Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

ACitizenErased

Down come to cases, as predicted. I reckon we’ll see some things open before May 5th. Lock down the nursing homes, test test test and we won’t be doing too bad.

RIP to those who died.

kowloon

Wombatman wrote: »

You want to give the people managing this crisis the benefit of the doubt. You want to believe they are smart people who have the countries best interests at heart.

Then you hear they are considering opening schools for one day a week.

Beyond dumb IMHO. You may as well open them every day in that case for flip sake.

If they only had 20% of the kids in school each day they could be spread out.
It would make slightly more sense as the teachers would be the only ones doing a full week and they can be trusted to do their best not to transmit the virus.
Even then, it just makes more sense to have them either open or closed, one day a week is the worst of both worlds.

Speakerboxx

bennyl10 wrote: »

Game over in what sense?
We’re on proper lockdown for coming up to 5 weeks.
That isn’t long at all on the grand scheme of things and we’re seeing numbers decline.

They aren’t going to just drop to zero..

God knows what people are actually expecting but all signs we’re seeing are positive!

We have still high numbers and similar to before we went into lockdown. Nothing positive about that right now.

John.Icy

easypazz wrote: »

I have to hand it to you, you always find the worst scenario possible.

They do drop at the weekend though? Nothing negative about it. Better to wait for proper weekday drops to look for trends.

Speakerboxx

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

Game over? You mean we're all going to die?

bennyl10

Speakerboxx wrote: »

We have still high numbers and similar to before we went into lockdown. Nothing positive about that right now.

Our daily case numbers have dropped(percentage wise)
Put hospital admissions have dropped daily also.


Plenty of positives.

If you’re not willing to actually look The numbers (and how projections have changed over the weeks) than that’s fine, but things are moving in a good direction

John.Icy

Jin luk wrote: »

How many swabs are actually processed in a day here?

Capacity for 7,000 swabs to be taken a day.

Capacity for 10,000 tests to be done a day.

As of HSE updates today.

Gael23

It is the case that there has been a drop on Sunday’s then much higher on Monday

SCOOP 64

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Down come to cases, as predicted. I reckon we’ll see some things open before May 5th. Lock down the nursing homes, test test test and we won’t be doing too bad.

RIP to those who died.

Not that im a expert nor is anyone else on here but to open up before the 5th will be chancing it, see what the numbers are in 2 weeks.

Jim_Hodge

easypazz wrote: »

I have to hand it to you, you always find the worst scenario possible.

But he's correct. Look at the daily figures. It's always a drop in numbers on a Sunday.

ShineOn7

Speakerboxx wrote: »

We have still high numbers and similar to before we went into lockdown. Nothing positive about that right now.

Your lack of common sense re: us having a big backlog of tests coming back is quite something

Speakerboxx

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Game over? You mean we're all going to die?

Well We cant afford to lose 40 people a day to the virus.

Jin luk

John.Icy wrote: »

Capacity for 7,000 swabs to be taken a day.

Capacity for 10,000 tests to be done a day.

As of HSE updates today.

So 450 from 10000 tests?

For a virus their saying has a r0 of about 2 pretty low the whole time here somethings off.

bekker

stephenjmcd wrote: »

My bad if it came across like that, was just saying he had updated the tweet. I know it's a hse issue, said it in another post I dont know how nobody questioned the figure given this morning

That's the nub of the issue, at least one of the journalists present should have questioned it.

Anyone can misspeak, but if it was 1,000 in the briefing notes then that's a more serious issue.

Martina1991

stephenjmcd wrote:

They've been quite open in saying the 10k per day is lab capacity to process tests and that labs are operating under capacity, hospital labs for hospital tests, nvrl and Enfer for others along with German lab.

Hopefully thats true so.
The term testing was and is being used in different contexts at times.

Speakerboxx

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Your lack of common sense re: us having a big backlog of tests coming back is quite something

The backlog is cleared. Did you not hear the news?

Boggles

Andrew00 wrote: »

We need to open up again within the next month or two. Virus or no virus

A global depression lasting decades would kill more than any virus

Put down the coolade.

