limit numbers etc would it make sense for them to offer a reduced membership fee?

Car insurance companies have done similar

caviardreams

billybonkers wrote: »

If they are going to limit numbers etc would it make sense for them to offer a reduced membership fee?

Car insurance companies have done similar

That's different though as it is to do with the reduced risk from people driving a lot less and therefore reduced future/potential claims and reduced payout costs for the companies.


If gyms limit memberships, it means their revenue relative to their fixed costs (the biggest cost in a gym probably and one that can't be reduced easily) would drop significantly, so they would actually need to increase fees to compensate and make up the shortfall. That's why limiting numbers significantly just wouldn't work at current membership pricepoints in the likes of flyefit imo - if they cut memberships numbers by half, they would need to double membership fees more or less.

Alf Veedersane

Black Sheep wrote: »

One measure being discussed in a sports club I’m involved in is temperature checks on the way in to training. This has been used in healthcare settings. Takes a forehead thermometer, staff member with a mask and the willingness to politely send people home.

Is that a place in Limerick?

leanin2019

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Before covid ,I'm a postie, I have a gym on my route ,I went after work on my way back to office,gym gear in back of van,so .. workout..shower..back into uniform..back to office..home,in the opposite direction to my gym..was dead handy and made going less of a challenge.

Now it's looking like gyms that do reopen won't have shower facilities being used.. from what I've read.. so I can't go working out,and back into uniform without showering,to go back to office before home. Its possible to do it of course but it's rank awful imo.

So I'll probably not be using my membership anymore and try do as much as possible at home,it's not the same ,and I miss the machines and free weight variety,but to quit altogether would have a disastrous affect on my mental well being tbh..

Stick with it folks

If you could set aside 2.5m2 in your house you could invest in a squat rack, barbell, plates, dumbbells, bands, adjustable bench. All over some floor mats. Pricey but handy

el Fenomeno

I wouldn't be surprised to see memberships change to being based on daily time slots now, and a max number of members per time slot.

ie. Every hour long time slot (5pm to 6pm, or 6pm to 7pm etc.) gets a max of 10 or 20 members, really depends on the gym size and type. When you sign up, you pick the time slots you want and then they are the only times you can use the gym - I'm sure key fobs or whatever access mechanism can enforce this. Can't make your timeslot? Tough.

Premium timeslots get premium prices. When you sign up, you pick your timeslots and days - like a custom membership. Once a timeslot is full, waiting lists are introduced.

Could work. I've given it around 5-10 minutes thought and it seems flawless :pac:

DM_7

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to see memberships change to being based on daily time slots now, and a max number of members per time slot.

ie. Every hour long time slot (5pm to 6pm, or 6pm to 7pm etc.) gets a max of 10 or 20 members, really depends on the gym size and type. When you sign up, you pick the time slots you want and then they are the only times you can use the gym - I'm sure key fobs or whatever access mechanism can enforce this. Can't make your timeslot? Tough.

Premium timeslots get premium prices. When you sign up, you pick your timeslots and days - like a custom membership. Once a timeslot is full, waiting lists are introduced.

Could work. I've given it around 5-10 minutes thought and it seems flawless :pac:

This could work in its own right in any gym at anytime if the demand was there.

In Covid19 scenario things will gradually ease after opening (in all leisure type facilities). Needing to keep the showers closed in every gym in the country at the start for example will make sense but a more regional approach will be needed over time. They can't have one rule for the whole country and for every facility so ir might be hard to have premium memberships when thr timeline is not so clear.

Actually that could lead to unusual sights in car parks, will people be changing into clean gear in the car parks if we have no changing rooms? If I drive to the gym I won't be getting into the car wearing the gear I wore in the gym anyway, that will be going into a plastic bag in the boot.

Black Sheep

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Is that a place in Limerick?

No, Dublin based.

I don’t want to name them as I’m not directly involved and the people in charge still hashing it out.

I think thermometers are an easy control to put in place, comparatively speaking. For small to medium clubs / businesses.

Alf Veedersane

Black Sheep wrote: »

No, Dublin based.

I don’t want to name them as I’m not directly involved and the people in charge still hashing it out.

I think thermometers are an easy control to put in place, comparatively speaking. For small to medium clubs / businesses.

Saw an IG video from a Limerick-based club where they stepped through the measures they had put in place and included temp checks. But they had also spread equipment out as well. Was fairly well done tbh

VonLuck

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to see memberships change to being based on daily time slots now, and a max number of members per time slot.

ie. Every hour long time slot (5pm to 6pm, or 6pm to 7pm etc.) gets a max of 10 or 20 members, really depends on the gym size and type. When you sign up, you pick the time slots you want and then they are the only times you can use the gym - I'm sure key fobs or whatever access mechanism can enforce this. Can't make your timeslot? Tough.

