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"Locals only" shop service

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    #32
    mossie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭mossie


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    In rural areas, everyone knows everyone. Seriously.

    I work in a small, relatively rural, town and it's true I would know 90% of the people I see every day. This would probably be even more true of people with shops in small villages who would know everyone within miles of the place.


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    #33
    DubCount
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    Sono Topolino wrote: »
    Sounds like a completely reasonable and necessary step to protect the shopkeeper, their staff and the community from blow-ins who could well be carrying the disease.

    Better safe than sorry.

    You do know that locals can carry the virus and infect people just as well as a "blow in" can. It might be better to follow government and WHO guidelines on social distancing and hand hygiene etc. than assuming locals have immunity and blow ins are virus ridden vermin.


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    #34
    suicide_circus
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    what if youre local but not a regular?


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    #35
    Sono Topolino
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    DubCount wrote: »
    You do know that locals can carry the virus and infect people just as well as a "blow in" can. It might be better to follow government and WHO guidelines on social distancing and hand hygiene etc. than assuming locals have immunity and blow ins are virus ridden vermin.

    Locals can only catch the virus through interactions with outsiders. Any steps that minimise the interactions of outsiders with the local community is for the better.


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    #36
    splinter65
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    and how would this be enforced? By recognition? accent? by car reg ("quick Mary nip outside and check the plates") by skin colour? or by pure luck?

    Loads of bollocks

    You don’t know much about small village life do you Harry?


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    #37
    hmmm
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    Someone taking the piss walking around with an inflatable donkey under their arm is one thing, but this is a terrible idea otherwise and hopefully is discouraged. I've some elderly relatives down the country and I'm sure the local shop doesn't know me personally, but I might want to drop in to buy supplies for them. I'd rather not get into a prolonged conversation about how long my family have been in the area and whether we took the shilling/any other prejudices.


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    #38
    splinter65
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You'd have travellers putting in discrimination cases left right and centre.


    And you'd have 'settled' people willing to chance it by putting in cases because they mentioned that they ID'ed as a woman or a transgender or a traveller or whatever, and the shop owner refused to serve them (whether that actually happened or not, one person's word against anothers).




    Any shop doing it would be decimated.

    The sign on the door says “locals only”. It doesn’t say “no transsexuals”.
    So how are transsexuals being discriminated against by the sign?!?


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    #39
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    mossie wrote: »
    I work in a small, relatively rural, town and it's true I would know 90% of the people I see every day. This would probably be even more true of people with shops in small villages who would know everyone within miles of the place.

    Yeah, that's it. Like, my parents wouldn't know absolutely everyone in their small village but they'd know someone who does. So it's like a web of information. And the local shop owners would probably know close to 100% of people.


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    #40
    Stark
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    splinter65 wrote: »
    The sign on the door says “locals only”. It doesn’t say “no transsexuals”.
    So how are transsexuals being discriminated against by the sign?!?

    They're all transsexual up there in Dublin.


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    #41
    fawlty682
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    Why are Gardai not using Emergency powers?


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    #42
    mossie
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Yeah, that's it. Like, my parents wouldn't know absolutely everyone in their small village but they'd know someone who does. So it's like a web of information. And the local shop owners would probably know close to 100% of people.

    Absolutely. Where I live is in the sticks. I would know most people within 3km, we wouldn't all be close friends or anything but I would know who they are and they would know me. Same with the local shops - there's a shop / petrol station 3km in one direction, a village with a supermarket and smaller shop 5 km the other way. I would know most of the staff in all these, maybe not personally but they would know me as a regular. Same in town where I work, I wouldn't know them all personally but I know they're regulars.


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    #43
    Pistachio19
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    JPCN1 wrote: »
    Would perhaps have been better if you had read all of my post where I did not condone people who had travelled after the restrictions.
    There is a difference even if you are unable to grasp that.

    The 2km restriction has been in place for 2 weeks. So fair enough if people travelled prior to that, but in your post you mentioned those who travelled before Friday last. Last Friday people were not supposed to be travelling more than the 2km for non essential travel.


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    #44
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    mossie wrote: »
    Absolutely. Where I live is in the sticks. I would know most people within 3km, we wouldn't all be close friends or anything but I would know who they are and they would know me. Same with the local shops - there's a shop / petrol station 3km in one direction, a village with a supermarket and smaller shop 5 km the other way. I would know most of the staff in all these, maybe not personally but they would know me as a regular. Same in town where I work, I wouldn't know them all personally but I know they're regulars.

    In fairness, I'm sure this is hard to fathom for anyone who grew up in a sizeable urban area.


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    #45
    DubCount
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    Sono Topolino wrote: »
    Locals can only catch the virus through interactions with outsiders. Any steps that minimise the interactions of outsiders with the local community is for the better.

    Clearly nobody inside the magic circle interacts with an outsider or moves outside of the ring of steel at any time. In the unlikely event the germs make it inside the protective curtain, you can have the infected moved to the Covid-19 colony on the outskirts of the village.

