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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #9452
    Tea drinker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I imagine outdoor cafes will be first social premises to open, which will be nice and timely for the summer. The seating will have to be spaced well, and restricted to small social groups. Also disposable cups might be appropriate at this time.

    Eg I’m thinking of likes if Marley Park as anyone example, where there are two cafes with indoor and outdoor seating. They could increase the outdoor seating by placing tables with two chairs far apart in the lark and have hatch service from a few of the visiting takeaways and maybe table service from the cafes from a small menu selection. Ardgillen has a covered outdoor fog & owner cafe, which could open with restricted numbers. Some locations would be suited to this set up. Pubs with beer gardens could take reservations for lunches for couples etc. The county councils in general could facilitate space to be made available for social distance outdoor sheltered cafes to be set up by the various cafe & restaurant businesses in existence. It would help
    Make things feel more normal and summery. Outdoor cafes are located in so many European parks.
    Well Marley also has a lot of space at the back in the courtyard area.
    I just hope the service is a bit better than:
    https://www.facebook.com/thebestchefawards/videos/540636826653629/

    I don't know how pubs can be a viable business until we have substantial herd immunity or a vaccine. Sure people getting a few drinks in and then they are on top of one another, jacks is impossible to maintain distance in. I just hope I don't have to try and hit from 2 metres out!


  • #9453
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Don't be so flippant, the United Kingdom didn't finish off repaying loans taken out during the war until 2006.

    After the war Ireland was more like Albania, low life expectancy, mass immigration, economy was flatlined for years, it wasn't until the 1990's that the Irish economy started to show some progress upwards, and then was up and down for the follow two decades.

    The fallout from the virus has set most countries back at least a decade in terms of their economic activity, and this is only around 100 days in!

    Except the food in present day Albania is amongst the best on the planet, quite splendid! :D


  • #9454
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Tea drinker wrote: »
    jacks is impossible to maintain distance in. I just hope I don't have to try and hit from 2 metres out!
    I dunno TD, going by the state of pub jacks' and urinals throughout my life, it seems we've been socially distancing in Irish pubs for decades. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #9455
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Opening schools for even one day a week is a huge risk. Kids are said to be asymptomatic spreaders and are hardly known for social distancing, washing hands or coughing or sneezing into their elbow.

    One child could potentially infect numerous others who then bring it home.

    What is the alternative? There will be no vaccine for at least a year..so we keep kids locked inside without school for 1+ year?


  • #9456
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 51 – Sunday 19/04/2020
    All data is cumulative

