Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Beasty

patnor1011 wrote: »

Found on the internet:

No Conspiracy Theory stuff in this forum - it's explicitly stated in the OP

khalessi

Cody montana wrote: »

It was less insane tonight?

maybe because of less orange and grey hair, he is suffering identity crisis

Kermit.de.frog

Beasty wrote: »

No Conspiracy Theory stuff in this forum - it's explicitly stated in the OP

Incidentally Trump confirmed the aul lab in Wuhan is no longer being treated as some wild conspiracy theory but a very real point of investigation.

BorneTobyWilde

Trump Signature going on cheque, and him in full Crown and King attire

He's one crazy dude.

Loafing Oaf

timmy_mallet wrote: »

This is interesting till you ask yourself why was the army required to take coffins out of hospitals in Itsly, etc.

Yeah the guys running this hoax are incredibly lucky that death rates have actually surged massively in multiple countries at just the right time for them.

khalessi

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Incidentally Trump confirmed the aul lab in Wuhan is no longer being treated as some wild conspiracy theory but a very real point of investigation.

After the journalist asking the question provided FOx mews as a source lol

timmy_mallet

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Incidentally Trump confirmed the aul lab in Wuhan is no longer being treated as some wild conspiracy theory but a very real point of investigation.

Two things.

1. Trump is a conspiracy theorist.
2. Many concerns were raised over the years of a global pandemic arising from virus research labs. As likely a wet market.

Strumms

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The mayor of Los Angeles has said today the city will not be allowing any concerts, shows, sporting events or mass gatherings of any kind until 2021.

Expect this to be theme in the coming days.

Sounds sensible to be honest. A third of the year passed and writing the remainder off from a socially active point of view puts the focus of everyone on being part of a fix, focusing on doing their small part, to be part of the remedy, as opposed to being part of the crowd coming out with... “can I book a party for my mother’s 80th in August ?” “Is there any chance of restrictions being lifted for X tournament” etc... shutting down expectations from the ‘get go’ reduces the probability of chancers taking chances and putting us back at square one.

Kermit.de.frog

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump Signature going on cheque, and him in full Crown and King attire

He's one crazy dude.

Gods Gift

eagle eye wrote: »

Did the WHO come up in Trump's presser tonight?

No
roger daltrey Is fine

patnor1011

wakka12 wrote: »

Just because this new disease is from the same family of viruses as the common and usually mild coronavirus doesnt mean it has the same impact. The Spanish flu was also just another influenza, a family of diseases which most of the world recover from annually.

Also I just dont understand who benefits from this manufactured pandemic. Who is pulling all these strings? All the governments of every country in the world conspiring in such an efficiently synchronised manner, pretty amazing

We do not know about the impact yet only time will show that.

In a way very government benefits from situation like this. Every problem imaginable can be now blamed on "it happend because of this..."
Even our one - remember water protests? Billing scrapped after people took into the streets. Now are essentially locked in home with no end in sight.
And no, it is not every government in every country and it is far from synchronised.
If it was really that bad then there would be millions of dead people all over africa and asia - mainly poor countries with non existent health industry.

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

think it was said it could take another month and a half or two months to actually form a government

They still need a few to make the required numbers, wondering what small party is willing to fall on that sword, even if their leader gets a ministerial pension out of it, or if the independents get a look in

Muahahaha

timmy_mallet wrote: »

This is interesting till you ask yourself why was the army required to take coffins out of hospitals in Itsly, etc.

No doubt conspiracy theorists will say the coffins were empty and that the families of the victims were just crisis actors :rolleyes:

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

President Chump's rally is over for this evening.

I thought it was very short. He also took very few questions, he was stung badly on Monday night and doesnt want the media asking awkward questions that show his response as being poor. So he got out of there quick smart.

khalessi

patnor1011 wrote: »

We do not know about the impact yet only time will show that.

So you dont know but are willing to put up shoight anyways - conspiracy thread down corridor and first left or is it?:cool:

tobefrank321

Laois_Man wrote: »

Just found out who the 2 healthcare workers from St. Lukes hospital in Kilkenny who died are. Didn't know the man - but the woman was a very nice lady who served food to my wife when she was a patient there. Very saddened.

I believe there was a complaint a few weeks ago that while doctors and nurses were kitted out in full PPE in hospitals, the catering staff had no PPE. I hope this wasn't the case for these two staff members.

RIP to them both, genuine heroes.

khalessi

khalessi wrote: »

After the journalist asking the question provided FOx mews as a source lol

John Roberts is actually a good journalist. FOX also have Chris WALLACE who is excellent , and had Shep Smith until the stench made him jump ship a few month ago.

kyote00

Pence had a runny nose during his speech ... drissle down like a snails trail

Muahahaha wrote: »

No doubt conspiracy theorists will say the coffins were empty and that the families of the victims were just crisis actors :rolleyes:



I thought it was very short. He also took very few questions, he was stung badly on Monday night and doesnt want the media asking awkward questions that show his response as being poor. So he got out of there quick smart.

khalessi

Deleted User wrote: »

John Roberts is actually a good journalist. FOX also have Chris WALLACE who is excellent , and had Shep Smith until the stench made him jump ship a few month ago.

