Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

RugbyLad11

podgeandrodge wrote: »

But if the Chief Medical Officer has now said that community transmission is close to zero, and they got to this point with social distancing, and very little masks, why do we need masks now?

Because pretty much everything is shut and hardly anyone is using public transport! Lets see if community transmission stays close to zero once things start opening back up

podgeandrodge

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Because pretty much everything is shut! Lets see if community transmission stays close to zero once things start opening back up

Not disagreeing with you on that. But it still shows that masks are not currently necessary no?

Rob A. Bank

caveat emptor wrote: »

Norovirus? aka winter vomitting. So frequent it has it's own route.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal–oral_route

https://twitter.com/miblogestublog/status/1245114817876287488

2ndcoming

Viruses have one goal: find hosts and multiply. Viruses that are highly fatal are generally not highly contagious. Mainly because the people that have them are too sick to be out and about spreading them, once everyone infected either dies or recovers, the virus fizzles out.

This coronavirus is a mutation of SARS (hence SARS-Cov-2) that is less fatal overall but far more contagious, because people who have it can be out and about spreading it for days before they become sick. Those who do become sick (ie require hospitalisation) essentially have developed SARS, at which point the virus is just as fatal. The problem is the gestation period.

fritzelly

Trump: This is a q-tip - this is an American q-tip - bigger and better than anyone else

BorneTobyWilde

Trump has newspapers on hand, and is reading positive articles about him.

easypazz

Praising himself as usual.

bloodless_coup

I'm aroused seeing this great man in action.

froog

sounds like he's accepting an oscar

BorneTobyWilde

''it was hard to get it aroused, and it is hard to get it aroused, but I got it aroused ''


Those words will be used against him in soundbytes ha

LiquidZeb

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I've only seen clips of the US "protests" on twitter. Utter idiots though, IMHO.

Well look who's leading them. Trump doesn't take it seriously so why should the people? Whatever you think of Harris, Coveney or Varadker the message has been consistent, stay at home unless it's necessary for you to travel. For the most part the Irish people have complied. Trump on the other hand has used the hashtag of demonstrators in Michigan and has undermined his governor's as a result. I think flights to and from America will be kept to a minimum for the rest of 2020, whenever EU routes are re-established.

Hego Damask

entertainment at the finest....

stephenjmcd

We are the king of ventilators.... christ

LiquidZeb

2ndcoming wrote: »

Viruses have one goal: find hosts and multiply. Viruses that are highly fatal are generally not highly contagious. Mainly because the people that have them are too sick to be out and about spreading them, once everyone infected either dies or recovers, the virus fizzles out.

This coronavirus is a mutation of SARS (hence SARS-Cov-2) that is less fatal overall but far more contagious, because people who have it can be out and about spreading it for days before they become sick. Those who do become sick (ie require hospitalisation) essentially have developed SARS, at which point the virus is just as fatal. The problem is the gestation period.

I think there is a hope that the virus will mutate and essentially Nerf itself into something more benign. However remote that is I don't know but hopefully it'll happen.

igCorcaigh

2ndcoming wrote: »

Viruses have one goal: find hosts and multiply. Viruses that are highly fatal are generally not highly contagious. Mainly because the people that have them are too sick to be out and about spreading them, once everyone infected either dies or recovers, the virus fizzles out.

This coronavirus is a mutation of SARS (hence SARS-Cov-2) that is less fatal overall but far more contagious, because people who have it can be out and about spreading it for days before they become sick. Those who do become sick (ie require hospitalisation) essentially have developed SARS, at which point the virus is just as fatal. The problem is the gestation period.

Yes, and HIV is a weird one. A gestation period of about a decade and near 100% cfr.

Imagine if that virus surfaced in the middle ages!

jackofalltrades

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Not that simple.

The reason most governments told people that masks aren't that effective was to stop people going out and buying large numbers of face masks and reducing the supply to healthcare workers.
Even 40 days ago trying to get a facemask online was all but impossible..

All they needed to do was be honest with people.
Tell them to make their own masks at home and leave the medical ones for the front line workers.
People would have followed it quick enough.

stephenjmcd

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We are the king of ventilators.... christ

He seems to be getting things done. Dont get the ill will against him.

easypazz

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We are the king of ventilators.... christ

He went all in on ventilators while the rest of the world was buying ppe, reagent etc.

Now they are playing catchup on the testing.

fritzelly

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Yes, and HIV is a weird one. A gestation period of about a decade and near 100% cfr.

Imagine if that virus surfaced in the middle ages!

Likely burnt itself out - people weren't flying around the world at the time

owlbethere

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

https://twitter.com/miblogestublog/status/1245114817876287488

What the Holy fcuk. Washing vegetables in a sh1tty puddle.

Wibbs

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Yes, and HIV is a weird one. A gestation period of about a decade and near 100% cfr.

Imagine if that virus surfaced in the middle ages!

It would have been just another yearly "plague" back then IG. They didn't just have the black death, they had rolling plagues of all kinds with different symptoms and different death rates for a couple of centuries. Never mind the usual background colds, flu, measles etc.