    Day
    |
    Date
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Reporting Increase
    |
    New Deaths
    |
    Total Deaths
    |
    Deaths daily increase
    |
    CFR
    |
    New Hosp
    |
    Total Hosp
    |
    Hosp %
    |
    Hosp daily increase
    |
    New ICU
    |
    Total ICU
    |
    ICU %
    |
    ICU daily increase
    |
    Recovered**
    |
    Recovery %
    |
    Population
    | Active Cases***
    1
    |
    29/02/2020
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 1
    2
    |
    01/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 1
    3
    |
    02/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 1
    4
    |
    03/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    2
    |
    100%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 2
    5
    |
    04/03/2020
    |
    2
    |
    4
    |
    6
    |
    200%
    |
    300%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 6
    6
    |
    05/03/2020
    |
    6
    |
    7
    |
    13
    |
    117%
    |
    75%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 13
    7
    |
    06/03/2020
    |
    13
    |
    5
    |
    18
    |
    38%
    |
    -29%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 18
    8
    |
    07/03/2020
    |
    18
    |
    1
    |
    19
    |
    6%
    |
    -80%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 19
    9
    |
    08/03/2020
    |
    19
    |
    2
    |
    21
    |
    11%
    |
    100%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 21
    10
    |
    09/03/2020
    |
    21
    |
    3
    |
    24
    |
    14%
    |
    50%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 24
    11
    |
    10/03/2020
    |
    24
    |
    10
    |
    34
    |
    42%
    |
    233%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    | 34
    12
    |
    11/03/2020
    |
    34
    |
    9
    |
    43
    |
    26%
    |
    -10%
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    2.3%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    | 42
    13
    |
    12/03/2020
    |
    43
    |
    27
    |
    70
    |
    63%
    |
    200%
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    1.4%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    | 69
    14
    |
    13/03/2020
    |
    70
    |
    20
    |
    90
    |
    29%
    |
    -26%
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    1.1%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.002%
    | 89
    15
    |
    14/03/2020
    |
    90
    |
    39
    |
    129
    |
    43%
    |
    95%
    |
    1
    |
    2
    |
    100%
    |
    1.6%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.003%
    | 127
    16
    |
    15/03/2020
    |
    129
    |
    40
    |
    169
    |
    31%
    |
    3%
    |
    0
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    1.2%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.003%
    | 167
    17
    |
    16/03/2020
    |
    169
    |
    54
    |
    223
    |
    32%
    |
    35%
    |
    0
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    0.9%
    |
    84
    |
    84
    |
    38%
    |
    N/A
    |
    84
    |
    6
    |
    3%
    |
    N/A
    |
    5
    |
    2%
    |
    0.005%
    | 216
    18
    |
    17/03/2020
    |
    223
    |
    69
    |
    292
    |
    31%
    |
    28%
    |
    0
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    0.7%
    |
    24
    |
    108
    |
    37%
    |
    29%
    |
    1
    |
    7
    |
    2%
    |
    17%
    |
    5
    |
    2%
    |
    0.006%
    | 285
    19
    |
    18/03/2020
    |
    292
    |
    74
    |
    366
    |
    25%
    |
    7%
    |
    0
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    0.5%
    |
    32
    |
    140
    |
    38%
    |
    30%
    |
    5
    |
    12
    |
    3%
    |
    71%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.007%
    | 359
    20
    |
    19/03/2020
    |
    366
    |
    191
    |
    557
    |
    52%
    |
    158%
    |
    1
    |
    3
    |
    50%
    |
    0.5%
    |
    33
    |
    173
    |
    31%
    |
    24%
    |
    1
    |
    13
    |
    2%
    |
    8%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.011%
    | 549
    21
    |
    20/03/2020
    |
    557
    |
    126
    |
    683
    |
    23%
    |
    -34%
    |
    0
    |
    3
    |
    0%
    |
    0.4%
    |
    38
    |
    211
    |
    31%
    |
    22%
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    4
    |
    17
    |
    2%
    |
    31%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.014%
    | 675
    22
    |
    21/03/2020
    |
    683
    |
    102
    |
    785
    |
    15%
    |
    -19%
    |
    0
    |
    3
    |
    33%
    |
    0.4%
    |
    28
    |
    239
    |
    30%
    |
    13%
    |
    8
    |
    25
    |
    3%
    |
    47%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.016%
    | 777
    23
    |
    22/03/2020
    |
    785
    |
    121
    |
    906
    |
    15%
    |
    19%
    |
    1
    |
    4
    |
    33%
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    |
    38
    |
    277
    |
    31%
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    11
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    36
    |
    4%
    |
    44%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.018%
    | 897
    24
    |
    23/03/2020
    |
    906
    |
    219
    |
    1125
    |
    24%
    |
    81%
    |
    2
    |
    6
    |
    50%
    |
    0.5%
    |
    28
    |
    305
    |
    27%
    |
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    3
    |
    39
    |
    3%
    |
    8%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
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    | 1114
    25
    |
    24/03/2020
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    1125
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    204
    |
    1329
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    18%
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    -7%
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    7
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    340
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    47
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    4%
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    21%
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    5
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    0%
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    0.027%
    | 1317
    26
    |
    25/03/2020
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    1329
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    235
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    1564
    |
    18%
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    15%
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    2
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    9
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    419
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    12
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    59
    |
    4%
    |
    26%
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    5
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    0.032%
    | 1550
    27
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    26/03/2020
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    1564
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    255
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    1819
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    16%
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    | 1795
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    27/03/2020
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    1819
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    302
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    2121
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    | 2094
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    28/03/2020
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    2415
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    36
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    645
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    27%
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    | 2374
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    29/03/2020
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    200
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    2615
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    | 2564
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    30/03/2020
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    2615
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    295
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    2910
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    834
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    | 2851
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    31/03/2020
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    325
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    3235
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    71
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    31%
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    98
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    932
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    29%
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    8
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    134
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    4%
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    6%
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    25
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    | 3139
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    01/04/2020
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    3235
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    212
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    3447
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    85
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    1039
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    148
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    10%
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    25
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    0.070%
    | 3337
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    02/04/2020
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    3447
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    402
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    3849
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    12%
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    90%
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    98
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    1118
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    25
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    0.078%
    | 3726
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    03/04/2020
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    3849
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    424
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    11%
    |
    5%
    |
    22
    |
    120
    |
    22%
    |
    2.8%
    |
    85
    |
    1203
    |
    28%
    |
    8%
    |
    7
    |
    165
    |
    4%
    |
    4%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.087%
    | 4128
    36
    |
    04/04/2020
    |
    4273
    |
    331
    |
    4604
    |
    8%
    |
    -22%
    |
    17
    |
    137
    |
    14%
    |
    3.0%
    |
    62
    |
    1265
    |
    27%
    |
    5%
    |
    4
    |
    169
    |
    4%
    |
    2%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.094%
    | 4442
    37
    |
    05/04/2020
    |
    4604
    |
    390
    |
    4994
    |
    8%
    |
    18%
    |
    21
    |
    158
    |
    15%
    |
    3.2%
    |
    80
    |
    1345
    |
    27%
    |
    6%
    |
    25
    |
    194
    |
    4%
    |
    15%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.101%
    | 4811
    38
    |
    06/04/2020
    |
    4994
    |
    370
    |
    5364
    |
    7%
    |
    -5%
    |
    16
    |
    174
    |
    10%
    |
    3.2%
    |
    127
    |
    1472
    |
    27%
    |
    9%
    |
    30
    |
    224
    |
    4%
    |
    15%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.109%
    | 5165
    39
    |
    07/04/2020
    |
    5364
    |
    345
    |
    5709
    |
    6%
    |
    -7%
    |
    36
    |
    210
    |
    21%
    |
    3.7%
    |
    49
    |
    1521
    |
    27%
    |
    3%
    |
    6
    |
    230
    |
    4%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.116%
    | 5474
    40
    |
    08/04/2020
    |
    5709
    |
    365
    |
    6074
    |
    6%
    |
    6%
    |
    25
    |
    235
    |
    12%
    |
    3.9%
    |
    110
    |
    1631
    |
    27%
    |
    7%
    |
    14
    |
    244
    |
    4%
    |
    6%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.123%
    | 5814
    41
    |
    09/04/2020
    |
    6074
    |
    500
    |
    6574
    |
    8%
    |
    37%
    |
    28
    |
    263
    |
    12%
    |
    4.0%
    |
    87
    |
    1718
    |
    26%
    |
    5%
    |
    9
    |
    253
    |
    4%
    |
    4%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.134%
    | 6286
    42 * ~
    |
    10/04/2020
    |
    6574
    |
    1515
    |
    8089
    |
    23%
    |
    203%
    |
    25
    |
    287
    |
    9%
    |
    4.0%
    |
    59
    |
    1777
    |
    22%
    |
    3%
    |
    8
    |
    261
    |
    3%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.164%
    | 7777
    43*
    |
    11/04/2020
    |
    8089
    |
    839
    |
    8928
    |
    10%
    |
    -45%
    |
    33
    |
    320
    |
    11%
    |
    3.6%
    |
    72
    |
    1849
    |
    21%
    |
    4%
    |
    7
    |
    268
    |
    3%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.181%
    | 8583
    44*
    |
    12/04/2020
    |
    8928
    |
    727
    |
    9655
    |
    8%
    |
    -13%
    |
    14
    |
    334
    |
    4%
    |
    3.5%
    |
    54
    |
    1903
    |
    20%
    |
    3%
    |
    7
    |
    275
    |
    3%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.196%
    | 9296
    45*
    |
    13/04/2020
    |
    9655
    |
    992
    |
    10647
    |
    10%
    |
    36%
    |
    31
    |
    365
    |
    9%
    |
    3.4%
    |
    65
    |
    1968
    |
    18%
    |
    3%
    |
    5
    |
    280
    |
    3%
    |
    2%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.216%
    | 10257
    46*
    |
    14/04/2020
    |
    10647
    |
    832
    |
    11479
    |
    8%
    |
    -16%
    |
    41
    |
    406
    |
    11%
    |
    3.5%
    |
    58
    |
    2026
    |
    18%
    |
    3%
    |
    4
    |
    284
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.233%
    | 11048
    47*
    |
    15/04/2020
    |
    11479
    |
    1068
    |
    12547
    |
    9%
    |
    28%
    |
    38
    |
    444
    |
    9%
    |
    3.5%
    |
    56
    |
    2082
    |
    17%
    |
    3%
    |
    10
    |
    294
    |
    2%
    |
    4%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.255%
    | 12026
    48 * ~
    |
    16/04/2020
    |
    12547
    |
    724
    |
    13271
    |
    6%
    |
    -32%
    |
    43
    |
    486
    |
    9%
    |
    3.7%
    |
    86
    |
    2168
    |
    16%
    |
    4%
    |
    2
    |
    296
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.270%
    | 12708
    49*
    |
    17/04/2020
    |
    13271
    |
    709
    |
    13980
    |
    5%
    |
    -2%
    |
    44
    |
    530
    |
    9%
    |
    3.8%
    |
    55
    |
    2223
    |
    16%
    |
    3%
    |
    7
    |
    303
    |
    2%
    |
    2%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.284%
    | 13373
    50*
    |
    18/04/2020
    |
    13980
    |
    778
    |
    14758
    |
    6%
    |
    10%
    |
    41
    |
    571
    |
    8%
    |
    3.9%
    |
    0
    |
    2223
    |
    15%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    303
    |
    2%
    |
    0%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.300%
    | 14110
    51*
    |
    19/04/2020
    |
    14758
    |
    493
    |
    15251
    |
    3%
    |
    -37%
    |
    39
    |
    610
    |
    7%
    |
    4.0%
    |
    0
    |
    2223
    |
    15%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    303
    |
    2%
    |
    0%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.310%
    | 14564


