Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Hobgoblin11

Another high number of deaths, can't believe a 23 year is amongst the dead!

crossman47

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Another high number of deaths, can't believe a 23 year is amongst the dead!

RIP to him or her but not strange if they has some illness.

Sober Crappy Chemis

smelly sock wrote: »

Im picking up on an under CURRANT of humour here.

This is the currant affairs forum, so it's vine.

SeaBreezes

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah maybe so. In science everything should be taken with a large grain of salt. He is a noble laureate in the relevant field. I wouldn't dismiss him outright just because homeopathy used something he wrote to justify the pseudoscience.

Interesting story about the person who discovered retro viruses of which corona is one. Check it out if you are not into watching trump ramble on talking nonsense and making reporters wait.




https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pushkin-industries/revisionist-history/e/63387220

Love this doco, Detailing the work of Prof. Luc Montagnier, (Nobel Laureate winner) water has the ability to reproduce the properties of any substance it once contained. Water would have the ability to retain a memory of the properties of the molecules. Fascinating to see.

Hobgoblin11

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

This is the currant affairs forum, so it's vine.

sour grapes?

smelly sock

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Love this doco, Detailing the work of Prof. Luc Montagnier, (Nobel Laureate winner) water has the ability to reproduce the properties of any substance it once contained. Water would have the ability to retain a memory of the properties of the molecules. Fascinating to see.

Deadly ill give that a watch when ive read the whole internet.

billybonkers

All staff and residents in long term care facility to be tested

is_that_so

crossman47 wrote: »

RIP to him or her but not strange if they has some illness.

That 23 year old has been a part of the stats for a while.

froog

Michael Dwyer wrote: »

I take issue with saying someone talks nonsense because they're 87. David Attenborough is 94 next month, no problem with his mind.

i didn't say he talks nonsense because he's 87.

Cork Boy 53

autumnbelle wrote: »

The way colm looks at George lee ��

Over a pint of Harp?

jibber5000

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

This 'cocooning' or 'shielding' in the UK is straight out of the 'Herd Immunity' handbook. Let the virus run wild and lock the over 70s up for 4 months or more.

I am in agreement with the sentiments echoed here.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1

Not peer reviewed yet but fascinating at first glance.

In a nutshell serum antibody testing is just being rolled out here at the moment to see if a person is producing IgG antibodies to Covid meaning they have had the disease at some point.
This study took over 3000 random serum samples in California over 2 days and found a prevalence of 2.5 - 4.1% indicating levels of infection were 50-85 times reported cases.

Theoretically, could mean the number of asymptomatic people in the community is much higher than initially thought. Would put the mortality rate at circa .2% effectively not much higher than the flu.

1800_Ladladlad

597 new cases +112
44 deaths

RIP thoughts and prayers. will light a candle.

joe40

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Unlike those young whipper snappers Hillary, Bernie, Nancy and Mitt!

No that's the point, where are the younger politicians, or maybe why aren't they getting any traction. Way off topic it was just a thought I had.

Hobgoblin11

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

597 new cases +112
44 deaths

RIP thoughts and prayers. will light a candle.

why are Greece's deaths so low?

elperello

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Over a pint of Harp?

If you had a pint of Harp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4hmFPBf-C8

ChikiChiki

Mic 1972 wrote: »

at least they staying at home, here you can do it in your back garden with friends anytime

Why does such nonsense appear every so often.

In that video that's potentially 4 sets of people contaminated by such stupidity. One of them could even be an essential worker.

There are no "at leasts" about it.

s1ippy

Omg New Jersey https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52314860
17 bodies stuffed in a shed

Virginia Minnesota and Michigan reopening due to public pressure... Best of luck.

That Washington correspondent Brian O'Donovan is my favourite RTÉ personality. Brian O'Donovan for the Late Late

Scuid Mhór

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

This 'cocooning' or 'shielding' in the UK is straight out of the 'Herd Immunity' handbook. Let the virus run wild and lock the over 70s up for 4 months or more.