Premium timeslots get premium prices. When you sign up, you pick your timeslots and days - like a custom membership. Once a timeslot is full, waiting lists are introduced.

Could work. I've given it around 5-10 minutes thought and it seems flawless :pac:

I think you could be on to something. With a lot of people working from home, there is a lot more flexibility from employers. You could pop to the gym at 11am for an hour and work that extra hour in the evening.

I'd definitely consider it if they started doing it.

marklazarcovic

leanin2019 wrote: »

If you could set aside 2.5m2 in your house you could invest in a squat rack, barbell, plates, dumbbells, bands, adjustable bench. All over some floor mats. Pricey but handy

I've got a decent set up of treadmill,curl bar, dumbells, kettle bells, barbells,bands,dip station and pull up ,converted a d multi gym machine into latt pull down and tricep time,works for me,I've no bench yet and am using a chair for seated shoulder dumbell raises etc.. took me a few months to get this far .. doing what I can for sure, cycling now too,only mountain bike so about 10-12 km spins

marklazarcovic

Seen this on hotuk deals

Sheep Shagger

Gyms in Hong Kong are reopening with rules, a sign of things to come here?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2020-05-18/hong-kong-gyms-have-new-covid-19-rules-video

Alf Veedersane

Gym in Limerick:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAdjCPVje9n/?igshid=1h9g1dwvjsj6q

Black Sheep

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Gym in Limerick:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAdjCPVje9n/?igshid=1h9g1dwvjsj6q

The temperature check and the physical spacing should help mitigate some risks. The saturation of the place with signs and instructions should, as he says himself, drive home to people the expectation that they are disinfecting as they go.

Seems like they'll have a good chance of bedding in a culture shift when they re-open that means people can train safely.

I don't think I saw a mention of capping numbers on the premises but I presume that would have to be a factor if they noticed they were getting very crowded at peak times.

The only set-up that I can think of which would be better than this would be gyms based on individual and small group training. The likes of a CrossFit box could have barbells and equipment set up and ready to go in a marked-out area for each participant in a class, and just disinfect the whole lot before the next group comes in. There wouldn't seem to be a whole lot of chance of transmission in that context.

One thing I would say is that a big factor in any re-opening has to be the backdrop of transmission within the community. We are almost at the stage where there is no transmission within the community at the moment, what we have left are clusters in specific settings, as I understand it. If we can hold onto that we'll be doing well.

traco

Fair play for him doing the vid but I think gyms are going to be very difficult to manage. Leaving aside the fact the people never did any cleaning nor put plates back I would question their ability to carry out cleaning to any standard at all. Even if they had a cleaner I would do all my own cleaning prior to starting anything but how much time will that add to a session?

The 2m space is for normal conditions such as regular breathing and speaking, get into an environment where people are pushing hard and breathing hard that 2m distance would need to be doubled to be effective in my uneducated opinion. The screens around the machines in Hong Kong are a token at best, how will they contain air spillover? They are also another surface that needs to be cleaned and create more nooks and crannies that will make cleaning difficult.

This video out of Japan is interesting and shows the importance of hand hygiene, skip in 0:50 to get past the waffle. If you replace utensils with dumbbells, plates and other contact points it shows how the potential for contamination and spread exists and how dramatic it is if not contained. I see very similar parallels in gyms. Crossfit platforms might have a chance if spaced well enough apart but they would each need all their own kit and then it would need to be thoroughly cleaned after each user. Regular gyms where people only use one station at a time and thoroughly clean before moving on is higher risk.
Skip to 50 seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOvENoZMmK4

I wish there was a simple way but I think they will be hard road ahead for gyms. I've just bought a kit etc as I have no idea when my gym will open and even if it did i don't see me going back until I am sure things are safe. I can't afford being quarantined for 14 days is someone was infected and there was a crossover on gym logs.

I think our lifestyles have changed for a while

Starlord_01

Not sure if posted already but gyms in the Emirates opened yesterday. https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/coronavirus-dubai-gyms-reopen-as-covid-19-restrictions-ease-1.1025672

traco

Interesting - looks like you have to wear a mask which would reduce spread hugely. The mask would have a huge impact but would people here wear them?

Alf Veedersane

traco wrote: »

Interesting - looks like you have to wear a mask which would reduce spread hugely. The mask would have a huge impact but would people here wear them?