    Its nice to see that we are all in this together.


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    #46
    FrStone
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    Pistachio19 wrote: »
    The 2km restriction has been in place for 2 weeks. So fair enough if people travelled prior to that, but in your post you mentioned those who travelled before Friday last. Last Friday people were not supposed to be travelling more than the 2km for non essential travel.

    Our was only a recommendation until recently. When people heard Harris was going to sign it into law, they rushed to their holiday homes in advance.


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    #47
    splinter65
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    Stark wrote: »
    They're all transsexual up there in Dublin.

    They’re a terrible bunch of big girls blouses at least


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    #48
    Quantum Erasure
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    Pistachio19 wrote: »
    The 2km restriction has been in place for 2 weeks. So fair enough if people travelled prior to that, but in your post you mentioned those who travelled before Friday last. Last Friday people were not supposed to be travelling more than the 2km for non essential travel.

    the 2km limit is for exercise only

    as someone posted elsewhere:
    if your business is essential the 2km does not apply
    if your business is non essential the 2km is not a waiver


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    #49
    KiKi III
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    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    Yes, the cousin I married and the sheep on the side.

    Townies who actually think stuff like the above are why these kinds of divisions exist!


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    #50
    Cienciano
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    I think anyone who disregarded the government rules and travelled to somewhere they don’t normally live has to accept people are fearful they might have brought the virus with them.

    If you drive from a virus hotspot to somewhere with no cases or a handful of cases, how would you expect locals to receive you?

    Where is a virus hotspot?


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    #51
    KiKi III
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    Where is a virus hotspot?

    Feel free to consult the news for a breakdown of cases by county.


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    #52
    donspeekinglesh
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    DubCount wrote: »
    There was a report on Newstalk today about a shop in Fethard on Sea.

    Sure, they know all about boycotts there.


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    #53
    Quantum Erasure
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    #54
    mossie
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    DubCount wrote: »
    Clearly nobody inside the magic circle interacts with an outsider or moves outside of the ring of steel at any time. In the unlikely event the germs make it inside the protective curtain, you can have the infected moved to the Covid-19 colony on the outskirts of the village.

    Its nice to see that we are all in this together.

    What an ignorant and idiotic comment. Simple fact is people moving unnecessarily put themselves at risk as well as other people.


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    #55
    Cienciano
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    Feel free to consult the news for a breakdown of cases by county.

    So if I go into a shop in Granard and I'm from Navan, would they be within their rights to stop me? Or would I have to wait outside while they consult the news to see if its a "virus hotspot"?


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    #56
    Polar101
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    DubCount wrote: »
    I have heard a couple of examples of shops in rural locations implementing a "locals only" rule and not serving any "outsiders".

    When things get back to normal, these shops will be the ones complaining they don't get the business like they used to.


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    #57
    [Deleted User]
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    Dublin very often gets a bad reputation but we’re coming out on top in this. Plenty of “locals” in rural Ireland are threatening “outsiders” and threatening to do damage to their properties. Even on this forum we’ve seen it. Now this thread, locals only shops.

    Proud to be a Dub. We don’t have that hate in us. We don’t see people as “outsiders”.

    No doubt when this is all over we will be hearing the usual rubbish about rural Ireland dying. Well good riddance.


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    #58
    Pretzill
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    I'm over two decades living in rural Ireland and I'm still considered a 'blow-in' from Dublin, but this local only thing, if true, is a bit ridiculous - if people are ignorant enough to travel across the country, no matter where they originated from, they are staying put until the 5th of May so make sure they're spending local and at least contributing something. If the guards send them back home well and good but making enemies of people who help the local economy Now and in the future is regressive.


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    #59
    Sam Hain
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Dublin very often gets a bad reputation but we’re coming out on top in this. Plenty of “locals” in rural Ireland are threatening “outsiders” and threatening to do damage to their properties. Even on this forum we’ve seen it. Now this thread, locals only shops.

    Proud to be a Dub. We don’t have that hate in us. We don’t see people as “outsiders”.

    No doubt when this is all over we will be hearing the usual rubbish about rural Ireland dying. Well good riddance.

    You contradicted yourself. And it doesn't look good for you.


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    #60
    [Deleted User]
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    Sam Hain wrote: »
    You contradicted yourself. And it doesn't look good for you.

    How so?


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    #61
    RicketyCricket
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    DubCount wrote: »
    I have heard a couple of examples of shops in rural locations implementing a "locals only" rule and not serving any "outsiders". I fully agree with the restrictions on travel other than for essential reasons, but I think this is going further than the remit for a shop. If someone was refused service due to race, creed or membership of the travelling community, there would be protection under the Equal Status Act. However, there seems to be nothing stopping shops implementing a locals only policy.

    Does anyone else think this is wrong?

    I have heard a lot of ****e over the last 3 months. Should I start a thread for each individual piece of ****e I've heard or one big thread of ****e?


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