Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Duke of Url

Shadylou wrote: »

Where?

Antrim

zinfandel

New Home wrote: »

There's a makeshift mortuary being set up near Heuston Station. Source: someone I know who can see it from his window.

a temporary mortuary is not the same as mass graves!

Duke of Url

MeTheMan wrote: »

Rumor I heard was Longford. I laughed it off tbh.

I wouldn’t.

New Home

zinfandel wrote: »

a temporary mortuary is not the same as mass graves!

I know, but the bodies stored there will have to go somewhere.

MrMusician18

New Home wrote: »

There's a makeshift mortuary being set up near Heuston Station. Source: someone I know who can see it from his window.

The one in the carpark of Royal Hospital Kilmainham has been public knowledge for some weeks

NelRom

Seems like it was still the plan Apr 5th

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/grim-reality-of-covid-19-hits-home-as-huge-temporary-mortuary-set-up-in-dublin-car-park/ar-BB12c6Ix?li=BBr5KbJ

Looney1

We hear of new grave sites, new mortuary field hospitals city west etc. Am I missing something. Do we not have this under control??

Martina1991

deisedevil wrote:

Or is it that they just couldn't manage the amount of requests. It wasn't that the criteria was too wide at all and they just needed an excuse to reduce the amount of requests maybe? How many people have had it but were told no test would be done because they didn't meet the new criteria.

I think the real truth is that the labs weren't prepared and how could they be. The systems to support them weren't ready and that's also understandable. The reagents ran out and more could not be sourced quick enough, a worldwide problem which was not the fault of anyone here. The hope was that they were going to test far more and when they realised that wasn't possible they said the criteria was too wide. Ideally we would have been testing far more. I can't stand the dishonesty since the testing started. There's been loads of spin around it and it would have been far better to have been more open and hon est. People would have been more understanding than they think I would say.

The criteria was too wide. At the time around 94% of results were negative.
Anyone and everyone could request a test if they told their GP they had symtoms. GPs were doing triage of patients over the phone, without being able to fully assess who should get a test and who shouldn't.

It sent tens of thousands of tests down the throat of our laboratory services. It was passing the buck.

Of course our labs weren't prepared. This is a completely new virus. Very few had the actual analysers, no one had the reagents, because they didn't exist.

Blanco100

Duke of Url wrote: »

I wouldn’t.

Can someone explain what happened in Longford?

Blanco100

Duke of Url wrote: »

I wouldn’t.

Can someone explain what happened in Longford?

Looney1

Looney1 wrote: »

We hear of new grave sites, new mortuary field hospitals city west etc. Am I missing something. Do we not have this under control??

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Potential for this would have been hundreds dead per day based on Lombardy

podgeandrodge

Martina1991 wrote: »

The criteria was too wide. At the time around 94% of results were negative.
Anyone and everyone could request a test if they told their GP they had symtoms. GPs were doing triage of patients over the phone, without being able to fully assess who should get a test and who shouldn't.

It sent tens of thousands of tests down the throat of our laboratory services. It was passing the buck.

Of course our labs weren't prepared. This is a completely new virus. Very few had the actual analysers, no one had the reagents, because they didn't exist.

Let's not forget that they were being paid €30 a pop for this very technical triage. I was rounded on here at the time for saying it seemed a bit OTT for such a quick call, and reminded that this was worth it for people with 7 years training. Not doubting doctors ability, but this 'triage' was a joke.

silverharp

Looney1 wrote: »

We hear of new grave sites, new mortuary field hospitals city west etc. Am I missing something. Do we not have this under control??

that is having it under control, from what I gather the big one in west Dublin isnt being used or used much

Wombatman

Portugal doing very well by any measure.

With large Spanish border, older population and big tourist turnover, I expected them to have numbers like Spain and Italy but this doesn't seem to be the case.

I hope they can continue on their positive trajectory.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/swift-action-kept-portugals-coronavirus-crisis-in-check-says-minister

What Username Guidelines

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Possibly related to blood clotting.

https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1251178889713516545

Weird, mid March my toes flared up badly, hot, itchy, and extremely sensitive. Lasted about a week. Sore to walk, sensitive to hot water in shower, etc. Nothing else symptoms-wise, and I’ve never experienced anything like it. Still a little red but no pain at all now.

wakka12

Looney1 wrote: »

We hear of new grave sites, new mortuary field hospitals city west etc. Am I missing something. Do we not have this under control??

It is under control but a lot of people are still dying and will die, hundreds more people have died than in a typical month in Ireland

redarmy

39 more people diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland have died. There have now been 610 COVID-19 related deaths here.

fritzelly

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1251912634334674944

wakka12

Deaths down considerably in France, UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden,Germany, Netherlands...deaths in Europe overall down about 30% on recent weeks,could really be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel now

Timberrrrrrrr

Looney1 wrote: »

We hear of new grave sites, new mortuary field hospitals city west etc. Am I missing something. Do we not have this under control??

My local ice skating rink has been transformed into a makeshift morgue for weeks now, hasn't been used but they prepped it just in case.

