Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

What Username Guidelines

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Another jump in Italy 3,786 new cases and 525 new deaths

look at the Italian data - they tend to get 3 low days followed by 4 high days, but the lower than the previous high days

is_that_so

road_high wrote: »

Is there any evidence of it going away over summer months?

Unknown but not something anyone is banking on, except Trump.

RugbyLad11

I see the guards no longer have checkpoint set up in the city, why did it stop?

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ireland/leinster/dublin/dublin-o-connell-street.html

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/MKWilliamsRome/status/1250820527503151105

wakka12

road_high wrote: »

Is there any evidence of it going away over summer months?

Theres no evidence but that doesnt mean its not possible

1641

silverharp wrote: »

I see Belgium has the highest rate of deaths in the world 419 per million, do they have a nursing home problem?

Belgium include care homes, etc. in their numbers , unlike many others (including neighbours Holland).

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

I think they'll go with the original May 5th once the testing system is up and running. Not much information to be had from one extra week.

Don't know what they will go with, but 4 weeks after dropping below 1 is two full incubation cycles, which to me makes sense

Mic 1972

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Italy one of the worst-hit countries during the coronavirus pandemic, have re-opened thousands of businesses this week, with millions of workers heading back to their job.
Dont understand it myself.

3K cases for a 60 million people country is less in % than the daily increases we get here

RugbyLad11

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I see the guards no longer have checkpoint set up in the city, why did it stop?

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ireland/leinster/dublin/dublin-o-connell-street.html

If checkpiont is always in the same place its kind of pointless

Sam Russell

Do not forget that testing is about 14 days behind infection, and death perhaps another 10 to twenty days behind infection.

So, we are not quite into seeing the lockdown affecting infection, and a few weeks before the deaths start showing the effect of the lockdown.

Let us hope that they begin to show soon.

fr336

Amusing seeing the "we must get the economy going but protect the vunerable" posts - do people realise how many vunerable people live with younger, healthier people? Let's be honest, it's just window dressing. Once our own house is in order, we don't give a stuff about the community at large - we want our "freedom" and right here right now wasteful economy back.

Wombatman

expectationlost wrote: »

lidl managers fault

was it portmarnock?

https://twitter.com/ArleneJCock/status/1250799049646714880

cork street ?
https://twitter.com/MichelleAMKC/status/1250780739089678337

Rathfarnham
https://twitter.com/RoisinMcGarr/status/1250707300026851328

castlebar
https://twitter.com/lidl_ireland/status/1250756152469618689

Maybe we are seeing the "“behavioral fatigue” the British predicted?

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

Don't know what they will go with, but 4 weeks after dropping below 1 is two full incubation cycles, which to me makes sense

It's not just R0, the testing system is a big element of getting out of this. The problem of an extra week is the much greater risk of people just flouting it as a week just looks like a random number.

caveat emptor

That deal on the private hospital beds looking like a farce.

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1250816347115851778?s=20

Snow Garden

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientists-in-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'
Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.

“Let’s call it pure luck,” he said. “We decided to choose coronavirus as a model for our system just as a proof of concept for our technology.”

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8225759/Protesters-swarm-Michigan-North-Carolina-Ohio-Utah-Wyoming-demonstrate-lockdown-orders.html

Could gather traction. This is what Trump is speaking of when he claims people want to open up, they want to go back to normal.

Red for Danger

Does anyone really know what the **** is going on or what to do...

is_that_so

Wombatman wrote: »

Maybe we are seeing the "“behavioural fatigue” the British predicted?

I don't think we are too far off it. We can probably do the 18 more days but beyond that we need to see something happen.

Stateofyou

Red for Danger wrote: »

Does anyone really know what the **** is going on or what to do...

