Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

branie2

RIP. the 43 people who died

expectationlost

briefing https://www.pscp.tv/rtenews/1BRJjQeQgVWGw

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

For a small country like ours, 43 deaths seems huge.

A sad but inevitable reality of Covid-19. Hopefully the numbers start to fall from here, one death is too many.

polesheep

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Numbers in ICU drop again today

This is beaten, bar in the nursing homes. We need to start moving on and throw huge resources at the nursing homes - something we should have done at the start.

podgeandrodge

Speak Now wrote: »

Please don't screenshot the fake letter.

Please do. I believe it was addressed to "Dear Pub Owner"

Gael23

FVP3 wrote: »

It does look like the virus is next to non-existant outside the care homes. We will need a fairly thorough investigation of nursing homes after all this.

Did they give a breakdown of how many of those that died were in residential care?

An Ciarraioch

FVP3 wrote: »

Not really. Cases are falling. Deaths are disappointing but its still relatively stagnant in terms of daily changes.

Unfortunately, as TH says, appears deaths are comparatively low in the general community, but extremely high in nursing homes.

ACitizenErased

The death toll is going to increase significantly because of the nursing home clusters, I’m not sure why people are surprised by the death toll today

Ficheall

Where is there a list of ICU and hospitalized numbers for the past few weeks?

tobefrank321

If the R0 is less than 1 new cases should decrease.

Yet Harris says we should be careful as new cases are on the increase.

Am I missing something here?

The only way cases can increase if the R0 is 1 or lower is from imported cases.

FVP3

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes, my mam and dad are actually in lockdown in Spain now for weeks at this stage. One of them can go out once a day, to the farmacía or the supermercado.
They don't f*ck around either, my 66 year old mother has been stopped twice by the police going to the shops, and had to explain exactly what she's doing.

So they can go out. Ive been stopped by cops too. And Spain has allowed non-essential workers to resume work, so we are in fact more locked down than Spain right now.

stephenjmcd

polesheep wrote: »

This is beaten, bar in the nursing homes. We need to start moving on and throw huge resources at the nursing homes - something we should have done at the start.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1250846071594659842?s=19

Jim_Hodge

hotmail.com wrote: »

It seems a bit chaotic to me.

Your constant bickering negativity is wearing. What's your rush for the figures? This isn't an entertainment programme.

polesheep

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1250846071594659842?s=19

That's a massive statement from Dr Holohan regarding two experiences.

Mic 1972

You should always look at the numbers per million
We are not really doing that great compared to the most infected countries in the world at the moment

wakka12

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Bad as they are, and every death is a grieving family, they are most certainly not huge.

43 death deaths in one day in a country of our size is huge, absolutely. It is more than a 50% increase of the average national mortality rate on a typical day

If we were same size as France/Italy/UK which are all about 12/13x times our population ,it would be 560 deaths, we are not at the level of deaths in continental Europe but not miles behind either.

ACitizenErased

The curve has flatted significantly

Jim_Hodge

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If the R0 is less than 1 new cases should decrease.

Yet Harris says we should be careful as new cases are on the increase.

Am I missing something here?

The only way cases can increase if the R0 is 1 or lower is from imported cases.

R0 of .7 gives 700 new cases for 1000 existing.

Harry Palmr

Jasus RTE's camera work is ****e, they must know they need more than one camera or the readiness to do an insert graphic

Mic 1972

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The curve has flatted significantly

which curve?
the daily deaths have reached a new high today, no sign of a decrease there

ACitizenErased

Why isn’t the interpreter moving towards the graph?

is_that_so

TheDoctor wrote: »

Numbers very low from Germany today.

Can we read that the backlog of 30k sent over has pretty much been cleared?

Yep, should be more or less it. If they report Germany it will be for current tests and I'd say there will just be in total number.

ACitizenErased

Mic 1972 wrote: »

which curve?
the daily deaths have reached a new high today, no sign of a decrease there

If you watch the briefing right now you’d know.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Jasus RTE's camera work is ****e, they must know they need more than one camera or the readiness to do an insert graphic

I doubt it's rte doing the camera work. Virgin media have the same feed when they are showing it on their news stations or on the Internet.

ACitizenErased

“Growth in the community is close to zero” after German tests have been backdated. - Prof. Nolan

Harry Palmr

Mic 1972 wrote: »

which curve?
the daily deaths have reached a new high today, no sign of a decrease there

DO YOU UNDERSTAND FLATTENING THE CURVE?

tobefrank321

Only 8 of the new deaths were nursing homes.

253 vs 245 yesterday.

Ficheall

ACitizenErased wrote: »

If you watch the briefing right now you’d know.

Not necessarily, given the camerawork.

Jim_Hodge

wakka12 wrote: »

43 death deaths in one day in a country of our size is huge, absolutely. It is more than a 50% increase of the average national mortality rate on a typical day

Of course, but we're taking in the context of the number of cases to date, the number of hospital cases and a pandemic situation.

