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The maths of it all and what it means to Ireland
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yosemitesam1 wrote: »If you tested every death for flu virus and a positive result equalled death by flu regardless of symptoms, flu deaths would be much higher.
Link?Any proof at all to that?
So, let's say thats correct. Flu is way more dangerous than we all know apparently. It doesnt really mean anything, COVID has still caused a large number of deaths in Europe in a small amount of time and caused a huge strain on European medical infrastructure, something which flu has never ever done,so it would make sense that it is considerably more dangerous than flu. The stats back this up, but apparently the stats are wrong according to you, it is irrelevant either way though.
Even if we very generously said that perhaps half of flu deaths are unreported, kills about 100,000 in Europe annually. It still is far less deaths than those cuased by covid, and not only that but COVID has only infected 5% of the European population at most, where as flu infects up to 20%. So whatever way you want to look at it or no matter how you exaggerate figures in favour of that argument, covid is a lot more dangerous and a much bigger problem than flu.
If you'd like to believe that it is normal for a disease with an IFR similar to flu, to kill 200,000 people in Europe in 10 weeks then okay, feel free to believe it, but nobody else does, hence the measures being implemented worldwide.0 -
Link?Any proof at all to that?
So, let's say thats correct. Flu is way more dangerous than we all know apparently. It doesnt really mean anything, COVID has still caused a large number of deaths in Europe in a small amount of time and caused a huge strain on European medical infrastructure, something which flu has never ever done,so it would make sense that it is considerably more dangerous than flu. The stats back this up, but apparently the stats are wrong according to you, it is irrelevant either way though.
Even if we very generously said that perhaps half of flu deaths are unreported, kills about 100,000 in Europe annually. It still is far less deaths than those cuased by covid, and not only that but COVID has only infected 5% of the European population at most, where as flu infects up to 20%. So whatever way you want to look at it or no matter how you exaggerate figures in favour of that argument, covid is a lot more dangerous and a much bigger problem than flu.
If you'd like to believe that it is normal for a disease with an IFR similar to flu, to kill 200,000 people in Europe in 10 weeks then okay, feel free to believe it, but nobody else does, hence the measures being implemented worldwide.
See Sweden Flu results, the basket case of the world
laboratory-confirmed influenza diagnosis during the 2018–2019 season diedDeaths 30 days after influenza diagnosis
In total, 505 of 13,324 persons who received a laboratory-confirmed influenza diagnosis during the 2018–2019 season died within 30 days of diagnosis. Of these, all but four had an influenza A diagnosis. Most samples of influenza A and B were not analysed for subtype or lineage, respectively. Within the 30 days, most (75 percent) of those who died did so within 15 days of diagnosis.
Patients who died ranged in age from 0 to 100 years, with a median age of 81 years of age. Patients who had not died within 30 days of diagnosis had a median age of 59 years. In total, 88 percent of deaths within 30 days occurred among people aged 65 years and older. Ten percent of deaths occurred among adults aged 40–64 years and two percent occurred in people under the age of 40 years. The age distribution reflects the circulation of influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 and the lower mortality burden seen among the elderly this season.
Overall, 7 percent of those aged 65 years and older who received a laboratory-confirmed influenza A diagnosis died within 30 days. Table 10 shows that the proportion of deaths within 30 days increased with increasing age and varied from 0.2 percent for persons aged under 40 years to 23% for people aged 95 years and older. The analyses were not been adjusted for expected mortality per age group.
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/publicerat-material/publikationsarkiv/i/influenza-in-sweden/?pub=635110 -
See Sweden Flu results, the basket case of the world
laboratory-confirmed influenza diagnosis during the 2018–2019 season died
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/publicerat-material/publikationsarkiv/i/influenza-in-sweden/?pub=63511
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We don't test for flu
There are widely agreed upon estimates based on decades of data and which are further adjusted by the numbers admitted for respiratory illness to hospitals nationwide each season.
