Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

So, I have a distant elderly relative in a nursing home. The Nursing Home is based in the East of the country (Ireland).

By a simple google search, that took less than 5 minutes, I was able to determine that in the last 10 days, there were 7 recorded deaths in that particular nursing home (at least).

To say i'm worried is an understatement. While some of these death could well be from natural causes, there's no doubt in my mind that some are Covid-19 related as 7 deaths in 10 days just doesn't seem normal to me.

I won't dare mention this to my relatives- but I'm absolutely gutted and a lot more worried now than i was to date.

is_that_so

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump is right about peoples mental health suffering in lockdown situations.

Yeah, broken clock and all that.

Jinglejangle69

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump is right about peoples mental health suffering in lockdown situations.

Why are people still using the word lockdown??

There has been nothing close to a lockdown in Ireland and people are crying about loosing their minds.

Kids aren't as bad as these morons.

Professor Moriarty

Stateofyou wrote: »

I haven't shot anyone down, what on earth are you on about. I simply stated reality. At the end of the day some average Joe here can put forward ideas/solutions but it's those in charge who will make the decisions. Chew on that nugget.

Rubbish. I have it on good authority that Varadkar, Harris and Holohan read this thread from start to finish before every Covid-19 meeting. They'd be fools not to.

Stateofyou

Deleted User wrote: »

So, I have a distant elderly relative in a nursing home. The Nursing Home is based in the East of the country (Ireland).

By a simple google search, that took less than 5 minutes, I was able to determine that in the last 10 days, there were 7 recorded deaths in that particular nursing home (at least).

To say i'm worried is an understatement. While some of these death could well be from natural causes, there's no doubt in my mind that some are Covid-19 related as 7 deaths in 10 days just doesn't seem normal to me.

I won't dare mention this to my relatives- but I'm absolutely gutted and a lot more worried now than i was to date.

How upsetting for you Wishing your family the best.

RugbyLad11

easypazz wrote: »

No chance. people have done their bit. If they made a balls of it resign.

A very short extension followed by a clear plan is about as much as they will get away with.

Exactly! I don't think people would take another 3 week lockdown. I haven't seen my GF since lockdown because we live in separate households

Stateofyou

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Rubbish. I have it on good authority that Varadkar, Harris and Holohan read this thread from start to finish before every Covid-19 meeting. They'd be fools not to.

On good authority, eh?
Tbh it wouldn't surprise me at all that they were kept informed of the pulse or mood in the country in various ways, and boards is probably one of the sources for that.

RugbyLad11

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Why are people still using the word lockdown??

There has been nothing close to a lockdown in Ireland and people are crying about loosing their minds.

Kids aren't as bad as these morons.

Nothing close to a lockdown? we've never seen anything like this in the history of our state

Gynoid

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Exactly! I don't think people would take another 3 week lockdown. I haven't seen my GF since lockdown because we live in separate households

Ahaaaa!! I had forgotten about this aspect. No wonder there are frayed tempers about these parts.

Iamabeliever

coastwatch wrote: »

Yep, an awful lot worse

No true, they know what the people want!

expectationlost

Wombatman wrote: »

Maybe we are seeing the "“behavioral fatigue” the British predicted?

its the manager to dictate the volume of people in the store

BorneTobyWilde

<mod edit> Not okay to post that...

owlbethere

What's the story about contact tracing? Has it failed here in Ireland? I know someone who had to go to hospital 2 weeks ago. The person is now sick, waiting on a test. Not once was she called and notified and asked to isolate in case she was infected.

fr336

easypazz wrote: »

No chance. people have done their bit. If they made a balls of it resign.

A very short extension followed by a clear plan is about as much as they will get away with.

People have done their bit? Laughable. The government didn't create the virus. Why do you think China locked down COMPLETELY the worst affected areas for THREE months? The west is a joke.

Stateofyou

Stateofyou wrote: »

How upsetting for you Wishing your family the best.

Thanks for your support- I was hoping that the nursing home in question was one of the lucky ones not affected by Covid-19 and I guess curiosity got the better of me. They've isolated all clients in their rooms now- obviously visitors have been banned for weeks but only recently have they started the room only isolation so things must have escalated in recent times.
I know they're doing their best under the circumstances but the figure i quoted for this nursing home alone, just shows how bad things are out there- these vulnerable people really do need all of our support at this time.

