Restrictions extended until 5th May

Lundstram

Lundstram wrote: »

The whole country has lost months and likely two or three more without their friends. Spare me the teenage bleeding hearts. It's an inconvenience not a nightmare. Screaming mental health, anxiety and depression over this is just downright insulting to those with genuine mental problems.

LC has to go ahead as no way will colleges survive without first year students.

That's life, deal with it.

The reason there's so much anxiety over it is that from first year, they have it ingrained into them that it's the be all and end all. Like I found the leaving cert to be way more of a mental strain than college including my masters.

It's necessary for the exams to move but I can see why the chaos could make plenty of them anxious messes. Fyi, I also had the first signs of depression and anxiety during secondary school so for anyone to develop it in their situation, I can get it.

theological

Diarmuid wrote: »

No evidence WHAT SO EVER that this is true

I guess only decent logic.

If people go out and about and meet eachother, then they are going to pass the disease onto someone and then another person more than likely and that's the best case scenario even if they themselves are asymptomatic carriers.

The point of the measures is to reduce the rate of transmission and break transmission chains. When there is evidence that this is beginning to happen then maybe authorities can reconsider their options.

It's important to make sure that it comes down substantially so that we don't risk accelerating the rate of transmission again and a second wave comes upon us.

It's also important not to overrun the health service.

I'd recommend watching Dr John Campbell for more in depth reasoning on why this is essential.

Odyssey 2005

French authorities taking no messing, doesn't matter who you are or how much they have . Well done to them.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/french-police-turn-back-private-jet-of-holidaymakers-from-uk-1.4226006?mode=amp

irishgeo

contrary_devil wrote: »

Extension of restrictions and from reading posts on Facebook it seems there's still people coming over on ferries from the UK. Any passengers boarding a ferry should have proof of residency in Ireland or be turned away. Pure madness allowing in people like that.

Facebook isnt a reliable news source.

starbaby2003

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Its a great time for saving

No excuse for anybodys house to be a tip

Except for those of us trying to work full time jobs and mind very young kids. My husband and I are now spreading our work day from 6am - 11pm. Our youngest still wakes us multiple times in the night. Our oldest is devastated she misses her friends and grandparents so much. I barely have time to eat lunch. Stupid ****ing comments like yours heighten how much harder it is for some groups during this lockdown.

Discodog

Dravokivich wrote: »

You need to think a bit more about this. I'm not going to use a service, that is extremely critical for someone else.

Few are thinking. Most are in rant & rave mode.

Diarmuid

theological wrote: »

I guess only decent logic.

If people go out and about and meet eachother, then they are going to pass the disease onto someone and then another person more than likely and that's the best case scenario even if they themselves are asymptomatic carriers.

The point of the measures is to reduce the rate of transmission and break transmission chains. When there is evidence that this is beginning to happen then maybe authorities can reconsider their options.

It's important to make sure that it comes down substantially so that we don't risk accelerating the rate of transmission again and a second wave comes upon us.

It's also important not to overrun the health service.

I'd recommend watching Dr John Campbell for more in depth reasoning on why this is essential.

You missed the point of my post. I'm not claiming that this is not slowing down the transmission. What I am claiming is that if we all hide away now, the quicker we are going back to normal. That's just not true. The virus is going nowhere. And it's still going to be around whether we lock ourselves at home or not.

In fact the more we lock ourselves away, the longer it's going to be before things are back to normal.

dubrov

Diarmuid wrote: »

In fact the more we lock ourselves away, the longer it's going to be before things are back to normal.

Agreed. A lot of people seem to think if we all follow the rules we can complately eliminate this thing.

The slower the spread the longer this goes on for.
Of course, the slower the spread, the slower the rate the ICU fills up as well.