Anyway again it is totally irrelevant as the excess mortality caused by covid is far higher than any other year which takes into account deaths caused by flu
Really clutching at straws here lads, the IFR is 1%. Flu is 0.1%. Serum studies in France Spain and NL determined how many had it, and of that number more than 1% died. More will die of those already infected while infections have slowed to a trickle, and in Spain and NL the death toll is underestimated. Better to try and deal with reality than try to make up some other reality by playing with statistics to win an online argument. Would it make you feel better if everyone on here agreed with you that the IFR is the same as flu? It won't make one iota of a difference to the reality on the ground where covid is killing far more people than fly ever had and remains the leading cause of death in EU for the third month running despite a two month lockdown0 -
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and not only that but COVID has only infected 5% of the European population at most.
Haven’t had a chance to read up on the serum/antibody tests properly yet - but is this accepted now in the scientific community as correct, as in - are they fairly sure that only 5% max of Ireland’s population has been infected by Covid?0 -
Stormyteacup wrote: »Haven’t had a chance to read up on the serum/antibody tests properly yet - but is this accepted now in the scientific community as correct, as in - are they fairly sure that only 5% max of Ireland’s population has been infected by Covid?
I'm not sure really. It's just the results of the study. I dont know if there have been any estimates made of how many more people would have become infected after the study was done or if that number would be significant at all due to the studies taking place weeks after lockdown or how many were missed due to lag of seroconversion or how this related to a lag of the death rate either0 -
Amazing numbers today for the amount of new cases. I do fear where our numbers go from here now though, but then again I'm a worrier
New cases: 64
Total cases: 24,112
New deaths: 10
Total deaths: 1,543
As of Friday 15th May- Total cases: 23,953
- Hospitalised: 3,117 (Increase of 25 on previous day)
- ICU: 389
- Healthcare workers: 7566 (Increase of 33)
- Clusters: 800 (Increase of 16)
- Clusters account for: 8,956 cases
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There are widely agreed upon estimates based on decades of data and which are further adjusted by the numbers admitted for respiratory illness to hospitals nationwide each season.
Anyway again it is totally irrelevant as the excess mortality caused by covid is far higher than any other year which takes into account deaths caused by flu
Really clutching at straws here lads, the IFR is 1%. Flu is 0.1%. Serum studies in France Spain and NL determined how many had it, and of that number more than 1% died. More will die of those already infected while infections have slowed to a trickle, and in Spain and NL the death toll is underestimated. Better to try and deal with reality than try to make up some other reality by playing with statistics to win an online argument. Would it make you feel better if everyone on here agreed with you that the IFR is the same as flu? It won't make one iota of a difference to the reality on the ground where covid is killing far more people than fly ever had and remains the leading cause of death in EU for the third month running despite a two month lockdown
Europe is on track to equal excess deaths in 2015 which were high due to a bad flu season.
This spring is after a fairly soft flu season which meant mortality was lower in many European countries from late 2019 in the run-up to covid. Healthcare staff shortages were widespread in Europe when covid was at it's peak. Especially in Italy and Spain.
In addition to those two points, benchmarking covid against the flu can't be done when the methodologies behind calculating the severity of both are hugely different. Otherwise there is a risk of exaggerating the severity of one against the other.0 -
If that is even true, it is because of the lockdown..yosemitesam1 wrote: »Europe is on track to equal excess deaths in 2015 which were high due to a bad flu season.
This spring is after a fairly soft flu season which meant mortality was lower in many European countries from late 2019 in the run-up to covid. Healthcare staff shortages were widespread in Europe when covid was at it's peak. Especially in Italy and Spain.
In addition to those two points, benchmarking covid against the flu can't be done when the methodologies behind calculating the severity of both are hugely different. Otherwise there is a risk of exaggerating the severity of one against the other.