    CFR = Case fatality rate
    NR = Not reported

    Source: Department of Health, the Health Protection Surveillance Centre and the HSE.

    NOTES: -
    * Daily increase numbers on these dates represent both new cases and older cases reported from Germany which results in skewed daily % increases and average case reporting % changes, numbers are broken down as:-
    Day|Date|New Irish Cases|German Cases
    42|10/04/20|480|1035
    43|11/04/20|553|286
    44|12/04/20|430|297
    45|13/04/20| 527|465
    46|14/04/20|548|284
    47|15/04/20|657|411
    48|16/04/20|629|95
    49|17/04/20|597|112
    50|18/04/20|630|148
    51|19/04/20|445|48


    ~ Denotification of deaths:-
    10/04/20 – 1
    16/04/20 – 1

    ** "Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data supplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting.

    Recovered statistics are only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed. Updated on 15/04/20 - The WHO reporting criteria has been changed recently to eliminate the 2 test requirement before reporting as recovered, now an outcome report is sent within one month of initial notification or when an outcome is known, the available health outcomes are either “recovered/healthy”, “not recovered", “death", “unknown" or “other", weather this helps create more accurate recovery numbers or skews them further is yet to be seen.

    *** Due to the above issue with reporting of recovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.


    Case increase averages:-

    Day
    | Date | ▲Day 1 | ▲10 Days | ▲7 days | ▲3 Days | ■ Day 1 | ■ 10 Days | ■ 7 Days | ■ 3 days
    1
    | 29/02/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    2
    | 01/03/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    3
    | 02/03/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | 0% | 0% | N/A | N/A | 0%
    4
    | 03/03/2020 | 25.0% | N/A | N/A | 33% | 0% | N/A | N/A | 0%
    5
    | 04/03/2020 | 60.0% | N/A | N/A | 100% | 60% | N/A | N/A | 100%
    6
    | 05/03/2020 | 69.4% | N/A | N/A | 139% | 63% | N/A | N/A | 125%
    7
    | 06/03/2020 | 65.0% | N/A | 65% | 118% | 49% | N/A | 49% | 115%
    8
    | 07/03/2020 | 57.6% | N/A | 66% | 54% | 33% | N/A | 38% | -11%
    9
    | 08/03/2020 | 52.4% | N/A | 67% | 18% | 41% | N/A | 52% | -3%
    10
    | 09/03/2020 | 49% | 49% | 69% | 10% | 42% | 42% | 59% | 23%
    11
    | 10/03/2020 | 48% | 53% | 61% | 22% | 59% | 65% | 93% | 128%
    12
    | 11/03/2020 | 46% | 55% | 36% | 27% | 53% | 64% | 49% | 91%
    13
    | 12/03/2020 | 47% | 62% | 29% | 44% | 65% | 84% | 66% | 141%
    14
    | 13/03/2020 | 46% | 54% | 27% | 39% | 58% | 81% | 67% | 55%
    15
    | 14/03/2020 | 46% | 39% | 33% | 45% | 61% | 61% | 92% | 90%
    16
    | 15/03/2020 | 45% | 30% | 35% | 34% | 57% | 54% | 78% | 24%
    17
    | 16/03/2020 | 44% | 30% | 38% | 35% | 56% | 60% | 76% | 44%
    18
    | 17/03/2020 | 43% | 32% | 36% | 31% | 54% | 71% | 46% | 22%
    19
    | 18/03/2020 | 43% | 34% | 36% | 29% | 52% | 61% | 49% | 23%
    20
    | 19/03/2020 | 43% | 37% | 35% | 36% | 57% | 72% | 43% | 64%
    21
    | 20/03/2020 | 42% | 36% | 34% | 33% | 53% | 46% | 42% | 44%
    22
    | 21/03/2020 | 41% | 34% | 30% | 30% | 49% | 45% | 25% | 35%
    23
    | 22/03/2020 | 40% | 30% | 28% | 18% | 48% | 27% | 28% | -11%
    24
    | 23/03/2020 | 39% | 29% | 27% | 18% | 49% | 37% | 34% | 27%
    25
    | 24/03/2020 | 38% | 27% | 25% | 19% | 47% | 27% | 29% | 31%
    26
    | 25/03/2020 | 37% | 25% | 24% | 20% | 46% | 28% | 30% | 30%
    27
    | 26/03/2020 | 37% | 24% | 18% | 17% | 45% | 26% | 9% | 6%
    28
    | 27/03/2020 | 36% | 22% | 18% | 17% | 44% | 25% | 17% | 14%
    29
    | 28/03/2020 | 35% | 21% | 17% | 16% | 42% | 24% | 19% | 8%
    30
    | 29/03/2020 | 34% | 17% | 16% | 13% | 40% | 5% | 12% | -5%
    31
    | 30/03/2020 | 34% | 16% | 15% | 11% | 40% | 13% | 7% | 4%
    32
    | 31/03/2020 | 33% | 15% | 14% | 10% | 39% | 16% | 9% | 9%
    33
    | 01/04/2020 | 32% | 14% | 12% | 10% | 37% | 10% | 2% | 8%
    34
    | 02/04/2020 | 31% | 13% | 11% | 10% | 38% | 11% | 14% | 22%
    35
    | 03/04/2020 | 31% | 12% | 11% | 10% | 37% | 13% | 12% | 20%
    36
    | 04/04/2020 | 30% | 11% | 10% | 10% | 36% | 9% | 9% | 24%
    37
    | 05/04/2020 | 30% | 11% | 10% | 9% | 35% | 10% | 16% | 0%
    38
    | 06/04/2020 | 29% | 10% | 9% | 8% | 34% | 7% | 9% | -3%
    39
    | 07/04/2020 | 28% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 33% | 7% | 6% | 2%
    40
    | 08/04/2020 | 28% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 32% | 11% | 12% | -2%
    41
    | 09/04/2020 | 27% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 32% | 10% | 5% | 12%
    42
    | 10/04/2020 | 27% | 10% | 10% | 13% | 37% | 29% | 33% | 82%
    43
    | 11/04/2020 | 27% | 10% | 10% | 14% | 35% | 28% | 30% | 65%
    44
    | 12/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 10% | 14% | 34% | 18% | 25% | 48%
    45
    | 13/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 10% | 10% | 34% | 21% | 31% | -7%
    46
    | 14/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 11% | 9% | 33% | 21% | 30% | 2%
    47
    | 15/04/2020 | 25% | 10% | 11% | 9% | 32% | 22% | 33% | 16%
    48
    | 16/04/2020 | 25% | 10% | 11% | 8% | 31% | 20% | 23% | -7%
    49
    | 17/04/2020 | 25% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 30% | 20% | -6% | -2%
    50
    | 18/04/2020 | 24% | 9% | 7% | 6% | 30% | 21% | 2% | -8%
    51
    | 19/04/2020 | 24% | 9% | 7% | 5% | 29% | 13% | -2% | -10%