Tony EH

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump is right about peoples mental health suffering in lockdown situations.

Like he's the only one who's said it. :rolleyes:

Nate--IRL--

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump is right about peoples mental health suffering in lockdown situations.

This thread is certainly evidence of that

Nate

hotmail.com

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Nothing close to a lockdown? we've never seen anything like this in the history of our state

Local parks are packed.

smelly sock

Mic 1972 wrote: »

That's not what i reported. Couples where both are healthy enough to go around should not be both shopping at the same time

How would you know their health status? Physical and mental.

You're well aware there are potential valid reasons for more than one person from a household to be shopping together.

fr336

People will happily sign up to Love Island for two months but can't take a life saving lockdown. The west is hilarious...

Ace2007

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Exactly! I don't think people would take another 3 week lockdown. I haven't seen my GF since lockdown because we live in separate households

Lucky you - you be broken up if you lived together

Professor Moriarty

Stateofyou wrote: »

On good authority, eh?
Tbh it wouldn't surprise me at all that they were kept informed of the pulse or mood in the country in various ways, and boards is probably one of the sources for that.

Yeah, this thread isn't the pulse of the country though. In real life, I find people are much more rational.

Fann Linn

hotmail.com wrote: »

Local parks are packed.

Yep. And the daughter told me they were having picnics at the foot of the Rock of Cashel last weekend.

Ace2007

Deleted User wrote: »

So, I have a distant elderly relative in a nursing home. The Nursing Home is based in the East of the country (Ireland).

By a simple google search, that took less than 5 minutes, I was able to determine that in the last 10 days, there were 7 recorded deaths in that particular nursing home (at least).

To say i'm worried is an understatement. While some of these death could well be from natural causes, there's no doubt in my mind that some are Covid-19 related as 7 deaths in 10 days just doesn't seem normal to me.

I won't dare mention this to my relatives- but I'm absolutely gutted and a lot more worried now than i was to date.

The next of Kin would/should be made aware of the situation in the nursing home at anyone time.

BanditLuke

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Exactly! I don't think people would take another 3 week lockdown. I haven't seen my GF since lockdown because we live in separate households

1st World problem

Ace2007

easypazz wrote: »

No chance. people have done their bit. If they made a balls of it resign.

A very short extension followed by a clear plan is about as much as they will get away with.

"People" will you be out protesting if the restrictions aren't lifted?

fr336

road_high wrote: »

With all due respect it’s not as cut and dry. People have huge bills and repayments to meet, put food on the table etc. These are not selfish motivations

Nobody is going to starve from this. The government are paying an amount of people's wages. Those in the essential services such as nurses, retail workers etc live hand to mouth like this all the time and they manage. I don't really care if people can't have their usual luxuries during a once in a lifetime pandemic situation.

Mic 1972

hotmail.com wrote: »

Local parks are packed.

Yep same here, but wait for some smart ass saying that nobody is going out and people are perfectly respecting the restrictions.
There is a green in front of my house, some neighbors are having a chat right now, the weather is too nice for the lock down i guess

BanditLuke

Fann Linn wrote: »

Yep. And the daughter told me they were having picnics at the foot of the Rock of Cashel last weekend.

Madness. Mark my words restrictions aren't going anywhere and will need to be properly enforced.

silverharp

1641 wrote: »

Belgium include care homes, etc. in their numbers , unlike many others (including neighbours Holland).

thanks, that would do it

is_that_so

hotmail.com wrote: »

Local parks are packed.

Allegedly! Where are the pics?

Ace2007

Fann Linn wrote: »

Yep. And the daughter told me they were having picnics at the foot of the Rock of Cashel last weekend.

Hope you told her to cop on?

Ace2007

Ace2007 wrote: »

The next of Kin would/should be made aware of the situation in the nursing home at anyone time.

So, just FYI, no they definitely are not stating anything about the virus to next of kin- the next of kin is elderly too- but I believe there's no onus on the nursing home to tell people that the virus is within the building (but quite happy to be corrected if I'm wrong here)- at least none that i know of- obviously if the client does get covid-19, then yes, next of kin will be informed.

hotmail.com

is_that_so wrote: »

Allegedly! Where are the pics?