Anyway, serum testing has already determined the IFR to be far higher than flu, there is no argument here anymore as to whether it is more dangerous than the flu, it simply is.So all of these theories are largely irrelevant.0 -
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Also dont know where you got your excess mortality figure for 2015. Have not seen one EU collated figure. Excess mortality in UK and Italy is already far above 2015.
In 14/2015 43,900 excess deaths were recorded, between March and May 1st alone in the UK well over 50,000 excess deaths have already been recorded for example
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52623141
Italy's death toll from covid is likely to be up to 64,000 in reality. Again, far above 2015 and from March to May alone would make it the most deaths in a year in Italy since WW2
https://www.businessinsider.com/actual-coronavirus-deaths-in-italy-us-higher-than-official-count-2020-5?r=US&IR=T
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Today's numbers from Gov.ie/Reddit
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All numbers now updated as of briefing
New Cases: 88
Total Cases: 24200
New Deaths: 4 -> 2 of these occurred over the weekend, other 2 are from April
Denotified: 0
Total Deaths: 1,547
Breakdown of deaths- Deaths: 1,547
- Hospitalised + died in hospital: 641- 41%
- Died in ICU: 75 - 5%
- Underlying conditions: 1340 - 87%
- Median age: 84
- Mean age: 82
- Cases: 24,036
- Hospitalised: 3,127
- Total In ICU: 391 - 1.60%
- Median Age: 48
- Healthcare workers: 7,615 -> Increase of 49
- Remain in ICU: 51
- New cases since yesterday: N/A
- Clusters: 459 > Increase of 20 since Friday
- Total Cases: 6190 -> Increase of
- Total Deaths: 969 - 62.60% of overall deaths
- Clusters: 258 -> Increase of 8
- Total Cases: 4820 -> Increase of 138
- Total Deaths: 843 - 54.50% of overall deaths
- No real interesting, or of note questions asked
- Direct provision numbers will be given tomorrow
- Report drafted related to the Mater under-reporting
- End of next week/early week after will have a better idea of where we are, relating to the next re-opening phase. Tony currently confident.
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From the vaccines thread
WSJ update on the vaccine front-runners here (paywall).
- 100+ efforts globally
- 8 are at human trial stage including Moderna Inc., Pfizer Inc, Johnson & Johnson, JNJ, AstraZeneca PLC and Sanofi SA.
- Some, like vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna, are based on relatively new technologies that haven’t been approved previously.
- FDA in the US expected to give rapid approval after successful trials.
- Whilst some might reach the finishing line this year, fuller supply to vaccinate the general population might not become available until well into 2021.
- US to use existing network of state agencies that run childhood vaccination programs at public clinics.
- Johnson & Johnson expects to have some batches of its vaccine ready by early 2021.
- Moderna to make tens of millions of doses a month by the end of this year, and eventually as many as one billion doses a year.0 -
Gov.ie/Reddit briefing transcribes from today
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New Cases: 51
Total Cases: 24251
New Death: 16
Denotified: 2
Total Deaths: 1561- Deaths: 1561
- Hospitalised + died in hospital: 645 41.3%
- Died in ICU: 75 4.8%
- Underlying conditions: 1364 4.7%
- Median age: 84
- Mean age: 82
- Remain in ICU: 52
- New admissions:
- Cases: 24176
- Hospitalised: 3143 13.00%
- Total In ICU: 390 1.60%
- Median Age: 48
- Healthcare workers: 7661 > Increase of: 46
- Clusters: 459 > Increase of: 0
- Total Cases: 6248 > Increase of: 58
- Total Deaths: 976 62.50% of total deaths
- Hospitalised: 473
- Clusters: 258 > Increase of: 0
- Total Cases: 4859 > Increase of: 39
- Total Deaths: 849 54.40%
- Hospitalised: 335
Prisons- Clusters: 6 > Increase of: 1
- Cases: 19 > Increase of: 1
- Hospitalised: > Increase of:
- Clusters: ?? > Increase of:
- Cases: ?? > Increase of:
- Clusters: ?? > Increase of:
- Cases: ?? > Increase of:
- Hospitalised: > Increase of:
- Clusters: 13 > Increase of: 1
- Cases: 171 > Increase of: 22
- Clusters: 35 > Increase of: 3
- Clusters: 16 > Increase of: 4
- Cases: 828 > Increase of: 328
- Clusters: 10 > Increase of: 2
- Cases: 20 > Increase of: 5
- Total tests completed: 295,626
- Tests completed in the last week: 36,818 > Week previous we carried out 44,047
- Number of positive tests within the last week: 932
- Positivity rate: 2.50%
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QUESTIONS
2 hours in a room accounts for a close contact -how will this affect re-opening of schools etc?- This is to allow for contact tracing, and is under the guidance of the WHO. The two hour time limit is within a 24 hour period. It is the cumulative period exposure over 24 hours which is what is important
- In workplaces, don't interpret this as a hard and fast rule. It is something to trigger the creation of a risk assessment by a public health doctor.