I think we're all what the f-k'g right now.

wakka12

Six funerals per hour at some churches and cemeteries in Madrid
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-between-30-and-50-funerals-a-day-being-held-at-spanish-church-11974190

"It is worse than a war" - that's how families burying their dead in Spain's worst hit region are describing the impact of the coronavirus.

smelly sock

Mic 1972 wrote: »

There is no reason for a couple or a family of 3 to go shopping together. Nobody enjoys the lockdown, we are following specific rules for our own safety not for fun

Yes there is. Primary carers without anyone to step in and mind their loved one is a good reason why they both might have to go.

It's no liner this thing. The rules need to be flexible to allow people to continue to function while at home. Again your another one who comes on here spouting nonsense about people not isolating etc but give no solutions to issues I have highlighted above.

Mic 1972

expectationlost wrote:

was it portmarnock?

https://twitter.com/ArleneJCock/stat...99049646714880

cork street ?
https://twitter.com/MichelleAMKC/sta...80739089678337

Rathfarnham
https://twitter.com/RoisinMcGarr/sta...07300026851328

castlebar
https://twitter.com/lidl_ireland/sta...56152469618689

I'm glad people are starting to report it, I noticed that too in my local LIDL
People are just idiots

road_high

fr336 wrote: »

Amusing seeing the "we must get the economy going but protect the vunerable" posts - do people realise how many vunerable people live with younger, healthier people? Let's be honest, it's just window dressing. Once our own house is in order, we don't give a stuff about the community at large - we want our "freedom" and right here right now wasteful economy back.

With all due respect it’s not as cut and dry. People have huge bills and repayments to meet, put food on the table etc. These are not selfish motivations

RugbyLad11

Deleted User wrote: »

If checkpiont is always in the same place its kind of pointless

But it acts as a deterrent to stop people entering city if not needed, they were stopping buses and most buses go through the city

sonofenoch

Red for Danger wrote: »

Does anyone really know what the **** is going on or what to do...

Dunno but I'm beginning to think I need to catch a dose of this thing to justify all this to myself

smelly sock

caveat emptor wrote: »

That deal on the private hospital beds looking like a farce.

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1250816347115851778?s=20

Surely these beds and hospitals can be brought into state ownership for the duration of this things. Id have thought this could be legislated for quick enough.

Obviously the Fine Gael landlord party have vested interests in profit making hospitals and pharmacy's so this won't happen.

Mic 1972

smelly sock wrote: »

Yes there is. Primary carers without anyone to step in and mind their loved one is a good reason why they both might have to go.

It's no liner this thing. The rules need to be flexible to allow people to continue to function while at home. Again your another one who comes on here spouting nonsense about people not isolating etc but give no solutions to issues I have highlighted above.

what you call nonsense is the standard rule in most affected countries.

One person per household is very basic easily applicable rule. Couples don't need to both go shopping together, plain and simple. Social distancing is also all over the place at the moment. I'm glad I'm not the only one taking notice of what happens in LIDL

smelly sock

road_high wrote: »

With all due respect it’s not as cut and dry. People have huge bills and repayments to meet, put food on the table etc. These are not selfish motivations

Valid concerns too. People who want a lockdown for the foreseeable future are not putting any solutions forward on how to subsidise this and the economy.

babybuilder

Snow Garden wrote: »

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientists-in-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

Says original article was from February this year. Updated in 7 April. Many commercial labs fast tracking R&D. Time will tell.

Tony EH

fr336 wrote: »

Amusing seeing the "we must get the economy going but protect the vunerable" posts

They're just parroting tripe they're hearing online.

Stateofyou

smelly sock wrote: »

Valid concerns too. People who want a lockdown for the foreseeable future are not putting any solutions forward on how to subsidise this and the economy.

It's not their job to put forward solutions. There are qualified people in charge of doing that.

Hector Savage

wakka12 wrote: »

Six funerals per hour at some churches and cemeteries in Madrid
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-between-30-and-50-funerals-a-day-being-held-at-spanish-church-11974190

China did this

smelly sock

Mic 1972 wrote: »

what you call nonsense is the standard rule in most affected countries.