I think people will wear them if they want to go enough. The people using gyms in the short term are the ones who will really want to and will feel comfortable enough in the environment. Obviously that won't be everyone but there will be a lot of people who will do whatever they need to (within reason) to use the gym. Using a face covering won't be that big a deal for people who are probably already champing at the bit.

ongarite

Agree with the above.
I'm already doing outdoor classes in my gym.
Great to be back doing some training.

Mitch Connor

I'd ware a mask returning to the gy, but it i owuld imagine it will have a big impact on what people do. I would imagine a lot of classes would be different. Anything cardio intensive is going to a lot more difficult with a mask on. At least I would think that is the case.

Alf Veedersane

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'd ware a mask returning to the gy, but it i owuld imagine it will have a big impact on what people do. I would imagine a lot of classes would be different. Anything cardio intensive is going to a lot more difficult with a mask on. At least I would think that is the case.

I still think a lot of people would suck it up if not wearing a mask means not going.

Mitch Connor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I still think a lot of people would suck it up if not wearing a mask means not going.

I agree - but it will be easier for weights focused people rather than the people who go to Spin, HIIT, Boxercise etc.

Previously I would have done a few stints on the cross trainer or treadmil in a session - but if i've to wear a mask I can't see myself doing that. I'll concentrate on lifts etc, and look to incorporate cardio at home (garden HIIT stuff) or out for a jog.

Mars Bar

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Not sure if posted already but gyms in the Emirates opened yesterday. https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/coronavirus-dubai-gyms-reopen-as-covid-19-restrictions-ease-1.1025672

Just Dubai, so a single Emirate!

Hoping Abu Dhabi is next. I'll only be going once a week to get access to the squat rack, bumper plates and bench to do the big lifts. The other days I will stick to my home workouts with my barbell and dumbells.

caviardreams

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I still think a lot of people would suck it up.

In fairness, wearing a mask makes it a bit harder to suck it up :p


Some people will be deligthed with not having to let anyone share equipment inbetween sets anyway I'd say.


I agree a mask is a non issue for weights (I wear one shopping and it's grand) - but not sure I'd fancy a heavy cardio session with one with the volume I sweat, it'd turn into a sopping mess, so I agree with mitch I think a lot might stick to running, cycling etc. in that context if it's an option for them.

billybonkers

Book in for an hour session in a small studio gym with only a PT. They can ensure everything is cleaned down after your session. Wear a mask and gloves. Clean as you go if needed also. Doors and windows open with plenty of airflow. Temperature checked on way.

Is this a viable option? Seems quite controlled.

traco

billybonkers wrote: »

Book in for an hour session in a small studio gym with only a PT. They can ensure everything is cleaned down after your session. Wear a mask and gloves. Clean as you go if needed also. Doors and windows open with plenty of airflow. Temperature checked on way.

Is this a viable option? Seems quite controlled.

No reason why not, I'd say it would have cost implications as cleaning on the go would slow down the session or else he needs a window between clients but aside from that no reason why it wouldn't work

Minime2.5

traco wrote: »

Fair play for him doing the vid but I think gyms are going to be very difficult to manage. Leaving aside the fact the people never did any cleaning nor put plates back I would question their ability to carry out cleaning to any standard at all. Even if they had a cleaner I would do all my own cleaning prior to starting anything but how much time will that add to a clean

Well they either get with the program or get ****ed out. Zero Tolerance Policy

Dravokivich

billybonkers wrote: »

Book in for an hour session in a small studio gym with only a PT. They can ensure everything is cleaned down after your session. Wear a mask and gloves. Clean as you go if needed also. Doors and windows open with plenty of airflow. Temperature checked on way.

Is this a viable option? Seems quite controlled.

Quite expensive.

Alf Veedersane

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I agree - but it will be easier for weights focused people rather than the people who go to Spin, HIIT, Boxercise etc.

Previously I would have done a few stints on the cross trainer or treadmil in a session - but if i've to wear a mask I can't see myself doing that. I'll concentrate on lifts etc, and look to incorporate cardio at home (garden HIIT stuff) or out for a jog.

I agree and I'd be the same. But it depends how much a person wants to go. The surgical masks aren't as bad though.

Some people will just find it to be the least worst option for them for a host of reasons.

ILoveYourVibes

I think people who do cardio based training are finding that the easiest to do at home though.