JP Liz V1

redarmy wrote: »

39 more people diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland have died. There have now been 610 COVID-19 related deaths here.

RIP

John.Icy

Jin luk wrote: »

So 450 from 10000 tests?

For a virus their saying has a r0 of about 2 pretty low the whole time here somethings off.

That's max capacity. I'd say they were running at far less the last few days, though with thousands of nursing home staff and resident swabs to process over of the next 7-10 there's there's a chance we start seeing some big numbers in the coming days.

bennyl10

Speakerboxx wrote: »

The backlog is cleared. Did you not hear the news?

For their duration of this lockdown that you’re saying isn’t working, we have had a backlog though

branie2

RIP. the 39 people who died

Jim_Hodge

Speakerboxx wrote: »

We have still high numbers and similar to before we went into lockdown. Nothing positive about that right now.

No we're not. Positive cases have reduced while testing has ramped up.
How many times must it be explained that these restrictions will not eradicate the virus but will substantially slow it to allow the health service cope? The restrictions are clearly working as planned.

kowloon

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

frillyleaf

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

We only went into restrictions on the 28th March. That’s only three weeks. We should see a drop this week and next week and restrictions being lifted on 5th May.

Jin luk

John.Icy wrote: »

That's max capacity. I'd say they were running at far less the last few days, though with thousands of nursing home staff and resident swabs to process over of the next 7-10 there's there's a chance we start seeing some big numbers in the coming days.

They only started swabbing in nursing homes today can confirm this as ive a relative in 1 the numbers are way off in my eyes think they stuck an extra 0 into that 10000

Speakerboxx

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Well We cant afford to lose 40 people a day to the virus.

But what are referring to when you say 'Game Over'?

Jim_Hodge

Jin luk wrote: »

So 450 from 10000 tests?

For a virus their saying has a r0 of about 2 pretty low the whole time here somethings off.

It's a while since they said R0 = 2.

John.Icy

Jin luk wrote: »

They only started swabbing in nursing homes today can confirm this as ive a relative in 1 the numbers are way off in my eyes think they stuck an extra 0 into that 10000

Have swabbed around 4000 from nursing homes since Friday - thousands more to come. Your relatives home may have only been swabbed today but that doesn't mean no others have prior to today.

Andrew00

John.Icy wrote: »

Have swabbed around 4000 from nursing homes since Friday - thousands more to come.

Its all lies I wouldn't believe a word they say

Jin luk

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It's a while since they said R0 = 2.

In normal circumstances its that or more. i dont know where the most of yous live but life is more or less normal here apart from a bit of social distancing and no pubs open.

OscarMIlde

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

Because some selfish gits are not adhering to the lockdown. Case in point neighbours two doors down had a mate over for a few drinks out the back Frday last, had grandparents (with English accents) over Easter weekend and there are currently several kids playing on the trampoline out their back despite them only having one kid.

Also, a lot of people, myself included, have essential jobs, and are still out and about and therefore running the risk of catching it.

ShineOn7

Jin luk wrote: »

So 450 from 10000 tests?

For a virus their saying has a r0 of about 2 pretty low the whole time here somethings off.

A virus with a R0 of 2 is still an absolute disaster over time exponentially

Last I checked, from a statement from our government, it's at 0.7 here. Which is where it needs to stay. An R0 of 1 and below can be managed, an R0 of 2 or more and it's back to lockdown.

Or, as we have in Ireland, a "lockdown"

frillyleaf

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

We only have had strict restrictions since 28th March which is just over three weeks. We are doing well and we should see a drop in hospital admissions and icu issues this week and next week. We are doing well !

Jin luk

John.Icy wrote: »

Have swabbed around 4000 from nursing homes since Friday - thousands more to come. Your relatives home may have only been swabbed today but that doesn't mean no others have prior to today.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0419/1132451-covid-19-nursing-homes-tests/

BanditLuke

easypazz wrote: »

I have to hand it to you, you always find the worst scenario possible.