One person per household is very basic easily applicable rule. Couples don't need to both go shopping together, plain and simple

Answer the question. If a carer of a person with nobody else in their lives to help out need to get essentials what do they do? If deliveries are delayed what do they do? They simply need to bring the person they are caring for with them.

Iamabeliever

I cant help but feel if Sinn Fein were in charge, things may have been different

Tony EH

caveat emptor wrote: »

That deal on the private hospital beds looking like a farce.

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1250816347115851778?s=20

Colour me unsurprised.

Hector Savage

Snow Garden wrote: »

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientists-in-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

Fantastic!
And no surprise the great state of Israel is behind it.

jackboy

Leo softening us for an extension of restrictions after 5th May.

smelly sock

Stateofyou wrote: »

It's not their job to put forward solutions. There are qualified people in charge of doing that.

Haha easy get out there.

So shoot down everyone with a legitimate concern over income and the economy and then use that nugget.

Mic 1972

smelly sock wrote: »

Answer the question. If a carer of a person with nobody else in their lives to help out need to get essentials what do they do? If deliveries are delayed what do they do? They simply need to bring the person they are caring for with them.

That's not what i reported. Couples where both are healthy enough to go around should not be both shopping at the same time

is_that_so

Red for Danger wrote: »

Does anyone really know what the **** is going on or what to do...

Well, restrictions are still in place and will be till 5th May. Numbers going into hospital and ICU are stable, a key factor, testing system aiming to get to 48 hour turnaround and go back to the looser case definition. Meanwhile planning underway to decide how to get out of this, hopefully from the 5th May. And it's another lovely day!

coastwatch

Iamabeliever wrote: »

I cant help but feel if Sinn Fein were in charge, things may have been different

Yep, an awful lot worse

Stateofyou

smelly sock wrote: »

Haha easy get out there.

So shoot down everyone with a legitimate concern over income and the economy and then use that nugget.

I haven't shot anyone down, what on earth are you on about. I simply stated reality. At the end of the day some average Joe here can put forward ideas/solutions but it's those in charge who will make the decisions. Chew on that nugget.

easypazz

jackboy wrote: »

Leo softening us for an extension of restrictions after 5th May.

No chance. people have done their bit. If they made a balls of it resign.

A very short extension followed by a clear plan is about as much as they will get away with.

is_that_so

jackboy wrote: »

Leo softening us for an extension of restrictions after 5th May.

Not really, he's just towing the CMO/HSE/NEPHT line of it being too early to say and just fobbing off the increasingly dumb questions from journalists. Look at how I don't know got legs as something else.

quartz1

Any truth to a rumour that a Fruit Company in Ireland flew in 180 fruit pickers from Bulgaria on a single chartered flight last weekend. Not much social distancing in that flight

MarkY91

easypazz wrote: »

No chance. people have done their bit. If they made a balls of it resign.

A very short extension followed by a clear plan is about as much as they will get away with.

How is it Leo's fault that the virus won't be gone until it's gone?

Is it his fault that people are scruff bags and have no sense of hygiene?

jackboy

easypazz wrote: »

No chance. people have done their bit. If they made a balls of it resign.

A very short extension followed by a clear plan is about as much as they will get away with.

Leo essentially said we will have to see how things go. Sounds like there is no plan yet.

Hector Savage

So italy and spain curve is levelling, but doesn't seem any where near dropping - which is a surprise since we have had 2 incubation periods at least now in lockdown, I would have expected rates to be falling by now.

Looks like a long long long time ahead with this lockdown bs

Jinglejangle69

easypazz wrote: »

No chance. people have done their bit. If they made a balls of it resign.

A very short extension followed by a clear plan is about as much as they will get away with.

People have done their bit?

Some have, many have not.

Stop making it political.

BorneTobyWilde

Trump is right about peoples mental health suffering in lockdown situations.