BorneTobyWilde

'' people said it was the same as the flu, it's nothing like the flu at all''

JP Liz V1

theballz wrote: »

As I said, I am waiting over two weeks. My case was prior.

Despite claims the backlog is gone, many still waiting on results or also some lost tests

I hope tomorrow you'll get yours and it'll be good news, take care

Widdensushi

these speeches are getting very much the same, he needs new material

Atlantic Dawn

Jaysus, I think he see's Cuomo as a competitor to the throne even though he isn't running against him.

MD1990

trump is playing old clips of cuomo praising him. has the lights turned off too like it is a movie clip

this during a pandemic. bizzare

ZX7R

Hego Damask wrote: »

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-04-19/daily-coronavirus-deaths-in-spain-fall-to-410-the-lowest-figure-seen-in-a-month.html



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Spain 198,674 +4,258 21,238 +1,195 (new deaths)

I understand El Pais are using a different point for the days, but according to worldometer today has been the worst day since the whole thing started for Spain.
I expect we will see a headline tomorrow in El Pais when they catch up

World meters has changed its numbers of deaths for spain

froog

trumps video intern getting fired

Wibbs

fritzelly wrote: »

Likely burnt itself out - people weren't flying around the world at the time

This is Yersinia pestis, AKA plague.



It killed between 100 and 200 million people and reduced the population by a third when the Black Death came rolling through and changed the course of human history(mostly for the better actually).

Lucy8080

MD1990 wrote: »

trump is playing old clips of cuomo praising him. has the lights turned off too like it is a movie clip

this during a pandemic. bizzare

I think Trump said that Cuomo clip was from this morning . I don't know either way. Is it an old clip?

Atlantic Dawn

Mexico back in the circle of trust it seems.

kyote00

King of ventilators me hole

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/04/general-motors-first-ventilators-are-ready-for-delivery/

Lucy8080

Lucy8080 wrote: »

I think Trump said that Cuomo clip was from this morning . I don't know either way. Is it an old clip?

Its from today I believe.

s1ippy

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We are the king of ventilators.... christ

That's like Lord of the Flies

Tony EH

froog wrote: »

trump time!

At least Mel's made a few good films.

kyote00

But he won;t show DiBlazio clip...

Jake1 wrote: »

Its from today I believe.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/MysterySolvent/status/1252005704719831045

Ardent

893bet wrote: »

There is no vaccine for mers or SARS as it’s not required (I.e not financially viable).

There will be one for CV19.

Necessity is the mother of invention. I hope you're right.

timsey tiger

growleaves wrote: »

It would be unusual for a respiratory disease to fail to give you immunity.

I'm not saying it can't happen but we're back to worst-case-scenario speculations.

The situation is unknown - therefore its possible that the worst and least likely scenario could play out. That is the terms in which we are discussing this.

You immune to the common cold then?

igCorcaigh

s1ippy wrote: »

That's like Lord of the Flies

OT

But that is a great book.
Was our novel in Leaving Cert English back in 1990.

Love the old B&W television version too.

(poor Piggy)

LiquidZeb

Ardent wrote: »

Necessity is the mother of invention. I hope you're right.

Can you imagine the amount of money, manpower and resources being thrown at this? I'd say it could be the largest global effort since WWII. This could be a turning point for humanity, we could see an increase in the quality of healthcare, an increase in investment in virology and combatting the next threat.

Hopefully all the petty nationalistic squabbling is left by the wayside and international cooperation becomes the norm. I've faith in the experts and professionals they're fantastic dedicated people.

froog

"i like this clip cause it's bipartisan"

10 minutes later - trashing democrats

Rob A. Bank

Beasty

XVI incoming. Make your final posts while you can......

LiquidZeb

Beasty wrote: »

XVI incoming. Make your final posts while you can......

****ing hell. We're going through threads like Trump goes through spray tan canisters.

Miike

timsey tiger wrote: »

You immune to the common cold then?

"the common cold" is an illness not a pathogen. There is hundreds of pathogens that give you "common cold". Around 30% of those are caused by rapidly mutating coronavirus'. SARS-CoV-2 is showing relative stability .

We are also using antibodies from recovered people to help those who are currently very unwell, with moderate - good success. This is promising. SARS and MERS show similar finding in terms of 'immunity' with some studies showing there is antibodies found in the blood of healthcare workers 10+ years post infection with SARS.

Funsterdelux

LiquidZeb wrote: »

****ing hell. We're going through threads like Trump goes through spray tan canisters.

I think we've plateaued

branie2

looking forward to the next thread

kyote00

Trump doesn;t like mosquito's

timsey tiger

Miike wrote: »

"the common cold" is an illness not a pathogen. There is hundreds of pathogens that give you "common cold". Around 30% of those are caused by rapidly mutating coronavirus'. SARS-CoV-2 is showing relative stability .

We are also using antibodies from recovered people to help those who are currently very unwell, with moderate - good success. This is promising. SARS and MERS show similar finding in terms of 'immunity' with some studies showing there is antibodies found in the blood of healthcare workers 10+ years post infection with SARS.

fair enough op said disease though.