It's a fact.

Alf Veedersane

Speakerboxx wrote: »

We have still high numbers and similar to before we went into lockdown. Nothing positive about that right now.

The rate of testing has gone up significantly. More tests, more positives.

That doesn't mean it's not improving.

frillyleaf

Why is RTE so focused on uk ?

DevilsHaircut

'Challenges and solutions for addressing critical shortage of supply chain for personal and protective equipment (PPE) arising from Coronavirus disease (COVID19) pandemic - Case study from the Republic of Ireland'

Really pleased that we're looking into disinfecting/decontaminating PPE with e.g. vaporised hydrogen peroxide (as the US is doing) if needed in an emergency situation.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969720320453?via%3Dihub

petes

Jin luk wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0419/1132451-covid-19-nursing-homes-tests/

That actually says that 4000 have already been completed, if you are going to post a link at least read it.

Jim_Hodge

Jin luk wrote: »

In normal circumstances its that or more. i dont know where the most of yous live but life is more or less normal here apart from a bit of social distancing and no pubs open.

No idea what you mean by that. Vivid can have R0 = 5 to 7. We were at 4.5 and now below 1.
As for life here; for most it is severely changed.

Jin luk

ShineOn7 wrote: »

A virus with a R0 of 2 is still an absolute disaster over time exponentially

Last I checked, from a statement from our government, it's at 0.7 here. Which is where it needs to stay. An R0 of 1 and below can be managed, an R0 of 2 or more and it's back to lockdown.

Or, as we have in Ireland, a "lockdown"

Spot on, but what if the lockdown ends and the virus is still here in small numbers the r0 is going to go straight back upto 2+ this is far from over just dont get how the number is still so low this far in somethings wrong somewhere

John.Icy

Jin luk wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0419/1132451-covid-19-nursing-homes-tests/

From your own article;


''More than 3,000 tests were done in the North Leinster region since Friday and this group was told this morning it had enough swab testing kits and personal protective equipment to carry out more than 2,000 swabs today alone. ''

''The Chief Executive of the HSE, Paul Reid, said that 4,000 tests have already been completed.''

Jin luk

petes wrote: »

That actually says that 4000 have already been completed, if you are going to post a link at least read it.

Well obvs if their saying theirs a high number of positive cases form nursing home this a month or more? Its a large scale testing now every home in the country started today. Does not matter if theirs symptoms or not now

Stheno

Jin luk wrote: »

Spot on, but what if the lockdown ends and the virus is still here in small numbers the r0 is going to go straight back upto 2+ this is far from over just dont get how the number is still so low this far in somethings wrong somewhere

Stop talking ****e

Jin luk

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

No idea what you mean by that. Vivid can have R0 = 5 to 7. We were at 4.5 and now below 1.
As for life here; for most it is severely changed.

4.5? and weve managed to keep it below 20000? Goodlad

Jin luk

Stheno wrote: »

Stop talking ****e

Facts

Maestro85

kowloon wrote: »

What a classic movie. Adding to the watchlist for this week.

Michael Dwyer

easypazz wrote: »

I have to hand it to you, you always find the worst scenario possible.

It's true though. 14 deaths reported last Sunday was way below what came before and after, same with cases.

It's not just an Irish thing either.

Deeper Blue

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Why are numbers still high? We are in lockdown since March and numbers still staying high enough. Im am worried tbh. If our numbers arent dropping significantly this week i think its game over.

I'm fairly confident that they will. Even if they don't it certainly won't be game over, we'll be ok, take it one day at a time my friend

Jim_Hodge

Jin luk wrote: »

Spot on, but what if the lockdown ends and the virus is still here in small numbers the r0 is going to go straight back upto 2+ this is far from over just dont get how the number is still so low this far in somethings wrong somewhere

Okay, one last attempt. Restrictions will be gradually eased, not ended. Social distancing, no mass gathering etc will continue.

Still you say something's wrong but don't explain what you mean. The numbers are perfectly in line with expectations as a result of restrictions coupled with increased testing.