- The risk assessment takes into account the size of the room, the ventillation
- Expected to see more activity
- Vast majority of retail outlets are responsibly, putting in arrangements that work and provide for the right kind of social distancing and allowing for people to sanitise their hands
- Don't see any reason for concern at the moment.
- Recognise in the operation of workplaces, contact can occur which can create risk
- Advice to workers is to work from home where possible, that will reduce the amount of workplace contact
- Avoid meetings taking place in the workplace - use video call
- Where these aren't possible, there is support available through the HSE and HAS in relation to guidance
- These are workplaces, the work that takes place here is not discretionary.
- Tony says it is a breach in patient confidentiality
- Paul Reid says in exceptional circumstances employer is told first
- It is a breach, ethically, for employer to get that first
- Circumstances were principle of confidentially cannot be upheld - for example if there is a greater public risk
- Tony & Co asked the same questions several times a day and the answers are being compared constantly to try see if they're contradicting. Need to allow them time to discuss certain scenarios, rather than the media instantly jumping to them not getting on.
- The report is on the less ability of some countries relating to the surveillance of deaths
- Only small number of countries reporting in a robust and wide manner. Ireland is one of these countries
- We report probable and confirmed deaths
- Believe ECDC pointing to a non-existant issue in Ireland
- Have seen some reports where easing of measures in some countries have led to increases
- Surges and waves are just different descriptive terms for an increase that don't want to be seen
- It's a little early to say if there has been changes in background epidemiology in countries where restrictions have been eased, especially in Europe
- The interval of 3 weeks between phases allows us to ensure that there haven't been large increases in cases, and to see if the public are still adhering to the measures
- The personal measures of people are what are so important
- Looking at anosmia - loss of smell/taste - generally follow the ECDC guidance and this is not one of the symptoms they identify. However our GPs have been aware of this
- Introduced the change of testing close contacts of confirmed cases - testing at the earliest point where they are identified, and then 7 days after contact with the case would have occurred.