    ▲ = Daily case increase averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1
    ■ = Daily case reporting change averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1

    Northern Ireland Statistics:-

    Day
    |
    Date
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Reporting Increase
    |
    New Deaths
    |
    Total Deaths
    |
    % Increase
    |
    CFR
    | Population %
    1
    |
    29/02/2020
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    2
    |
    01/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    3
    |
    02/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    4
    |
    03/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    5
    |
    04/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    2
    |
    3
    |
    200%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    6
    |
    05/03/2020
    |
    3
    |
    0
    |
    3
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    7
    |
    06/03/2020
    |
    3
    |
    1
    |
    4
    |
    33%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    8
    |
    07/03/2020
    |
    4
    |
    3
    |
    7
    |
    75%
    |
    200%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    9
    |
    08/03/2020
    |
    7
    |
    5
    |
    12
    |
    71%
    |
    67%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    10
    |
    09/03/2020
    |
    12
    |
    0
    |
    12
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    11
    |
    10/03/2020
    |
    12
    |
    4
    |
    16
    |
    33%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    12
    |
    11/03/2020
    |
    16
    |
    2
    |
    18
    |
    13%
    |
    -50%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    13
    |
    12/03/2020
    |
    18
    |
    2
    |
    20
    |
    11%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    14
    |
    13/03/2020
    |
    20
    |
    9
    |
    29
    |
    45%
    |
    350%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.002%
    15
    |
    14/03/2020
    |
    29
    |
    5
    |
    34
    |
    17%
    |
    -44%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.002%
    16
    |
    15/03/2020
    |
    34
    |
    11
    |
    45
    |
    32%
    |
    120%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.002%
    17
    |
    16/03/2020
    |
    45
    |
    7
    |
    52
    |
    16%
    |
    -36%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.003%
    18
    |
    17/03/2020
    |
    52
    |
    10
    |
    62
    |
    19%
    |
    43%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.003%
    19
    |
    18/03/2020
    |
    62
    |
    6
    |
    68
    |
    10%
    |
    -40%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.004%
    20
    |
    19/03/2020
    |
    68
    |
    9
    |
    77
    |
    13%
    |
    50%
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    1.3%
    | 0.004%
    21
    |
    20/03/2020
    |
    77
    |
    9
    |
    86
    |
    12%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    100%
    |
    1.2%
    | 0.005%
    22
    |
    21/03/2020
    |
    86
    |
    22
    |
    108
    |
    26%
    |
    144%
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    100%
    |
    0.9%
    | 0.006%
    23
    |
    22/03/2020
    |
    108
    |
    20
    |
    128
    |
    19%
    |
    -9%
    |
    1
    |
    2
    |
    100%
    |
    1.6%
    | 0.007%
    24
    |
    23/03/2020
    |
    128
    |
    20
    |
    148
    |
    16%
    |
    0%
    |
    1
    |
    3
    |
    50%
    |
    2.0%
    | 0.008%
    25
    |
    24/03/2020
    |
    148
    |
    24
    |
    172
    |
    16%
    |
    20%
    |
    2
    |
    5
    |
    67%
    |
    2.9%
    | 0.009%
    26
    |
    25/03/2020
    |
    172
    |
    37
    |
    209
    |
    22%
    |
    54%
    |
    2
    |
    7
    |
    40%
    |
    3.3%
    | 0.011%
    27
    |
    26/03/2020
    |
    209
    |
    32
    |
    241
    |
    15%
    |
    -14%
    |
    3
    |
    10
    |
    43%
    |
    4.1%
    | 0.013%
    28
    |
    27/03/2020
    |
    241
    |
    34
    |
    275
    |
    14%
    |
    6%
    |
    3
    |
    13
    |
    30%
    |
    4.7%
    | 0.014%
    29
    |
    28/03/2020
    |
    275
    |
    49
    |
    324
    |
    18%
    |
    44%
    |
    2
    |
    15
    |
    15%
    |
    4.6%
    | 0.017%
    30
    |
    29/03/2020
    |
    324
    |
    86
    |
    410
    |
    27%
    |
    76%
    |
    6
    |
    21
    |
    40%
    |
    5.1%
    | 0.021%
    31
    |
    30/03/2020
    |
    410
    |
    123
    |
    533
    |
    30%
    |
    43%
    |
    1
    |
    22
    |
    5%
    |
    4.1%
    | 0.028%
    32
    |
    31/03/2020
    |
    533
    |
    53
    |
    586
    |
    10%
    |
    -57%
    |
    6
    |
    28
    |
    27%
    |
    4.8%
    | 0.031%
    33
    |
    01/04/2020
    |
    586
    |
    103
    |
    689
    |
    18%
    |
    94%
    |
    2
    |
    30
    |
    7%
    |
    4.4%
    | 0.036%
    34
    |
    02/04/2020
    |
    689
    |
    85
    |
    774
    |
    12%
    |
    -17%
    |
    6
    |
    36
    |
    20%
    |
    4.7%
    | 0.041%
    35
    |
    03/04/2020
    |
    774
    |
    130
    |
    904
    |
    17%
    |
    53%
    |
    12
    |
    48
    |
    33%
    |
    5.3%
    | 0.047%
    36
    |
    04/04/2020
    |
    904
    |
    94
    |
    998
    |
    10%
    |
    -28%
    |
    8
    |
    56
    |
    17%
    |
    5.6%
    | 0.052%
    37
    |
    05/04/2020
    |
    998
    |
    91
    |
    1089
    |
    9%
    |
    -3%
    |
    7
    |
    63
    |
    13%
    |
    5.8%
    | 0.057%
    38
    |
    06/04/2020
    |
    1089
    |
    69
    |
    1158
    |
    6%
    |
    -24%
    |
    7
    |
    70
    |
    11%
    |
    6.0%
    | 0.061%
    39
    |
    07/04/2020
    |
    1158
    |
    97
    |
    1255
    |
    8%
    |
    41%
    |
    3
    |
    73
    |
    4%
    |
    5.8%
    | 0.066%
    40
    |
    08/04/2020
    |
    1255
    |
    84
    |
    1339
    |
    7%
    |
    -13%
    |
    5
    |
    78
    |
    7%
    |
    5.8%
    | 0.070%
    41
    |
    09/04/2020
    |
    1339
    |
    138
    |
    1477
    |
    10%
    |
    64%
    |
    4
    |
    82
    |
    5%
    |
    5.6%
    | 0.077%
    42
    |
    10/04/2020
    |
    1477
    |
    112
    |
    1589
    |
    8%
    |
    -19%
    |
    10
    |
    92
    |
    12%
    |
    5.8%
    | 0.083%
    43
    |
    11/04/2020
    |
    1589
    |
    128
    |
    1717
    |
    8%
    |
    14%
    |
    15
    |
    107
    |
    16%
    |
    6.2%
    | 0.090%
    44
    |
    12/04/2020
    |
    1717
    |
    89
    |
    1806
    |
    5%
    |
    -30%
    |
    11
    |
    118
    |
    10%
    |
    6.5%
    | 0.095%
    45
    |
    13/04/2020
    |
    1806
    |
    76
    |
    1882
    |
    4%
    |
    -15%
    |
    6
    |
    124
    |
    5%
    |
    6.6%
    | 0.098%
    46
    |
    14/04/2020
    |
    1882
    |
    85
    |
    1967
    |
    5%
    |
    12%
    |
    10
    |
    134
    |
    8%
    |
    6.8%
    | 0.103%
    47
    |
    15/04/2020
    |
    1967
    |
    121
    |
    2088
    |
    6%
    |
    42%
    |
    6
    |
    140
    |
    4%
    |
    6.7%
    | 0.109%
    48
    |
    16/04/2020
    |
    2088
    |
    113
    |
    2201
    |
    5%
    |
    -7%
    |
    18
    |
    158
    |
    13%
    |
    7.2%
    | 0.115%
    49
    |
    17/04/2020
    |
    2201
    |
    137
    |
    2338
    |
    6%
    |
    21%
    |
    18
    |
    176
    |
    11%
    |
    7.5%
    | 0.122%
    50
    |
    18/04/2020
    |
    2338
    |
    148
    |
    2486
    |
    6%
    |
    8%
    |
    17
    |
    193
    |
    10%
    |
    7.8%
    | 0.130%
    51
    |
    19/04/2020
    |
    2486
    |
    159
    |
    2645
    |
    6%
    |
    7%
    |
    1
    |
    194
    |
    1%
    |
    7.3%
    | 0.138%