Its the people who lift who find that hard to do at home.

harr

I didn’t release the effects the gym had on my mental health only now do I release how much I need it .
Due to various injuries I can only use certain cardio and weight machines and swim , being stuck at home I am limited to a quick walk most days. Being a full time carer I need an outlet where I can let off steam and just go into my own little world for an hour or two ...not having those couple of hours in gym everyday is really getting to me at this stage .. not only that the gym was the only time of day I would socially interact with other adults.

billybonkers

harr wrote: »

I didn’t release the effects the gym had on my mental health only now do I release how much I need it .
Due to various injuries I can only use certain cardio and weight machines and swim , being stuck at home I am limited to a quick walk most days. Being a full time carer I need an outlet where I can let off steam and just go into my own little world for an hour or two ...not having those couple of hours in gym everyday is really getting to me at this stage .. not only that the gym was the only time of day I would socially interact with other adults.

Agreed, I find my structured 3/4 days a week really helps to keep my mind balanced and my body feeling good. The last few weeks I've felt like crap, even with what I've been doing bodyweight wise etc

ILoveYourVibes

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I still think a lot of people would suck it up if not wearing a mask means not going.

I wouldn't be able to do cardio though. I would have to do something else.

Alf Veedersane

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I wouldn't be able to do cardio though. I would have to do something else.

Like I said, depends how much you wanted to do it in the gym. Some people might find it the least worst option between doing it with a mask or not having the opportunity to do it.

Some people won't want to, some people will. Higher intensity classes would probably take the biggest hit.

harr

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Like I said, depends how much you wanted to do it in the gym. Some people might find it the least worst option between doing it with a mask or not having the opportunity to do it.

Some people won't want to, some people will. Higher intensity classes would probably take the biggest hit.

I just can’t imagine trying a HIIT or spin class with a mask on ... something like the stepper, rower or cross trainer maybe but I can imagine it would be irritating as **** .. I would comply if it meant getting back to the gym .. maybe I should get a mask with the filters like they use when spray painting.. air flow might be better.

ILoveYourVibes

harr wrote: »

I just can’t imagine trying a HIIT or spin class with a mask on ... something like the stepper, rower or cross trainer maybe but I can imagine it would be irritating as **** .. I would comply if it meant getting back to the gym .. maybe I should get a mask with the filters like they use when spray painting.. air flow might be better.

I've tried it running its not.


Well for me anyway. I don't want to discourage people from trying.

Maybe someone could manage. I kept sucking the mask into my face.

Plus its not just that. Its SOOOOO hot.

Just to be clear i do wear one for shopping etc Or in public places.

I barely am a nano sec passing people.

Alf Veedersane

harr wrote: »

I just can’t imagine trying a HIIT or spin class with a mask on ... something like the stepper, rower or cross trainer maybe but I can imagine it would be irritating as **** .. I would comply if it meant getting back to the gym .. maybe I should get a mask with the filters like they use when spray painting.. air flow might be better.

Nor could I. I'm just saying some people might find it the least worst option. Lighter masks might help.

sp00k

So with phase 5 scrapped I guess that means gyms will open 20th July now.

Alf Veedersane

sp00k wrote: »

So with phase 5 scrapped I guess that means gyms will open 20th July now.

If they're in a position to, with the guidance and requirements/restrictions in place.

If Ben Dunne was serious when he was saying he wasn't sure he could open his gyms on 10th of August on account of needing to be sure its safe, then I guess he won't be opening them up on the 20th of July...

I don't know that i'd be going back in mid July to them if they were open
as much as i miss it

Mitch Connor

bluewolf wrote: »

I don't know that i'd be going back in mid July to them if they were open
as much as i miss it

I'll be back as soon as I am allowed in the door, I reckon I'll be one of the first peolpe in!

but how I work-out, what I do, and how long I spend there, is going to be very different to what it was before.

sp00k

Gyms in my area absolutely chomping at the bit to open again, I'll not be hanging about waiting myself either.

Mitch Connor

My gym hasn't communicated at all, as far as I can tell.

they've been doing classes on Instagram Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and maybe they've chatted something in them - but there has been no email, no facebook updays, no instagram updates on what they are doing, plan to do or hope to do.

Eoinbmw

If my gym opened tonight id be there!

jrosen

Ive been back at some outside classes at my own gym. But if they opened the door tomorrow id be parked waiting on the doors to open.

Alf Veedersane

No issue going back.

I would hope that everyone is more conscious of not being on top of other people but given people's lack of self awareness and lack of basic gym etiquette, I won't hold my breath, so to speak. Which just means having to tell the other person to cop tf on and f tf off.

TheMilkyPirate

The minute the gym opens I'm back even if it was tomorrow. No problem wearing masks gloves social distancing cleaning whatever else is required I just want to lift.

New gym opening in Wexford now too our first proper stand alone one and now I just want to get back even more

captivo

Where/When is the new gym in Wexford opening?