As someone said, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Westernyelp

What Username Guidelines wrote:

Weird, mid March my toes flared up badly, hot, itchy, and extremely sensitive. Lasted about a week. Sore to walk, sensitive to hot water in shower, etc. Nothing else symptoms-wise, and I’ve never experienced anything like it. Still a little red but no pain at all now.

Gout?

expectationlost

wakka12 wrote: »

Deaths down considerably in France, UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden,Germany, Netherlands...could really be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel now

there's another tunnel coming up

Doctors room ghost

redarmy wrote: »

39 more people diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland have died. There have now been 610 COVID-19 related deaths here.

And rip to them all.

Gael23

Hopefully this is the start of a drop in new cases. What was it yesterday?

Westernyelp

Numbers down today

Professor Moriarty

Gael23 wrote: »

Hopefully this is the start of a drop in new cases. What was it yesterday?

41 IIRC

fritzelly

Gael23 wrote: »

Hopefully this is the start of a drop in new cases. What was it yesterday?

630

easypazz

Next few days should be the start of a big fall off in numbers.

Jim_Hodge

Westernyelp wrote: »

Numbers down today

Hopefully this continues but numbers have always been down on Sundays.

Ferris_Bueller

Gael23 wrote: »

Hopefully this is the start of a drop in new cases. What was it yesterday?

493 today compared to 778 yesterday if we're including the tests from Germany (which are now cleared I think?).

Martina1991

wakka12 wrote:

Whats with all this 10k 15k tests day a talk for weeks now? We have not tested anywhere cose to those numbers in a single day , ever. Not thats not okay, Ireland is testing plenty, but why does HSE keep saying they will/can test such large numbers when they dont

The problem with this is that the media use the term "testing" interchangeably when talking about swabs being taken and tests being processed in the lab.

When they say 10-15k tests a day they mean swabs taken in a day.

Irish hospital labs process samples from hospital patients and healthcare workers.
The NVRL process samples from the community and the excess goes to Germany. I imagine and i hope that patients in residential homes will now be prioritised over patients from the community.

podgeandrodge

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective

BanditLuke

Gael23 wrote: »

Hopefully this is the start of a drop in new cases. What was it yesterday?

Happens every Sunday

Speakerboxx

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

easypazz

BanditLuke wrote: »

Happens every Sunday

I have to hand it to you, you always find the worst scenario possible.

what the hell!

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

Same thing is said every evening. Bloody tiresome at this stage.

Larbre34

There are no graves being dug outside of already consecrated ground in Ireland, I can promise you all.

stephenjmcd

Martina1991 wrote: »

The problem with this is that the media use the term "testing" interchangeably when talking about swabs being taken and tests being processed in the lab.

When they say 10-15k tests a day they mean swabs taken in a day.

Irish hospital labs process samples from hospital patients and healthcare workers.
The NVRL process samples from the community and the excess goes to Germany. I imagine and i hope that patients in residential homes will now be prioritised over patients from the community.

They've been quite open in saying the 10k per day is lab capacity to process tests and that labs are operating under capacity, hospital labs for hospital tests, nvrl and Enfer for others along with German lab.

The HSE phrase used regardless of what media say is lab processing capacity is at x number

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1251886978276171776?s=19

Tippex

wakka12 wrote: »

Deaths down considerably in France, UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden,Germany, Netherlands...deaths in Europe overall down about 30% on recent weeks,could really be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel now

We have had the same comments every weekend.
The likelihood esp with UK is the the numbers will go back up tomorrow.
The numbers reported seem to drop a bit over the weekends.

Westernyelp

Westernyelp wrote: »

Gout?

Gout doesn't tend to hit multiple toes. Normally the big toe.

froog

it seems like lockdowns are working across the world - i mean they have to, you don't meet other people, you don't get infected. i'm just worried about opening back up again, which has to be done in the next few months or risk a global depression that could last a decade, whether the virus is gone or not. and it's won't be.

hawkelady

People in critical care has increased though. 294 cases in there now

michellie

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

Stop it. Jesus

ek motor

Tippex wrote: »

We have had the same comments every weekend.
The likelihood esp with UK is the the numbers will go back up tomorrow.
The numbers reported seem to drop a bit over the weekends.

Correct, the numbers dip every weekend.

ShineOn7

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

Sensationalist much?

We're testing more and the higher numbers include a backlog of hundreds (thousands?) of tests of ours returning from Germany. Of course the numbers will be higher

What I'm keeping an eye on is the daily amount of people passing away from it, who aren't part of the numbers from the poor souls in the nursing homes, and the mortality %

bennyl10

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

Game over in what sense?
We’re on proper lockdown for coming up to 5 weeks.
That isn’t long at all on the grand scheme of things and we’re seeing numbers decline.

They aren’t going to just drop to zero..

God knows what people are actually expecting but all signs we’re seeing are positive!

fritzelly

hawkelady wrote: »

People in critical care has increased though. 294 cases in there now

What?

Speakerboxx

michellie wrote: »

Stop it. Jesus

I am asking the question. Answer it or stfu.

Andrew00

We need to open up again within the next month or two. Virus or no virus

A global depression lasting decades would kill more than any virus

Jin luk

How many swabs are actually processed in a day here?