    CFR = Case fatality rate

    Source: The Public Health Agency for Northern Ireland.


    Island of Ireland Statistics:-

    Day
    |
    Date
    |
    Total cases on the Island of Ireland
    | Island of Ireland Population %
    1
    |
    29/02/2020
    |
    2
    | 0.000%
    2
    |
    01/03/2020
    |
    2
    | 0.000%
    3
    |
    02/03/2020
    |
    2
    | 0.000%
    4
    |
    03/03/2020
    |
    3
    | 0.000%
    5
    |
    04/03/2020
    |
    9
    | 0.000%
    6
    |
    05/03/2020
    |
    16
    | 0.000%
    7
    |
    06/03/2020
    |
    22
    | 0.000%
    8
    |
    07/03/2020
    |
    26
    | 0.000%
    9
    |
    08/03/2020
    |
    33
    | 0.000%
    10
    |
    09/03/2020
    |
    36
    | 0.001%
    11
    |
    10/03/2020
    |
    50
    | 0.001%
    12
    |
    11/03/2020
    |
    61
    | 0.001%
    13
    |
    12/03/2020
    |
    90
    | 0.001%
    14
    |
    13/03/2020
    |
    119
    | 0.002%
    15
    |
    14/03/2020
    |
    163
    | 0.002%
    16
    |
    15/03/2020
    |
    214
    | 0.003%
    17
    |
    16/03/2020
    |
    275
    | 0.004%
    18
    |
    17/03/2020
    |
    354
    | 0.005%
    19
    |
    18/03/2020
    |
    434
    | 0.006%
    20
    |
    19/03/2020
    |
    634
    | 0.009%
    21
    |
    20/03/2020
    |
    769
    | 0.011%
    22
    |
    21/03/2020
    |
    893
    | 0.013%
    23
    |
    22/03/2020
    |
    1034
    | 0.015%
    24
    |
    23/03/2020
    |
    1273
    | 0.019%
    25
    |
    24/03/2020
    |
    1501
    | 0.022%
    26
    |
    25/03/2020
    |
    1773
    | 0.026%
    27
    |
    26/03/2020
    |
    2060
    | 0.030%
    28
    |
    27/03/2020
    |
    2396
    | 0.035%
    29
    |
    28/03/2020
    |
    2739
    | 0.040%
    30
    |
    29/03/2020
    |
    3025
    | 0.044%
    31
    |
    30/03/2020
    |
    3443
    | 0.050%
    32
    |
    31/03/2020
    |
    3821
    | 0.056%
    33
    |
    01/04/2020
    |
    4136
    | 0.061%
    34
    |
    02/04/2020
    |
    4623
    | 0.068%
    35
    |
    03/04/2020
    |
    5177
    | 0.076%
    36
    |
    04/04/2020
    |
    5602
    | 0.082%
    37
    |
    05/04/2020
    |
    6083
    | 0.089%
    38
    |
    06/04/2020
    |
    6522
    | 0.095%
    39
    |
    07/04/2020
    |
    6964
    | 0.102%
    40
    |
    08/04/2020
    |
    7413
    | 0.108%
    41
    |
    09/04/2020
    |
    8051
    | 0.118%
    42
    |
    10/04/2020
    |
    9678
    | 0.142%
    43
    |
    11/04/2020
    |
    10645
    | 0.156%
    44
    |
    12/04/2020
    |
    11461
    | 0.168%
    45
    |
    13/04/2020
    |
    12529
    | 0.183%
    46
    |
    14/04/2020
    |
    13446
    | 0.197%
    47
    |
    15/04/2020
    |
    14635
    | 0.214%
    48
    |
    16/04/2020
    |
    15472
    | 0.226%
    49
    |
    17/04/2020
    |
    16318
    | 0.239%
    50
    |
    18/04/2020
    |
    17244
    | 0.252%
    51
    |
    19/04/2020
    |
    17896
    | 0.262%