- 2m is international guidance
- Reduction to 1m may make operation of activity (social, economic) easier
- Under continuing review as science/guidance changes
- This 2m came from 'drop and spread' - precautionary principle - this is the guidance implemented across the world
- Would need to look at emerging evidence to reduce to 1m, the virus won't just disappear after 1m
- Risk based framework, which is the road map to recovery. Based on this, if we can keep the suppression up, bringing cases down, we can move through the phases
- We have no assurance that a vaccine may ever come about. No one in the world can say when this is over
- The measures that are discussed in relation to physical distancing are important to protect ourselves and each other
- The specific advice does not say "not to hug" - hope that as we ease restrictions that we can still suppress the virus, and that NPHET can respond accordingly
- Currently evaluating the assay
- Will go for ethical approval - should be complete by the end of the month
- This will allow randomised study in the public, where members of the public will be randomly selected to give blood
- Will look at two regions - high and low prevalence areas
- Depending on findings, it may be repeated in different areas
- Randomised study but will look at those who are representative of the entire country - age, gender, ethnicity etc
- First study is to get a baseline, and once we have baseline information we can target specific groups
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Today's
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New Cases: 64
Total Cases: 24315
New Death: 11
Denotified: 1
Total Deaths: 1571
Deaths- Deaths:
- Hospitalised + died in hospital: 651 41%
- Died in ICU: 76 4.8%
- Underlying conditions: 84
- Median age: 82
- Mean age:
- Cases: 24204
- Hospitalised: 3164 13.10%
- Total In ICU: 393 1.60%
- Median Age: 48
- Mean age: 51
- Healthcare workers: 7708 > Increase of : 47
- Currently in ICU: 53
- New admissions to ICU within last 24 hours: 1
- New admissions to hospital: 16
- Clusters: 464 > Increase of: 5
- Total Cases: 6276
- Total Deaths: 978
- Clusters: 258 > Increase of: 0
- Total Cases: 6261 > Increase of: 13
- Total Deaths: 851
- In community: 19224
- Discharged from hospital: 1836
- Total: 21060
- Recovery rate of confirmed cases: 87%
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Gov.ie/Reddit
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New Cases: 59
Total Cases: 24698
New Deaths: 0 - probably due to the weekend effect, but this is still a serious reduction. A fortnight ago we had 15 cases on the Monday
Denotified: 2
Total Deaths: 1,606
Breakdown of deaths- Deaths: 1,606
- Hospitalised + died in hospital: 663 - 41%
- Died in ICU: 76 - 5%
- Underlying conditions: 1389 - 86%
- Median age: 84
- Mean age: 82
- Cases: 24,593
- Hospitalised: 3,225 13.10%
- Total In ICU: 394 1.60%
- Median Age: 48
- Healthcare workers: 7845 >> Increase of 26
- Remain in ICU: 49
- New cases since yesterday: 1
- Clusters: 458 >> Denotified: 4
- Total Cases: 6368 >> Increase of 43
- Total Deaths: 1005
- Clusters: 254 >> Denotified: 2
- Total Cases: 4959 >> Increase of 40
- Total Deaths: 878
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Looking at the numbers of residential settings and healthcare workers and then adding in the meat processing plants, it looks to me there is very close to or actually no community transmission.
Maybe stoking the fire here, but could it be the case that by end of phase1 we could have this bug eliminated in the general population?0 -
Some numbers and percentages for your consideration:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.21.20108746v10 -
Gov.ie/Reddit data for today
New Cases: 46
Total Cases: 24841
New Death: 9
Denotified: 1
Total Deaths: 1639
Breakdown of deaths- Deaths: 1639
- Hospitalised + died in hospital: 680 41.5%
- Died in ICU: 78 4.8%
- Underlying conditions: 1470 89.7%
- Median age: 84
- Mean age: 81 (This has dropped from 82)
- Remain in ICU: 47
- New admissions: 1
- New hospital admissions: 5
- Cases: 24795
- Hospitalised: 3207 13.20%
- Total In ICU: 404 1.60%
- Median Age: 48
- Mean Age: 51
- Healthcare workers: 7920 > 31.90%
- Clusters: 468 > Increase of: 7
- Total Cases: 6568 > Increase of: 76
- Total Deaths: 1030 > 63% of total deaths
- Clusters: 256 > Increase of: 0
- Total Cases: 5069 > Increase of: 16
- Total Deaths: 900 55.00%
- Confirmed 7888 > Increase of: 228 31.60%
- Hospitalisation: 296 > Increase of: 17 3.80%
- ICU: 43 > Increase of: 3 0.50%
- Deaths: 7 > Increase of: 0
- Moderate easing of measures on 18th May, modelling team have been monitoring whats been happening since that time
- All indicators good -new cases stable, new reported deaths declining slowly, admission to hospital is declining and remains low, ICU remains in around 50 and is slower to decline, admissions to ICU remain low (around 1-2)
- Number of deaths per day of death remains low, less than 10 a day - Majority in longterm residential care
- 25-30% in healthcare,
- 25-30% in residential care facilities, meat factories
- 40% in households
- Level in community very low
- Healthcare workers - 14 day cumulative incidence - total number of cases over the previous 2 weeks
- At peak, 1% of healthcare workers were ill with virus
- This is now closer to 0.1%
- As number of cases gets very low, it gets difficult to estimate the reproductive number - bad news for statisticians - good news for everyone else!