I am in agreement with the sentiments echoed here.

Hate to break this to you Rob, but people over seventy don't necessarily have the right to make their own health choices. For every person over seventy who unnecessarily goes out for a walk and gets infected, they are putting extra stress on our healthcare system - that's not just going to effect covid19 patients; it's going to have an effect on anyone needing healthcare services if we go past our ICU threshold. Different interests have to be balanced and frankly, not being able to go for a walk for a few months is not exactly the highest priority when we are talking about the continuity of the state's infrastructure.

timsey tiger

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

This 'cocooning' or 'shielding' in the UK is straight out of the 'Herd Immunity' handbook.

Logical fail. Affirming the conclusion

Gynoid

Re the infection / antibody study giving an indication that far more are infected thus mortality rates are much lower - that will be good if so. Means covid is not as dangerous to the individual.

But it also confirms that what we are seeing is a novel virus that could be quite or even very infectious, which means it is not as irrelevant to the population as a whole as say a flu virus even if it could possibly end up having a similar mortality rate.

Infectiousness is also why so many have ended up in hospitals or ICUs or as in Ecuadors case dead in the home in apparently much greater number.

The infectiousness of a new virus for which none of us had immunity is as much part of the issue with covid as the mortality rate. A lower than feared mortality rate is good - great even!- but a higher than expected infectiousness will increase overall mortality, which is what we are seeing at the moment with a 50% increase on our normal daily deaths in the Irish population.

s1ippy

s1ippy wrote: »

Omg New Jersey https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52314860
17 bodies stuffed in a shed

Virginia Minnesota and Michigan reopening due to public pressure... Best of luck.

That Washington correspondent Brian O'Donovan is my favourite RTÉ personality. Brian O'Donovan for the Late Late

Sorry, a "makeshift facility"

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/111554952

RTÉ news reported that they were found in a shed and I just Googled a corresponding article.

Just got the news today that it's got into my parents nursing home. Several cases and one death. Really scary times.

Jim_Hodge

s1ippy wrote: »

Omg New Jersey https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52314860
17 bodies stuffed in a shed

Virginia Minnesota and Michigan reopening due to public pressure... Best of luck.

That Washington correspondent Brian O'Donovan is my favourite RTÉ personality. Brian O'Donovan for the Late Late

It expressly said they found none in a shed but 17 in a morgue designed for 4

JP Liz V1

is_that_so wrote: »

That 23 year old has been a part of the stats for a while.

So not part of today's deaths?

Inquitus

Flying Fox wrote: »

Just got the news today that it's got into my parents nursing home. Several cases and one death. Really scary times.

All the best for your parents, thoughts and well wishes.

Professor Moriarty

Flying Fox wrote: »

Just got the news today that it's got into my parents nursing home. Several cases and one death. Really scary times.

That's tough. Best of luck to all.

Jim_Hodge

s1ippy wrote: »

Sorry, a "makeshift facility"

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/111554952

RTÉ news reported that they were found in a shed and I just Googled a corresponding article.

As the thread moves so quickly, maybe you should just edit the post.

is_that_so

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So not part of today's deaths?

I heard 23 mentioned one of the other days this week and another poster said it's been there for a while.

DOCARCH

Flying Fox wrote: »

Just got the news today that it's got into my parents nursing home. Several cases and one death. Really scary times.

Ditto to my mother's nursing home. Two residents confirmed cases and four staff. Very scary times!

bloodless_coup

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Danzy

smelly sock wrote: »

So less than half of a percent of the entire population?

Wuhan has a population of 11.5 million.

They locked the entire city in their homes for near 3 months it was tighter control than a maximum security prison.

Danzy

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Poor you.

Didn't he know who you were and how special you are?

easypazz

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Did he turn you around?

I am sure the guards are sick of it as well by now.