Caquas

My local Tesco is packed this morning. Almost full car park, a queue about 200 metres long (2 mt. spacing OK). Tesco will be open all day tomorrow. Don’t tell me this is all essential shopping. Lots of people coming out with just a couple of bags. We’re not going to beat the virus like this :mad:

Discodog

Caquas wrote: »

My local Tesco is packed this morning. Almost full car park, a queue about 200 metres long (2 mt. spacing OK). Tesco will be open all day tomorrow. Don’t tell me this is all essential shopping. Lots of people coming out with just a couple of bags. We’re not going to beat the virus like this :mad:

I wonder how much of this is just something to do, to get out of the house.

_Kaiser_

Discodog wrote: »

I wonder how much of this is just something to do, to get out of the house.

Probably an element of that. Aside from the delay of standing around to get in (somewhat problematic if you're trying to fit it in between conference calls), I'm actually enjoying doing what previously would have been a mundane food shop.

I'm also finding I'm really missing the daily spin in the car.

Harry Palmr

I'm looking forward to my shop tomorrow during quiet time, and I'm really hoping I spot some paint. ANY PAINT, I no longer care what type or colour I JUST WANT PAINT!

ka2

chicorytip wrote: »

They can just repeat. What difference will another year in school make to kids at that age (ages 4 to 18)? The Dept. Of Education needs to "write off", in effect, this entire academic year as if it never existed and start afresh next September if conditions allow. Home schooling or remote learning is neither effective nor healthy.

I made the same suggestion and got slaughtered for it. Everything from calling it “absurd” to “absolute last resort” to the more reasonable such as it causing a bulge in the system and straining childcare facilities. But these are very strange times too, normality has gone out the window and I don’t think anything can be ruled out at this stage.

c.p.w.g.w

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'm looking forward to my shop tomorrow during quiet time, and I'm really hoping I spot some paint. ANY PAINT, I no longer care what type or colour I JUST WANT PAINT!

Tomorrow is Easter Sunday, and numerous stores won't be open

https://www.thesun.ie/money/5277099/irish-supermarket-easter-weekend-coronavirus-opening-times-aldi-dunnes-lidl-tesco-supervalu/

Sorry its the Sun

Caquas

Discodog wrote: »

I wonder how much of this is just something to do, to get out of the house.

I think that’s a lot of it, but it’s a terrible solution.

They are crowding into an essential service, making it impossible to keep social distance. Tesco is limiting numbers but if a buzzer went off this morning every time someone came within 2 mts. of others in there, the noise in there would be deafening. The aisles are barely 2 mts. wide. Not to mention all the surfaces being touched without being disinfected.

If you just have to escape the house, go for a walk on your own. It goes against our instincts but being sociable these days is anti-social.

Thelonious Monk

irishproduce wrote: »

It's itinerants that are coming over on ferries.

That's the first thing I thought when I saw the news on ferries. You're pretty much guaranteed to have drunk travellers on every ferry crossing between here and Britain.

fallen01angel

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

That's the first thing I thought when I saw the news on ferries. You're pretty much guaranteed to have drunk travellers on every ferry crossing between here and Britain.

I read on one of the links posted here (can't remember what thread tbh) that the bars on the ferries are closed and only pre wrapped sandwiches available for purchase....

theological

Diarmuid wrote: »

You missed the point of my post. I'm not claiming that this is not slowing down the transmission. What I am claiming is that if we all hide away now, the quicker we are going back to normal. That's just not true. The virus is going nowhere. And it's still going to be around whether we lock ourselves at home or not.

In fact the more we lock ourselves away, the longer it's going to be before things are back to normal.

It depends on what you mean by normal. I think when there's a clearer view of the cases substantially dropping and testing being able to identify clusters conclusively again along with a tight contact tracing mechanism there's no reason as to why things couldn't be loosened.

It won't be normal but the idea that the tightest arrangements will last for 18 months is something I strain to believe.

Rodney Bathgate

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

That is exactly why it is May 5th imo. That'll be the third bank holiday in lockdown mode

Is St Patrick’s Day included in that? We weren’t in lockdown back then, lockdown started 28th March. The restrictions before then were far more relaxed. No parades though obviously.