I didnt say he wasnt a good journo

just it is the only wy to get Trump's attention to last through a question

Laois_Man

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I believe there was a complaint a few weeks ago that while doctors and nurses were kitted out in full PPE in hospitals, the catering staff had no PPE. I hope this wasn't the case for these two staff members.

The man who died was not catering staff. He was a healthcare assistant

Quantum Erasure

Muahahaha wrote: »

No doubt conspiracy theorists will say the coffins were empty and that the families of the victims were just crisis actors :rolleyes:

oh jesus i hope that **** doesn't start...

fritzelly

I'm a little behind on the Trump presser but is he making a play to lead the WHO should he not get another term?

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

oh jesus i hope that **** doesn't start...

Already has, plenty claiming that the photos were fake.

Blueshoe

fritzelly wrote: »

I'm a little behind on the Trump presser but is he making a play to lead the WHO should he not get another term?

Unlikely. He has another four years to do in the most powerful position in the world. Maybe afterwards if there is time

Kermit.de.frog

Bolsanaro in Brazil - strategy of ignorance failing.


208 new deaths today and over 3,000 new cases.

tobefrank321

growleaves wrote: »

Taiwan had a set of unique restrictions based on SARS which had nothing to do with lockdown in the W. European sense. They didn't confine people to their houses or shut down economic activity (every article about Taiwan says 'restaurants, bars, schools, universities and offices remain open'.)

They had border controls, comprehensive testing, early contact tracing, and an early ramp up in mask production.

They were very smart in their approach. They banned healthcare workers travelling to hotspot zones as soon as they were identified. They temperature checked passengers from Wuhan on the planes. They rolled out temperature screening across the country. They checked people were isolating using their mobile phone locations. They sent a fact finding team to Wuhan to find out all they could about cv. Along with numerous other precautions.

And they've had a grand total of 395 cases and 6 deaths.

wakka12

patnor1011 wrote: »

We do not know about the impact yet only time will show that.

In a way very government benefits from situation like this. Every problem imaginable can be now blamed on "it happend because of this..."
Even our one - remember water protests? Billing scrapped after people took into the streets. Now are essentially locked in home with no end in sight.
And no, it is not every government in every country and it is far from synchronised.
If it was really that bad then there would be millions of dead people all over africa and asia - mainly poor countries with non existent health industry.

Yes such as Ecuador where bodies are being left on the streets

Blueshoe

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Bolsanaro in Brazil - strategy of ignorance failing.


208 new deaths today and over 3,000 new cases.

How about the strategies in Italy and Spain.

tobefrank321

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Bolsanaro in Brazil - strategy of ignorance failing.


208 new deaths today and over 3,000 new cases.

Not to downplay it but those are small enough numbers for the size of their population.

I think Belgium posted similar numbers despite having 1/20th the population.

You really can only judge leaders performances on deaths per million population.

People think the US are doing badly but per 1 million they are streets ahead of the likes of Belgium, Italy, Sweden, UK and Spain.

patnor1011

EDit wrote: »

The tests used are specific for this coronavirus. You don’t seriously think that everyone is being tested for any coronavirus? Jesus!

Seriously? You do have some reading to do before you try to be condescending.

khalessi

Dr. Kim interesting to listen to

Covid virus can remain for upto a month in people but maybe longer in those with weaker immune systems. Mers virus stayed in somone after recovery for 52 days not sure yet with COvid19. fascinating stuff

Washing hands social distancing and wearing masks important to prevent it

fritzelly

khalessi wrote: »

Dr. Kim interesting to listen to

Covid virus can remain for upto a month in people but maybe longer in those with weaker immune systems. Mers virus stayed in somone after recovery for 52 days not sure yet with COvid19. fascinating stuff

Yeah, down to earth guy - no big words, explained simply and effectively

patnor1011

wakka12 wrote: »

Yes such as Ecuador where bodies are being left on the streets

Not particulary good example as Ecuador was caught in this while right in the middle of national crisis. Country was already paralysed in a state of semi lockdown due to massive protests against government. Their health system was not functioning with a lot of dead people daily. This only excacerbated problems they were already facing.

Tandey

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Moron.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0415/1130713-covid-charged-break-restrictions/

This little scumbag should be deported.

Blueshoe

Tandey wrote: »

This little scumbag should be deported.

Can't do that. We are on big happy European family.

V8 Interceptor

Simple Simon: "Trump's WHO decision is inexcusable"

Early March:

Kingston Mills: "We should close the borders. Why haven't we done it?"

Simple Simon: Eh, Urm, Err….... we're in the EU, its about freedom of movement"




Inexcusable decisions indeed...

Minnie Snuggles

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Not to downplay it but those are small enough numbers for the size of their population.

I think Belgium posted similar numbers despite having 1/20th the population.

You really can only judge leaders performances on deaths per million population.