- The estimates remain low, around 0.5
- This is how the virus was depending a 7-10 days ago
- Imperial model looks at the effect of imposing measures, not removing them, so this model needs to be adapted to see how releasing restrictions effects the reproductive number
- Looking at new ways for looking at the reproductive number - looks at hospitalisations, confirmed cases and so on - projecting forward it shows the reproductive number for this at 0.5, but has confidence intervals between 0.3 and 0.7
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Today's data
New Cases: 10 > Lowest number since 10th March (may be weekend effect)
Total Cases: 25066
New Deaths: 8
Denotified:
Total Deaths: 1658
BREAKDOWN OF ALL DEATHS- Deaths: 1658
- Hospitalised + died in hospital: 693
- Died in ICU: 83
- Underlying conditions: 1493
- Median age: 84
- Mean age: 82
- Remain in ICU: 36
- Median age: 62-63
- Cases: 255
- Hospitalised: 3992 13.10%
- Total In ICU: 408 1.60%
- Median Age: 48
- Healthcare workers: 7,986 > Increase of: 18 (31.9%)
- Clusters: 472 > Increase of: 4
- Total Cases: 6703 > Increase of: 98
- Total Deaths: 1049 > 63.3% of all deaths
- Clusters: 258 > Increase of: 1
- Total Cases: 5163 > Increase of: 83
- Total Deaths: 917 > 55.3% of all deaths
- Total tests completed: 348,416
- Tests completed in the last week: 22,621 > Week previous we carried out 30,169
- Number of positive tests within the last week: 385
- Positivity rate: 1.70%
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Today's data from Gov.ie/Reddit
Question: regarding the Healthcare workers stats below, is the real mortality rate of this closer to 0.1?
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New Cases: 38
Total Cases: 25142
New Death: 5
Denotified: 0
Total Deaths: 1664
Breakdown of Deaths- Deaths: 1664
- Hospitalised + died in hospital: 694 > 42.0%
- Died in ICU: 82 > 4.9%
- Underlying conditions: 1501 > 90.2%
- Median age: 84
- Mean age: 82
- Remain in ICU: 36
- New admissions: 0
- New hospital admissions: 144
- Cases: 25104
- Hospitalised: 3311 13.20%
- Total In ICU: 410 1.60%
- Median Age: 48
- Healthcare workers: 8025 > 32.00%
- Clusters: 472 > Increase of: 0
- Total Cases: 6725 > Increase of: 22
- Total Deaths: 1056 > 64% of all deaths
- Clusters: 258 > Increase of: 0
- Total Cases: 5184 > Increase of: 14
- Total Deaths: 924 > 55.5% of all deaths
- Confirmed 8018 > 31.6%
- Hospitalisation: 302 > 3.8%
- ICU: 44 > 0.5%
- Deaths: 7 > 0.1%
Modelling- Very low incidence and prevalence of Covid 19 in Ireland
- Markers continuing to decline
- Confirmed cases by date of confirmation is declining
- Deaths per day reducing
- New cases detected per day, based on day the swab was taken - "unprecedentedly low" levels
- 12-20 new cases a day in family homes
HSE Key Performance Indicators
Looked at every Wednesday over the proceeding 5 days. These numbers are all averages
KPI This Week Last Week
New cases per day 48 60
Numbers in hospital 144 178
Hospital admissions per day 5 10
Numbers in ICU 37 50
ICU admissions per day 1 N/A
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Typo in the Nursing Homes percentage details.