    World Statistics:-

    New Cases since 00.01
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    New Deaths
    |
    Total Deaths
    |
    Recoveries
    |
    Active Caes
    |
    Fatality rate
    |
    Recovery rate
    | World Population %
    69,038
    |
    2,399,849
    |
    4,892
    |
    164,939
    |
    615,674
    |
    1,619,236
    |
    6.9%
    |
    25.65%
    | 0.031%

    Source: Worldmeters, based on reported numbers @ 22.05.

    Animals:-

    Animal Type
    |
    Confirmed
    | Suspected
    Cat
    |
    0
    | 1
    Dog
    |
    2
    | 0
    Lion
    |
    0
    | 3
    Tiger
    |
    1
    | 3
    TOTALS
    |
    3
    | 7
    Source: [url=https://www.oie.int/en/scientific-expertise/specific-information-and-recommendations/question


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  • #9457
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    They've upped the chlorine in water to make sure. Have we? We've never had any issues with water posing a risk [sarcasm]


    https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Extra-chlorine-added-to-tap-water-in-France-due-to-stagnant-water-and-Covid-19-confinement

    https://www.thejournal.ie/boil-water-notice/news/

    Spare a thought for these poor souls.

    Since the 5th of February, 2018.


  • #9458
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I dunno TD, going by the state of pub jacks' and urinals throughout my life, it seems we've been socially distancing in Irish pubs for decades. :D

    A single spaced outdoor queue to spacially divided toitets might be the answer. When I was in Namibia shortly before the lockdown there and here they were spraying the toilets before use, you had to get a staff member to open them for you, and were sprayed before & after use.


  • #9459
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,265 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Hard to believe we are catching up with Sweden in deaths per million.

    Yesterday Sweden 150 Ireland 116
    Today Sweden 152 Ireland 124

    They are counting care home deaths BTW.

    Come back in three weeks and do that comparison again. Have you seen their trend for the past 10 days?


  • #9460
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Any thoughts on what happens on May 5th?


  • #9461
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Any thoughts on what happens on May 5th?

    I will go for my usual walk that’s about it


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  • #9462
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    My neighbour who is a garda, whose wife is an ICU nurse, spent last night in a friends house, with all their kids, the other dad works in a hospice.

    Simon Harris keeps banging on about how the next two weeks are important, I’ve been on these threads for months, I know what’s coming, but his messaging is giving the impression that in two weeks we’ve won and that’s it. Like staying at home during a red warning until the storm just passes over and hey presto, let’s get back to it.

    I’m not confident tbh.

    I agree. Have noticed this weekend that people don't seem to give a **** about social distancing when out for a walk etc. Had a number of people nearly walk into me today, walking two and three abreast. Have been seeing neighbours having people over more and more in the past week as well.


  • #9463
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Any thoughts on what happens on May 5th?

    Some restrictions might be lifted


  • #9464
    Shelle1234.
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭Shelle1234.


    Hi, one thing that im curious about (i know its too soon for anyone to KNOW but would love thoughts) if you can get this virus more than once are you likely to have the same degree of illness or could you catch a more or less serious strain than you had previously. Not sure what difference it makes but im just curious. Also have alot of people now written off a vaccine being a likely option for this because of reoccurance or do we just still not know. Many thanks x


  • #9465
    jluv
    Registered Users Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭jluv


    live quite rural. To he fair all along people seemed to be observing the guidelines. But today passed 2 lots of 2 people who do not live together walking side by side as you would on a normal day. 2 household where kids and grandchildren were at grandparents house,dont live there and grandparents were holding hands with the children. Because I hadn't noticed this all along I just found it strange today.


  • #9466
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Shelle1234. wrote: »
    Hi, one thing that im curious about (i know its too soon for anyone to KNOW but would love thoughts) if you can get this virus more than once are you likely to have the same degree of illness or could you catch a more or less serious strain than you had previously. Not sure what difference it makes but im just curious. Also have alot of people now written off a vaccine being a likely option for this because of reoccurance or do we just still not know. Many thanks x

    The scientists are far from knowing this. Having likely suffered this virus I am really anxious to know this myself. The experts are arguing from “there is no evidence that one develops immunity from having had the virus” to “the virus apparently gives long term immunity”. There is in all probability at least Some months to a year’s immunity from having had it, given the behaviour of most other viruses and the experience from Sars1 virus there seems to be indefinite immunity. However the common coronaviruses that cause some of our common colds don’t seem to convey long term immunity. It’s pretty likely that if you!vs had it you are going to be ok for up to a year, but never guaranteed. There is no evidence that you will get it worse the second time, that myth has been pretty much busted as the earlier evaluations were incorrect.


  • #9467
    Shelle1234.
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭Shelle1234.


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The scientists are far from knowing this. Having likely suffered this virus I am really anxious to know this myself. The experts are arguing from “there is no evidence that one develops immunity from having had the virus” to “the virus apparently gives long term immunity”. There is in all probability at least Some months to a year’s immunity from having had it, given the behaviour of most other viruses and the experience from Sars1 virus there seems to be indefinite immunity. However the common coronaviruses that cause some of our common colds don’t seem to convey long term immunity. It’s pretty likely that if you!vs had it you are going to be ok for up to a year, but never guaranteed. There is no evidence that you will get it worse the second time, that myth has been pretty much busted as the earlier evaluations were incorrect.