People think the US are doing badly but per 1 million they are streets ahead of the likes of Belgium, Italy, Sweden, UK and Spain.

US deaths are not recorded where a person dies at home. There are many people who cannot afford treatment and are dying at home. These people are not included in their number of deaths. Right now on CNN there is case after case of people who cannot afford their medications, and their outlook is dire.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

Tandey wrote: »

This little scumbag should be deported.

i hope he dies,
sooner rather than later

eagle eye

Minnie Snuggles wrote:

US deaths are not recorded where a person dies at home. There are many people who cannot afford treatment and are dying at home. These people are not included in their number of deaths. Right now on CNN there is case after case of people who cannot afford their medications, and their outlook is dire.

You can't believe anything from CNN or Fox. CNN is pro-Democrat, Fox pro-Republicsn.

Minnie Snuggles

eagle eye wrote: »

You can't believe anything from CNN or Fox. CNN is pro-Democrat, Fox pro-Republicsn.

This is absolutely harrowing, but I think you should read it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52196815

Kermit.de.frog

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Simple Simon: "Trump's WHO decision is inexcusable"

Early March:

Kingston Mills: "We should close the borders. Why haven't we done it?"

Simple Simon: Eh, Urm, Err….... we're in the EU, its about freedom of movement"




Inexcusable decisions indeed...

Why are you calling him "simple"?

Seems a very clever and capable man to me.

wakka12

patnor1011 wrote: »

Not particulary good example as Ecuador was caught in this while right in the middle of national crisis. Country was already paralysed in a state of semi lockdown due to massive protests against government. Their health system was not functioning with a lot of dead people daily. This only excacerbated problems they were already facing.

You said if this virus was real it would be causing a lot of deaths in poor countries because of poor healthcare , there you go , Ecuador

firemansam4

tobefrank321 wrote:

People think the US are doing badly but per 1 million they are streets ahead of the likes of Belgium, Italy, Sweden, UK and Spain.

The US as a whole can't really be compared to anywhere yet as many States are well behind in the timescale of this virus.

New York alone Is shocking, and if other states start following a similar trajectory then the numbers in the US as a whole will start to look very dire. Hopefully for them other states won't see the kind of numbers they have seen in New York.

patnor1011

wakka12 wrote: »

You said if this virus was real it would be causing a lot of deaths in poor countries because of poor healthcare , there you go , Ecuador

Ecuador.
Number 83 out of 100 poorest countries in the world.

So one out of a hundred. With a population of 17 milion. Come on you can do better.

SeaBreezes

Minnie Snuggles wrote: »

This is absolutely harrowing, but I think you should read it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52196815

Ties in with the following report indicating how it attacks the heart..

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200415/covid-19-can-trigger-serious-heart-injuries

Horrific times.

Richard Hillman

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Simple Simon: "Trump's WHO decision is inexcusable"

Early March:

Kingston Mills: "We should close the borders. Why haven't we done it?"

Simple Simon: Eh, Urm, Err….... we're in the EU, its about freedom of movement"




Inexcusable decisions indeed...

Coveney always had his ambitions on getting a UN gig. Varadkar wants an EU gig. They will put all of our wellbeing at risk to get themselves there.

The day Slovenia closed their border to Italy, the likes of Pascal Donohue and Harris were banging on about hurting Italian peoples feelings and free movement is at the core of the EU. And Slovenia, considering their proximity have done a tremendous job.

There is a clique there that are absolutely brainwashed by the EU.

Blueshoe

Reports of second lockdown in Wuhan.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/china-quietly-puts-lockdowns-on-wuhan-residential-compounds-as-virus-continues-to-spread_3312456.html

Rte should fund a show where blind boy goes to investigate

xabi

patnor1011 wrote: »

Seriously? You do have some reading to do before you try to be condescending.

I would like to see proof that the current test is detecting all coronavirus.

Curious_Case

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It would be gold if a reporter asked Trump if he will be buying any of Iran's latest apparatus to detect the virus at 100 metres in 5 seconds...



https://ifpnews.com/iran-develops-smart-system-detect-coronavirus-5-seconds

That looks like something from an Aldi or Lidl brochure

Party table* with built in barbecue, stereo bluetooth speakers & handheld satellite receiver
All that's missing is a turntable
*Urban guerilla gear sold separately

eagle eye

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

Why are you calling him "simple"?

Seems a very clever and capable man to me.

Plenty of mistakes made by him during this pandemic, add the Children's hospital fiasco and it's easy to see how he has earned that nickname.

fritzelly

xabi wrote: »

I would like to see proof that the current test is detecting all coronavirus.

It's designed for the genetics of COVID-19, same as the flu test tests for flu and the MERS test tests for MERS and the SARS test tests for SARS and so on an so on
Tho there is a company in the north that have a test that tests for a variety of the different viruses (cannot remember the name and too late to bother googling it)

Only idiots believe the test is picking up any old coronavirus including the common cold and giving a positive - if you don't believe that then look at all the people dying from it.