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    #122
    Downlinz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Well it's pissed me off and I think they showed poor judgment and understanding of how those of us who are "stranded" at home will feel about being allowed to do feck all other than what we did for the previous 14 days. I predict a riot. Well, no but I do predict that there will be flagrant bending of the rules by so many people the shut down will be undermined.

    We needed a rolling 7 day review, that wouldn't seem so miserable to me anyway.

    So long as it's flagrant it'll be pretty easy for Gardai to fine/imprison them. :D

    If most kids are able to accept it then I'm not sure why any adult needs to be babied with the information and told "it'll be grand in a few days" on a weekly basis to avoid tantrums.


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    #123
    [Deleted User]
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    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    There'll be a vaccine in sight by then (I hope).

    My Health Forum answer: No there won't

    All first world countries governments are waiting for the virus infection rate to die down.

    Method to my madness: no vaccine for the flu epidemic in 1918.


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    #124
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Are we not a tiny bit more advanced than 100 years ago.


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    #125
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    beauf wrote: »
    This has really dragged this thread off topic.

    It's was obvious they'd have to extend the restrictions. Not a surprise for most people.

    Yeah they should have announced some light at the end if the two / three week tunnel though !


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    #126
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    beauf wrote: »
    I was late to realise the mental impact this is having on many people.

    May I ask what helped change your mind?

    Fair play for being willing to admit it tho


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    #127
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Its having a massive mental toll on people under 25 or more emotional immature individuals without any sort of coping skill. Its no real fault of their own, they have been brought up in a time in Ireland where life has never been so fortunate. I am genuinely shocked by the reaction over the leaving cert. Anxiety seems to really prevalent in this age groups


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    #128
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Its having a massive mental toll on people under 25 or more emotional immature individuals without any sort of coping skill. Its no real fault of their own, they have been brought up in a time in Ireland where life has never been so fortunate. I am genuinely shocked by the reaction over the leaving cert. Anxiety seems to really prevalent in this age groups
    Snowflake Syndrome.

    They'll survive. :rolleyes:


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    #129
    Downlinz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Snowflake Syndrome.

    They'll survive. :rolleyes:

    There's a degree of lacking perspective among LC students but I definitely sympathise. They've effectively lost the last summer with their school friends in exchange for an extra two months of unfocused, preoccupied study at home and might then have to move very quickly from exams to college.

    They'll get over it but it's a nightmare way to end their school life.


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    #130
    antimatterx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Its having a massive mental toll on people under 25 or more emotional immature individuals without any sort of coping skill. Its no real fault of their own, they have been brought up in a time in Ireland where life has never been so fortunate. I am genuinely shocked by the reaction over the leaving cert. Anxiety seems to really prevalent in this age groups

    Is it? I'm 24, and sure it's not exactly great fun. But me and my friend group all have worn so we're busy. We talk everyday.

    Yea it's **** we can't go for a pint, but we're coping fine.


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    #131
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,690 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Yeah they should have announced some light at the end if the two / three week tunnel though !

    Holohan is just winging it based on delayed test results coming back from Germany, he's not going to tell Harris what to do just yet, so we all have to stay at home and claim the dole for now.


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    #132
    chicorytip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Downlinz wrote: »
    There's a degree of lacking perspective among LC students but I definitely sympathise. They've effectively lost the last summer with their school friends in exchange for an extra two months of unfocused, preoccupied study at home and might then have to move very quickly from exams to college.

    They'll get over it but it's a nightmare way to end their school life.
    They can just repeat. What difference will another year in school make to kids at that age (ages 4 to 18)? The Dept. Of Education needs to "write off", in effect, this entire academic year as if it never existed and start afresh next September if conditions allow. Home schooling or remote learning is neither effective nor healthy.


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    #133
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    May I ask what helped change your mind?

    Fair play for being willing to admit it tho

    Not that my mind charged. I was just too busy to think about it. Then I noticed some people struggling with it.


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    #134
    Die Hard 2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭Die Hard 2019


    nullzero wrote: »
    Behind every political decision lies the spin.
    I wouldn't be surprised to see the may 5th date be revised down, and Fine Gael will be the heroes.
    Like earlier ? We will be lucky to get out of this by Paddy's Day !! I can't see how people think otherwise


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    #135
    Die Hard 2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭Die Hard 2019


    chicorytip wrote: »
    They can just repeat. What difference will another year in school make to kids at that age (ages 4 to 18)? The Dept. Of Education needs to "write off", in effect, this entire academic year as if it never existed and start afresh next September if conditions allow. Home schooling or remote learning is neither effective nor healthy.

    The world will write off this year, third level and second level will be all held back a year and we will go from there. If we are lucky


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    #136
    irishproduce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    contrary_devil wrote: »
    Extension of restrictions and from reading posts on Facebook it seems there's still people coming over on ferries from the UK. Any passengers boarding a ferry should have proof of residency in Ireland or be turned away. Pure madness allowing in people like that.

    It's itinerants that are coming over on ferries.


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    #137
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,690 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    irishproduce wrote: »
    It's itinerants that are coming over on ferries.

    Technically they are never more than 2km from their home!


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    #138
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Downlinz wrote: »
    There's a degree of lacking perspective among LC students but I definitely sympathise. They've effectively lost the last summer with their school friends in exchange for an extra two months of unfocused, preoccupied study at home and might then have to move very quickly from exams to college.

    They'll get over it but it's a nightmare way to end their school life.
    The whole country has lost months and likely two or three more without their friends. Spare me the teenage bleeding hearts. It's an inconvenience not a nightmare. Screaming mental health, anxiety and depression over this is just downright insulting to those with genuine mental problems.