Unfortunately deaths will continue to rise, based on the number of patients still seriously ill.

Ace2007

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Only 8 of the new deaths were nursing homes.

253 vs 245 yesterday.

When they saying nursing homes - does that mean died in the nursing home, or was form a nursing home origin?

Iamabeliever

Is the curve flattening because of the good weather? - if so there is no for lockdown

Harry Palmr

Nothing to do with weather. Covid 19 is not heat sensitive.

Gonna have to wait for the tweets for a decent look at the graphs.

ACitizenErased

High level of confidence “that the reproduction number is now below 1” - Prof. Nolan

tobefrank321

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

R0 of .7 gives 700 new cases for 1000 existing.

Yes. But he said new cases are rising. They should be falling if R0 is less than 1. Maybe he said it badly and meant to say we still have new cases.

New cases rising means R0 over 1.

Paddygreen

hotmail.com wrote: »

Lots of people having drinks in other households over the weekend.

A few doses of a tazer and some pepper spray is how these types should be dealt with. That along with heavy fines and detention in a secure facility for repeat offenders. The proverbial ton of bricks needs to come down on offenders of this nature. Time to take the velvet glove off the iron fist.

polesheep

Harry Palmr wrote: »

DO YOU UNDERSTAND FLATTENING THE CURVE?

Do you not realise that this virus has finally given him a life and when it is all over his brief butterfly existence will be ended? Spare a thought.

coastwatch

ACitizenErased wrote: »

“Growth in the community is close to zero” after German tests have been backdated. - Prof. Nolan

Best news since the start of this.

Witcher

Paddygreen wrote: »

A few doses of a tazer and some pepper spray is how these types should be dealt with. That along with heavy fines and detention in a secure facility for repeat offenders. The proverbial ton of bricks needs to come down on offenders of this nature. Time to take the velvet glove off the iron fist.

Yeah torture fantasies will help with this alright...christ

'Tasers and eh pepper spray and a...a...kick in the coin purse for the lads'

Get a grip:pac:

Hobgoblin11

is_that_so wrote: »

What did you see again?

it wasn't 5k away from, it was a semi circle, I was never more than 2k from my home

Jim_Hodge

Mic 1972 wrote: »

You should always look at the numbers per million
We are not really doing that great compared to the most infected countries in the world at the moment

Do you even understand the numbers and how they are calculated? Do you know that most countries are not including nursing homes, deaths outside a hospital, or deaths where an underlying issue was the main contributor?

tobefrank321

Ace2007 wrote: »

When they saying nursing homes - does that mean died in the nursing home, or was form a nursing home origin?

He said 253 are from nursing homes. I presume it means within the homes and outside in hospitals.

smelly sock

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

it wasn't 5k away from, it was a semi circle, I was never more than 2k from my home

Source

fullstop

ACitizenErased wrote: »

If you watch the briefing right now you’d know.

You may as well talk to the wall as respond to that kind of post. It’s the same thing day after day, after day.

thomas 123

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Yes. But he said new cases are rising. They should be falling if R0 is less than 1. Maybe he said it badly and meant to say we still have new cases.

New cases rising means R0 over 1.

It can be 0.99 also, just because it’s less than one does not mean it’s 0.

Curious_Case

Mic 1972 wrote: »

which curve?
the daily deaths have reached a new high today, no sign of a decrease there

If, for instance, we were incurring 40 deaths per day that would be the same every day so no change.

That is what they mean when they refer to a zero rate of change, it means no longer getting worse but not yet getting better, the peak of the curve.

Coyote

Number updated to match today's report, I have included the total numbers reported today
I have added the number died in the chart in yellow
recent cases growth
12-4-2020 4.8%
13-4-2020 5.46%
14-4-2020 5.15%
15-4-2020 5.55%
16-4-2020 5.01%

No Change in number


Slow Change


Big Drop in numbers


if we only grow at the rate of 7.8% this day next month we would have 4,000 deaths
if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late

I think this site is one of the best as it allows you to change and check the visualization of covid19
http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/


Deaths by country

niallo27

Harris really is pulling figures out of his hole, 1700 dead this day next week if nothing was done. Italy had nobody near that before any restrictions. This would relate to about 20k deaths a day in Italy. I dont think bull**** like this is helping.

SEPT 23 1989

May is not happening so

BanditLuke

wakka12 wrote: »

43 death deaths in one day in a country of our size is huge, absolutely. It is more than a 50% increase of the average national mortality rate on a typical day

If we were same size as France/Italy/UK which are all about 12/13x times our population ,it would be 560 deaths, we are not at the level of deaths in continental Europe but not miles behind either.

For an island we need to be doing better.

poppers

Sounds like its under control in the community. Unfortunately it seems to be rampant in the nursing homes