Go to your local park and see.

coastwatch

Iamabeliever wrote: »

No true, they know what the people want!

Yes, all of this to end.
So do we all.

podgeandrodge

Mic 1972 wrote: »

...
There is a green in front of my house, some neighbors are having a chat right now...

Jesus H Christ. Whatever next :eek:

Fann Linn

Ace2007 wrote: »

Hope you told her to cop on?

She was on her way home from work and saw them there.

Ace2007

Deleted User wrote: »

So, just FYI, no they definitely are not stating anything about the virus to next of kin- the next of kin is elderly too- but I believe there's no onus on the nursing home to tell people that the virus is within the building (but quite happy to be corrected if I'm wrong here)- at least none that i know of- obviously if the client does get covid-19, then yes, next of kin will be informed.

I would still think if next of kin asked the question, the nursing home would have to tell them if any resident had the virus - purely on the basis that no resident is a prisoner, and if they knew they may have the option of moving out.

I was basing my original comment on a private nursing homes communication and assumed it was standard practice as why would they bother telling people otherwise.

is_that_so

hotmail.com wrote: »

Go to your local park and see.

No need to as it's beside the Garda station. Don't imagine what annoys you is widespread. To quote the CMO again, it's most people doing most things most of the time.

Martina1991

owlbethere wrote: »

What's the story about contact tracing? Has it failed here in Ireland? I know someone who had to go to hospital 2 weeks ago. The person is now sick, waiting on a test. Not once was she called and notified and asked to isolate in case she was infected.

Contact tracing is performed on positive cases and contacts of known positive cases.
If they're still waiting on a test why would they be contacted when their status is unknown

Hobgoblin11

I went out for a 5k cycle yesterday there were teenagers everywhere out breaking the curfew

is_that_so

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

I went out for a 5k cycle yesterday there were teenagers everywhere out breaking the curfew

What did you see again?

Red for Danger

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, restrictions are still in place and will be till 5th May. Numbers going into hospital and ICU are stable, a key factor, testing system aiming to get to 48 hour turnaround and go back to the looser case definition. Meanwhile planning underway to decide how to get out of this, hopefully from the 5th May. And it's another lovely day!

Yeah maybe we're doing the right thing or maybe not, maybe just exhausting ourselves and money before the race has begun.
Hard to say!don't think anyone knows.
In 8 weeks or 7 years time we'll look back and it might appear as if some countries were spot on in their approach or it might be obvious they were luckiest or everyone might end up in the exact same boat.
Who knows!

Ace2007

is_that_so wrote: »

What did you see again?

you know it's 2km radius??

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

Go to your local park and see.

Everyone is pretty much 2 metres apart in mine. It might look busy, but when you look closer you see that social distancing is being observed

is_that_so

Red for Danger wrote: »

Yeah maybe we're doing the right thing or maybe not, maybe just exhausting ourselves and money before the race has begun.
Hard to say!don't think anyone knows.
In 8 weeks or 7 years time we'll look back and it might appear as if some countries were spot on in their approach or it might be obvious they were luckiest or everyone might end up in the exact same boat.
Who knows!

Stay positive!:)

podgeandrodge

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

There has been nothing close to a lockdown in Ireland and people are crying about loosing their minds.

That would be because of the memos you mentioned about the "community spread being huge"...

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Just heard there is new memos going around in the HSE today the community spread is huge and the restrictions aren't working.

They are calling vulnerable people who aren't over 70 encouraging them to cocoon.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Unfortunately it appears to be true. I found the memo floating around myself. :eek:;)

hotmail.com

is_that_so wrote: »

No need to as it's beside the Garda station. Don't imagine what annoys you is widespread. To quote the CMO again, it's most people doing most things most of the time.

Oh did it come across as if I was annoyed?

I was replying to someone saying this is a lockdown. I pointed out that local parks are packed.

It's not a lockdown.

is_that_so

Ace2007 wrote: »

you know it's 2km radius??

Yeah, I am more amused at the distance cycled and how the outraged poster was also "breaking the curfew".

hotmail.com

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Everyone is pretty much 2 metres apart in mine. It might look busy, but when you look closer you see that social distancing is being observed

Why are people calling it a lockdown then?