    Thanks for that. And glad to know others are curious about this too.


  • #9468
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Even if a relatively small percentage of the community develop resistance to CV19 for only a year, it will mean that cases of the virus will be extremely low as the virus needs people to survive, therefore it could be mostly eliminated within a year even without a vaccine, once sufficient numbers have had it asymptomatically.....
    ....Something which won't happen under strict lockdowns.


  • #9469
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Shelle1234. wrote: »
    Hi, one thing that im curious about (i know its too soon for anyone to KNOW but would love thoughts) if you can get this virus more than once are you likely to have the same degree of illness or could you catch a more or less serious strain than you had previously. Not sure what difference it makes but im just curious. Also have alot of people now written off a vaccine being a likely option for this because of reoccurance or do we just still not know. Many thanks x

    Re-infection looks highly unlikely. What is happening is probably due to patients not being fully recovered and a relapse occurring.

    https://gulfnews.com/world/is-covid-19-reinfection-possible-what-a-study-on-monkeys-shows-1.1587206610162


  • #9470
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Even if a relatively small percentage of the community develop resistance to CV19 for only a year, it will mean that cases of the virus will be extremely low as the virus needs people to survive, therefore it could be mostly eliminated within a year even without a vaccine, once sufficient numbers have had it asymptomatically.....
    ....Something which won't happen under strict lockdowns.

    Define 'relatively small'.


  • #9471
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,938 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Macron says he is considering introducing legislation in France that would make it illegal to use public transport without a mask.


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  • #9472
    Iamabeliever
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    *Viable* virus has never been found in faeces to my knowledge.

    Ebola?


  • #9473
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Macron says he is considering introducing legislation in France that would make it illegal to use public transport without a mask.

    This should have been mandatory in every country in the world weeks ago.


  • #9474
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    *Viable* virus has never been found in faeces to my knowledge.

    Norovirus? aka winter vomitting. So frequent it has it's own route.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal–oral_route

    510255.jpg


  • #9475
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Macron says he is considering introducing legislation in France that would make it illegal to use public transport without a mask.

    It's funny how a few weeks all these governments were telling everyone that masks are useless but now they re telling people use them. Imagine how many deaths could've been saved if they were not incompetent


  • #9476
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    It's funny how a few weeks all these governments were telling everyone that masks are useless but now they re telling people use them. Imagine how many deaths could've been saved if they were not incompetent

    Not that simple.

    The reason most governments told people that masks aren't that effective was to stop people going out and buying large numbers of face masks and reducing the supply to healthcare workers.
    Even 40 days ago trying to get a facemask online was all but impossible..


  • #9477
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I was reading up about MERS. It emerged in 2012. Its a coronavirus. Its believed it came from bat's into camels and then into humans.

    2 things struck me:
    1) There's no vaccine for MERS. It emerged in 2012. That was 8 years ago.
    2) Infection is human to human transmission. Also infection can occur from infected camels.



    There's a few things here that worries me and in relation to this new virus.

    1) There's no vaccine for mers. Would it be doubtful a vaccine can come about for this covid19?

    2) Mers infection can come from infected camels. There has been reports of cats/tigers/dogs getting this coronavirus. Could it be possible that these animals, if infected can infect humans, especially cats and dogs because these animals are pets and part of the family for so many people. Like can dog licks from an infected animal pass it onto their owners/humans?

    3) Could covid19 eventually mutate with mers and become more letal?


  • #9478
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Deaths in Spain up to 1200, I assume this is some nursing home deaths being added perhaps?


  • #9479
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    It's funny how a few weeks all these governments were telling everyone that masks are useless but now they re telling people use them. Imagine how many deaths could've been saved if they were not incompetent

    WHO


  • #9480
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,165 ✭✭✭893bet


    There is no vaccine for mers or SARS as it’s not required (I.e not financially viable).

    There will be one for CV19.


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  • #9481
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Deaths in Spain up to 1200, I assume this is some nursing home deaths being added perhaps?

    Noticed that. Must be a catch up?


  • #9482
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I was reading up about MERS. It emerged in 2012. Its a coronavirus. Its believed it came from bat's into camels and then into humans.

    2 things struck me:
    1) There's no vaccine for MERS. It emerged in 2012. That was 8 years ago.
    2) Infection is human to human transmission. Also infection can occur from infected camels.



    There's a few things here that worries me and in relation to this new virus.

    1) There's no vaccine for mers. Would it be doubtful a vaccine can come about for this covid19?

    2) Mers infection can come from infected camels. There has been reports of cats/tigers/dogs getting this coronavirus. Could it be possible that these animals, if infected can infect humans, especially cats and dogs because these animals are pets and part of the family for so many people. Like can dog licks from an infected animal pass it onto their owners/humans?

    3) Could covid19 eventually mutate with mers and become more letal?

    MERS had no vaccine developed as it was isolated early and developing a vaccine wasnt commercially viable for any company. Not because a vaccine couldnt be made.


  • #9483
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I was reading up about MERS. It emerged in 2012. Its a coronavirus. Its believed it came from bat's into camels and then into humans.

    2 things struck me:
    1) There's no vaccine for MERS. It emerged in 2012. That was 8 years ago.
    2) Infection is human to human transmission. Also infection can occur from infected camels.



    There's a few things here that worries me and in relation to this new virus.

    1) There's no vaccine for mers. Would it be doubtful a vaccine can come about for this covid19?

    2) Mers infection can come from infected camels. There has been reports of cats/tigers/dogs getting this coronavirus. Could it be possible that these animals, if infected can infect humans, especially cats and dogs because these animals are pets and part of the family for so many people. Like can dog licks from an infected animal pass it onto their owners/humans?

    3) Could covid19 eventually mutate with mers and become more letal?

    TBH all of these scenarios and more besides could happen.There hasn`t been enough time to know how this virus could develop or if a vaccine will be developed for it.


  • #9484
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I was reading up about MERS. It emerged in 2012. Its a coronavirus. Its believed it came from bat's into camels and then into humans.

    2 things struck me:
    1) There's no vaccine for MERS. It emerged in 2012. That was 8 years ago.
    2) Infection is human to human transmission. Also infection can occur from infected camels.


    There's a few things here that worries me and in relation to this new virus.

    1) There's no vaccine for mers. Would it be doubtful a vaccine can come about for this covid19?