    LC has to go ahead as no way will colleges survive without first year students.

    That's life, deal with it.


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    #139
    Downlinz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    chicorytip wrote: »
    They can just repeat. What difference will another year in school make to kids at that age (ages 4 to 18)? The Dept. Of Education needs to "write off", in effect, this entire academic year as if it never existed and start afresh next September if conditions allow. Home schooling or remote learning is neither effective nor healthy.

    Repeating is the smart option but there's a huge stigma against it as it's seen as "failure" in many families.

    The kindest solution for LC students is to enforce repeating the year and take the decision out of their hands.


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    #140
    PaybackPayroll
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭PaybackPayroll


    beauf wrote: »
    Are we not a tiny bit more advanced than 100 years ago.

    I was looking at photos from that pandemic and they were all wearing masks. Apparently, they were not sure if it was a virus that was causing it, but they did know about keeping the sick from the healthy. It's quite fascinating the same stuff we are doing now, they did back then.

    So, maybe for this not as advanced as we think. Especially if the health system is overwhelmed.


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    #141
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    irishproduce wrote: »
    It's itinerants that are coming over on ferries.

    Proof?

    Also, wasn't new legislation brought in that travellers cannot be moved on?


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    #142
    beauf
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    PaybackPayroll wrote: »
    I was looking at photos from that pandemic and they were all wearing masks. Apparently, they were not sure if it was a virus that was causing it, but they did know about keeping the sick from the healthy. It's quite fascinating the same stuff we are doing now, they did back then.

    So, maybe for this not as advanced as we think. Especially if the health system is overwhelmed.

    You're basing that on photos...
    There are many additional reasons not to make blithe comparisons between the current crisis and the 1918 pandemic: stark differences in health care infrastructure and medical technology; the ravages of the first world war; the unusual tendency of the Spanish flu to kill young adults; and the fact that many, if not most, people infected with influenza in 1918 died from secondary bacterial infections (as mass-produced antibiotics did not yet exist). The global fatality rate is just an average, and the CFR of any pandemic varies immensely by age, population, and geography. During the Spanish flu, for instance, it ranged from less than 1 percent in some areas to 90 percent in one Alaskan village. What gets lost in superficial analogies is that, despite some valid and instructive parallels between the two pandemics, there are many more differences. We can’t use half-contrived statistics about a century-old pandemic to predict what will happen today.

    https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19-is-nothing-like-the-spanish-flu/


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    #143
    Risteard81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Risteard81


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Holohan is just winging it based on delayed test results coming back from Germany, he's not going to tell Harris what to do just yet, so we all have to stay at home and claim the dole for now.

    Both of them should be put out to pasture.


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    #144
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,383 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    De Danann wrote: »
    I know this is necessary and that we want to avoid the monumental tragedies occuring in the rest of the world, but did anyone else feel a bit like crying when they saw how long the restrictions have been extended by?

    Crying?

    No.

    To be honest, my life hasn't changed an awful lot.


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    #145
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Wtf is wrong with people that they cannot stay in close proximity to their primary residence for a few months.

    All the luxuries and mod cons and still whinging.

    It's a **** situation I get it, but the more people that stay at home the quicker we will get out of this mess and back to normal life.


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    #146
    99nsr125
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    This is some load of cųnt

    I'd say the asymptomatic rate is
    40% already.

    We'll never test everybody, at 2,000 tests
    per day it'll take **6** years to screen everyone.


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    #147
    grazer
    Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭grazer


    Your life may not have changed an awful lot, but lots of people’s have.
    My 90 year old mother can’t have family visits, or a family Easter lunch. My 3 kids can’t go to school, hang out with their friends, play any sports in their clubs. My brother in law’s work in ICU is now a daily threat to his health. My sister and her fiancé have lost their jobs and had to postpone their wedding plans. And we’re the lucky ones, as we aren’t (yet) financially threatened, or in health difficulties.


    Geuze wrote: »
    Crying?

    No.

    To be honest, my life hasn't changed an awful lot.


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    #148
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Another possible solution for the schools and I don't know if it will work.

    Changing the start of the school year from September to January. Spend the next few more months finishing off what's left of this school year. There's 6th class primary school students due to go to first year in secondary school without finishing properly in primary school. That could be upsetting for them. Maybe they could go back to school from September to December. Maybe LC exams could be held in December. Everyone starts in a new school year come January. I don't know if that would work.

    This virus really is dumping on everyone.


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    #149
    UrbanSprawl
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    irishproduce wrote: »
    It's itinerants that are coming over on ferries.

    fcuk thats nasty but sure why wouldnt they if they are irish the effect of this pandemic is people fleeing home almost did it myself so every1 Irish will be ireland for the next while and that is awesome


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    #150
    marilynrr
    Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    jackboy wrote: »
    What are single parents supposed to do with their children when shopping?

    People are still complaining about this every single day on a few groups I follow. I'm lucky my kids are older and I don't need to bring them but it's not an option for single parents of small kids.
    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Online order & have it delivered. Only one person should be shopping. Husband should not be going in with the wife or vise versa.

    The only supermarket that does deliveries near me is Tesco, there's no online slots available in the next 3 weeks!

    Absolutely agree that it should only be one adult per household though if it's possible.


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    #151
    Diarmuid
    Registered Users Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭Diarmuid


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    It's a **** situation I get it, but the more people that stay at home the quicker we will get out of this mess and back to normal life.
    No evidence WHAT SO EVER that this is true


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