Wibbs

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

To the supermarket guard. Job done. Police state my arse. :rolleyes:

walshb

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Doing their job is unnecessary? Or the tone?

How does that work?

PowerToWait

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

This 'cocooning' or 'shielding' in the UK is straight out of the 'Herd Immunity' handbook. Let the virus run wild and lock the over 70s up for 4 months or more.

I am in agreement with the sentiments echoed here.

Have you an alternative? I have been staying put myself bar the weekly shop and I'm young enough. That's 5 weeks. If I have to do it another 4 months in the greater interest I will definitely survive it. I much prefer that than the alternative.

Tenzor07

Can't wait to see even half of the energy put into fist waving occuring against the strawberry pickers, in protesting against the arrival of a large number of UK based Irish-travellers who are coming over tomorrow for a funeral:

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/armed-gardai-on-standby-as-up-to-70-members-of-traveller-family-expected-to-travel-from-uk-for-funeral-39136756.html

timsey tiger

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Wow, how did you escape.

Hobgoblin11

Farmers importing workers during a lockdown, its obvious who wears the pants in this country

davemckenna25

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

What are you saying.....

he should have know where you were going... he should have used a nicer tone... or you above the Gardai asking you what you are doing?

Mr_Muffin

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

U OK hun? X xx

Post on twttier saying armed gardai on standby for traveller funeral of of to 70 people traveling from UK.

:mad:

smelly sock

s1ippy wrote: »

Omg New Jersey https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52314860
17 bodies stuffed in a shed

Virginia Minnesota and Michigan reopening due to public pressure... Best of luck.

That Washington correspondent Brian O'Donovan is my favourite RTÉ personality. Brian O'Donovan for the Late Late

Correct your post FFS.

Idiotic carry.

1 body in a shed. Rest in a morgue built for 4.

Stupid ****e.

bloodless_coup

Wibbs wrote: »

To the supermarket guard. Job done. Police state my arse. :rolleyes:

I said that, unfortunately he continued to harass me by interrogating me where I was coming from.

sonofenoch

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Get yourself a motorbike! I 've always been waved through or met with 'whats the craic' .........mind you you won't carry much shopping, I get someone else to do that

Hobgoblin11

Jake1 wrote: »

Post on twttier saying armed gardai on standby for traveller funeral of of to 70 people traveling from UK.

:mad:

armed gardai better be careful, the travellers haven't been social distancing

Rob A. Bank

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Hate to break this to you Rob, but people over seventy don't necessarily have the right to make their own health choices. For every person over seventy who unnecessarily goes out for a walk and gets infected, they are putting extra stress on our healthcare system - that's not just going to effect covid19 patients; it's going to have an effect on anyone needing healthcare services if we go past our ICU threshold. Different interests have to be balanced and frankly, not being able to go for a walk for a few months is not exactly the highest priority when we are talking about the continuity of the state's infrastructure.

Ahh I see, Dr. Zhong Nanshan age 83 and Dr. Anthony Fauci age 79 would not be allowed to go for their daily jogs if they lived in Ireland.

Just as I thought.

I distinctly remember the doctor with the glasses who sits to the right of the chief medical officer saying that it was very important to get out to exercise, at the end of the presser 2 days ago.

Over 70s don't need exercise ? I don't think you would get many Geriatricians who hold that view.

smelly sock

Danzy wrote: »

They locked the entire city in their homes for near 3 months it was tighter control than a maximum security prison.

Removing peoples human rights. The chinese? Nah......

PowerToWait

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Police state? I hardly see a Garda from one end of the month to the next in the normal run of things. When I do they almost always check my windscreen is decorated correctly and wave me on.

Did he make you get out of your car, present ID, search you, look for a backsheesh?

ChikiChiki

doylefe wrote: »

Driving from my house to the supermarket, got stopped by a guard who said "where are you goin" in a very rude and accusatory tone.

Police state is here. Completely unnecessary.

Howya Gemma ya mad ting wha.