Harry Palmr

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Tomorrow is Easter Sunday, and numerous stores won't be open

https://www.thesun.ie/money/5277099/irish-supermarket-easter-weekend-coronavirus-opening-times-aldi-dunnes-lidl-tesco-supervalu/

Sorry its the Sun

Feck it, I forgot. Local centra for a top up then

easypazz

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Is St Patrick’s Day included in that? We weren’t in lockdown back then, lockdown started 28th March. The restrictions before then were far more relaxed. No parades though obviously.

All bars closed, all parades cancelled, all sports events cancelled.

Not much different to current situation.

FloatingVoter

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Is St Patrick’s Day included in that? We weren’t in lockdown back then, lockdown started 28th March. The restrictions before then were far more relaxed. No parades though obviously.

Pubs shut on midnight the 15th. That cancelled everything for most of our brethren (myself included).


I'm beginning to think pubs just existed in my imagination.

Rodney Bathgate

easypazz wrote: »

All bars closed, all parades cancelled, all sports events cancelled.

Not much different to current situation.

Significantly different. It wasn’t lockdown, you could leave your house and travel within Ireland without restrictions, restaurants / cafes, many non essential businesses still open.

ldy4mxonucwsq6

easypazz wrote: »

All bars closed, all parades cancelled, all sports events cancelled.

Not much different to current situation.

Schools closed since the 13th of March so more or less that's when it all started for us here anyway.

Discodog

Caquas wrote: »

I think that’s a lot of it, but it’s a terrible solution.

They are crowding into an essential service, making it impossible to keep social distance. Tesco is limiting numbers but if a buzzer went off this morning every time someone came within 2 mts. of others in there, the noise in there would be deafening. The aisles are barely 2 mts. wide. Not to mention all the surfaces being touched without being disinfected.

If you just have to escape the house, go for a walk on your own. It goes against our instincts but being sociable these days is anti-social.

I wonder if they couldn't do more click & collect. Even allow people to post lists into, say a box in the carpark & then collect later or next day.

BoatMad

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Good!

Whatever it takes

To achieve what precisely , we can’t defeat a virus

BoatMad

theological wrote: »

It depends on what you mean by normal. I think when there's a clearer view of the cases substantially dropping and testing being able to identify clusters conclusively again along with a tight contact tracing mechanism there's no reason as to why things couldn't be loosened.

It won't be normal but the idea that the tightest arrangements will last for 18 months is something I strain to believe.

Cases here are well behind the original estimates , just exactly what is the exit strategy ?

jimmyrustle

De Danann wrote: »

I know this is necessary and that we want to avoid the monumental tragedies occuring in the rest of the world, but did anyone else feel a bit like crying when they saw how long the restrictions have been extended by?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0410/1129733-covid19-coronavirus-restrictions/

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I think anyone would have expected it to run until after the May bank holiday so it was to be expected.

Not a hope of an early lifting.

May 5th, I'd imagine, will be the start of certain sectors returning to work, at least those where staff aren't in close proximity to each other. Also likely a return for retail outlets, albeit perhaps with maximum occupancy, one out one in, being enforced by staff on the door same as chemists and supermarkets are currently doing. Hopefully allowed to socialise/ drive where we like, within reason.

While I fully support the lockdown I do miss a good long drive on the open road with the tunes blaring. I've been doing laps around the estates just to keep her ticking over, it's far from an adequate replacement, feels like learning to drive again being honest!

God knows when the pubs will re open, but it won't be May 5th.

BoatMad

jimmyrustle wrote: »

I think anyone would have expected it to run until after the May bank holiday so it was to be expected.

Not a hope of an early lifting.

May 5th, I'd imagine, will be the start of certain sectors returning to work, at least those where staff aren't in close proximity to each other. Also likely a return for retail outlets, albeit perhaps with maximum occupancy, one out one in, being enforced by staff on the door same as chemists and supermarkets are currently doing.

God knows when the pubs will re open, but it won't be May 5th.

What info points to that happening after the 5th. You may be grasping at straws

FloatingVoter

BoatMad wrote: »

What info points to that happening after the 5th. You may be grasping at straws

The eh.......news.