Not your ornery onager
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This just popped up on my Timeline, apologies for The Sun link. I doubt they'd get the numbers wrong. Sensationalize them? Absolutely. But make them up? No
Ireland's mortality rate on this is at 5%?
Isn't this 5 times higher than many other countries?
https://www.thesun.ie/news/5504034/coronavirus-in-ireland-30-more-children-under-14-contract-covid-19-in-a-week-while-45-54s-most-likely-to-catch-virus/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=irishsunfacebook&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=159126660030 more children under the age of 14 have contracted Covid-19 in the last week according to latest statistics.
There are now a total of 25,064 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in Ireland.
In the last seven days, 334 new cases have been reported by health chiefs.
30 of these new cases have been children under the age of 14.
Eight tots under the age of four have been infected with the killer bug while 21 kids between the ages of five and 14 have tested positive.
19 children under the age of four have been hospitalised.
AGE BREAKDOWN
17 patients between the ages of five and 14 have been admitted to hospital while two have been moved to an Irish intensive care unit.
People between the ages of 45 and 54 are the most likely to contract the virus with 4,503 infected, accounting for 17.97 per cent of all cases.
The hardest hit age group remains the over 85s who account for 26.38 per cent of all deaths.
The median age of all cases is 48 while the mean in 51.
HOSPITALS
Some 13.16 per cent of all coronavirus cases in Ireland have been hospitalised, while 1.63 per cent have required critical care.
5.58 per cent of Irish people who have contracted the killer bug have sadly died.
Ireland currently has 872 clusters with 40 per cent of all cases associated with these.
31.93 per cent of all cases are healthcare workers.
COUNTIES
Meanwhile, 16 counties in Ireland have reported no new cases of Covid-19 in the last 24 hours according to the latest statistics.
Carlow, Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Galway, Kerry, Kildare, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Monaghan, Offaly, Sligo, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow have seen zero new cases of the killer bug.
Leitrim is the county with the least amount of confirmed coronavirus cases with just 83.
While Cavan has 844 cases, it is actually Ireland’s worst hit county per capita.
Per 100,000 population, Cavan has an incidence rate of 1108.0 compared to Dublin’s 897.3.0 -
This just popped up on my Timeline, apologies for The Sun link. I doubt they'd get the numbers wrong. Sensationalize them? Absolutely. But make them up? No
Ireland's mortality rate on this is at 5%?
Isn't this 5 times higher than many other countries?
https://www.thesun.ie/news/5504034/coronavirus-in-ireland-30-more-children-under-14-contract-covid-19-in-a-week-while-45-54s-most-likely-to-catch-virus/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=irishsunfacebook&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1591266600
The only section of the Irish population who have been routinely tested are healthcare workers and they have a Infection/mortality rate of 0.08%
Meat Plant workers have no deaths from over 1000 infected.
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No way is the mortality rate over 5%
That's what the maths and stats of it in Ireland says it is though0 -
That's what the maths and stats of it in Ireland says it is though
Yes but since all nursing homes residents have been tested, they (and healthcare workers) are the only section of the population to have had universal testing.
They are also those most likely to die.
Also a lot of people are only tested after dying.
I'm sure you understand that this massively skews mortality rates.0 -
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normanoffside wrote: »Yes but since all nursing homes residents have been tested, they (and healthcare workers) are the only section of the population to have had universal testing.
They are also those most likely to die.
Also a lot of people are only tested after dying.
I'm sure you understand that this massively skews mortality rates.
So if I'm understanding this right:- We are testing more of our Nursing Homes and Health workers per capita versus elsewhere?
- And we're not testing as many as the rest of our population compared to other countries?
5% is five times the mortality rate of some other countries0
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