    2) Mers infection can come from infected camels. There has been reports of cats/tigers/dogs getting this coronavirus. Could it be possible that these animals, if infected can infect humans, especially cats and dogs because these animals are pets and part of the family for so many people. Like can dog licks from an infected animal pass it onto their owners/humans?

    3) Could covid19 eventually mutate with mers and become more letal?

    Weeks ago I heard a virologist saying that they were making great progress on a SARS vaccine but funding was cut when the virus went away. She said if the SARS vaccine program has finished, the Covid19 vaccine would be a lot quicker.

    WHO confirmed 2,519 MERS cases and 866 deaths. More than 8,000 people fell ill from SARS and 774 died. Since 2004, there have been no reported SARS cases.


  • #9485
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,456 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Not that simple.

    The reason most governments told people that masks aren't that effective was to stop people going out and buying large numbers of face masks and reducing the supply to healthcare workers.
    Even 40 days ago trying to get a facemask online was all but impossible..

    and then your in the shop when someone walks in with a surgical mask on with the top ties tied and the bottom ones hanging loose, i suspect he probably hadnt looked up how to wash your hands correctly either

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #9486
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I was reading up about MERS. It emerged in 2012. Its a coronavirus. Its believed it came from bat's into camels and then into humans.
    2 things struck me:
    1) There's no vaccine for MERS. It emerged in 2012. That was 8 years ago.
    2) Infection is human to human transmission. Also infection can occur from infected camels.
    There's a few things here that worries me and in relation to this new virus.
    1) There's no vaccine for mers. Would it be doubtful a vaccine can come about for this covid19?
    2) Mers infection can come from infected camels. There has been reports of cats/tigers/dogs getting this coronavirus. Could it be possible that these animals, if infected can infect humans, especially cats and dogs because these animals are pets and part of the family for so many people. Like can dog licks from an infected animal pass it onto their owners/humans?
    3) Could covid19 eventually mutate with mers and become more letal?

    There's no MERS vaccine because the cases of it were fairly limited to a specific region. And it was contained with no further infections.
    More likely that humans would infect other mammals as they'd have more contact with potentially infected people.
    MERS and Covid are pretty similar, both respiratory illnesses so it would be like if the cold virus joined forces with the flu. If it were possible i'd be more worried if Covid joined up with Ebola which has a MUCH higher fatality rate than Covid.


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  • #9487
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    893bet wrote: »
    There is no vaccine for mers or SARS as it’s not required (I.e not financially viable).

    There will be one for CV19.

    You or anyone else don`t know if this will ever happen.


  • #9488
    domrush
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭domrush


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    You or anyone else don`t know if this will ever happen.

    Half this thread would be delighted if it didn’t appear by the sounds of it.


  • #9489
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭growleaves


    3) Could covid19 eventually mutate with mers and become more letal?

    Yes but the day before that happens you will fall in the bath and crack your head open.

    But don't worry that happens when you are an old man. Before that you marry a beautiful Spanish girl and have three children.

    Normally I'd ask you to cross my palm with silver but I'm telling fortunes gratis during the lockdown.


  • #9490
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    domrush wrote: »
    Half this thread would be delighted if it didn’t appear by the sounds of it.

    Oh yes we really dont want to be able to go see our elderly parents for the next couple of years.

    No one here would not want a reliable vaccine asap


  • #9491
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Oh yes we really dont want to be able to go see our elderly parents for the next couple of years.

    No one here would not want a reliable vaccine asap

    Well someone here was trying to second guess a virology professor in Oxford who has said that they could have one by August. People might not be unhappy at the prospect of a vaccine but they do seem to hone in on the worst case scenario for every single thing. It's like dealing with a bunch of nihilistic edgy teenagers.


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  • #9492
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    fullstop wrote: »
    I agree. Have noticed this weekend that people don't seem to give a **** about social distancing when out for a walk etc. Had a number of people nearly walk into me today, walking two and three abreast. Have been seeing neighbours having people over more and more in the past week as well.

    Today has seemed like a normal Sunday in the city. Not the ghost town it was a couple of weeks back. I think people are getting bored of being inside. Me included I have to say.


  • #9493
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Today has seemed like a normal Sunday in the city. Not the ghost town it was a couple of weeks back. I think people are getting bored of being inside. Me included I have to say.

    It's understandable to a degree. The lockdown goes against every natural and societal instinct we have. I do hope people can toughen for the few more weeks, it's been phenomenal compared to the **** show I've seen in Denver on sky news.


  • #9494
    Hego Damask
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-04-19/daily-coronavirus-deaths-in-spain-fall-to-410-the-lowest-figure-seen-in-a-month.html
    The number of daily coronavirus deaths registered in Spain fell to 410 on Sunday, according to the latest figures supplied by the Health Ministry. That is the lowest figure seen since March 22, when there were 394.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    Spain 198,674 +4,258 21,238 +1,195 (new deaths)

    I understand El Pais are using a different point for the days, but according to worldometer today has been the worst day since the whole thing started for Spain.
    I expect we will see a headline tomorrow in El Pais when they catch up


  • #9495
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Not that simple.

    The reason most governments told people that masks aren't that effective was to stop people going out and buying large numbers of face masks and reducing the supply to healthcare workers.
    Even 40 days ago trying to get a facemask online was all but impossible..

    Then tell people to use a scarf to cover their nose and mouth...


  • #9496
    podgeandrodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    This should have been mandatory in every country in the world weeks ago.
    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    It's funny how a few weeks all these governments were telling everyone that masks are useless but now they re telling people use them. Imagine how many deaths could've been saved if they were not incompetent

    But if the Chief Medical Officer has now said that community transmission is close to zero, and they got to this point with social distancing, and very little masks, why do we need masks now?


  • #9497
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,194 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Today has seemed like a normal Sunday in the city. Not the ghost town it was a couple of weeks back. I think people are getting bored of being inside. Me included I have to say.

    Social distancing has been as strong as ever where I am. People not even staying on the same pavement as other people.


  • #9498
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Come back in three weeks and do that comparison again. Have you seen their trend for the past 10 days?

    It’s not a contest.


  • #9499
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The great, incredible, unbelievable man himself is on now


  • #9500
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    It's understandable to a degree. The lockdown goes against every natural and societal instinct we have. I do hope people can toughen for the few more weeks, it's been phenomenal compared to the **** show I've seen in Denver on sky news.

    I've only seen clips of the US "protests" on twitter. Utter idiots though, IMHO.


  • #9501
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    trump time!

    128987301340432670.jpg


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