Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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expectationlost wrote: »

his child won't be treated by Simon Harris

Call me cynical, but if I were to guess, if his child were to need an ICU bed, he probably wouldn't get one.

caveat emptor

expectationlost wrote: »

that was march 1st a long time ago. 6 weeks

5 - 11 day incubation. Could be third order infection. The test took two weeks to come back. Entirely plausible and in fact probable.

Kid gets it +5 days min
Dad gets it + 5 days min
She gets it + 5 days
Symptoms -> test ?
Tests +14 days test result.

~80% of transmission occurs in households.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

Christy42

New Home wrote: »

Call me cynical, but if I were to guess, if his child were to need an ICU bed, he probably wouldn't get one.

What. We would leave it empty for the sake of it?

We aren't at capacity yet. Why deny someone a bed?

caveat emptor

Christy42 wrote: »

What. We would leave it empty for the sake of it?

We aren't at capacity yet. Why deny someone a bed?

Ask the nursing homes and the guidance they received. Treatment in situ for most it looks like. (Speculation)

is_that_so

fin12 wrote: »

Father pleading on 96fm now for Simon Harris to reply to his emails regarding how his disabled son will be treated if he was to contract the virus.

Simon Harris pure disgrace, answers twitter emails about a f*cking Easter bunny but can’t get in contact with this man.

Sounds like that father is sending emails to completely the wrong person. HSE or HSE live would be a better port of call.

BanditLuke

smelly sock wrote: »

Wow you don't agree with someone and can't be arsed developing a retort or argument so just come out with this BS.

Silly carry.

You said people will be disappointed when we get a vaccine, no retort is needed as it's a ridiculous statement and you know it.

smelly sock

BanditLuke wrote: »

You said people will be disappointed when we get a vaccine, no retort is needed as it's a ridiculous statement and you know it.

Anit vaccers will.

Laois_Man

We can all write an e-mail asking how our own children will be treated if (s)he gets coronavirus. It's a bloody ridiculous thing to expect him to be able to answer without knowing the when or the other circumstances around hospital capacity/availability at that time!

is_that_so

caveat emptor wrote: »

Ask the nursing homes and the guidance they received. Treatment in situ for most it looks like. (Speculation)

According to Henry the call is made based on the individual and what would be best for them in terms of care.

Iamabeliever

caveat emptor wrote: »

5 - 11 day incubation. Could be third order infection. The test took two weeks to come back. Entirely plausible and in fact probable.

Kid gets it +5 days min
Dad gets it + 5 days min
She gets it + 5 days
Symptoms -> test ?
Tests +14 days test result.

~80% of transmission occurs in households.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

Could she not have picked it up in Tesco's?

hawkelady

polesheep wrote: »

She's working long shifts but the same number of hours per week. There is no shortage of PPE at the moment. No nurse is required to work extra hours at the moment.

Bull**** .. yes they are , in Dublin hospitals anyway. Fact , so wind your neck in

Christy42

caveat emptor wrote: »

Ask the nursing homes and the guidance they received. Treatment in situ for most it looks like. (Speculation)

Is the kid in a nursing home? There are issues with bringing frail people into a room full of sick people at the best of times. We don't know the full details of this kids situation and neither does Harris. Without that no one can say what the best course of action is.

This is making a molehill out of entirely flat ground.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

wakka12 wrote: »

46.6% of all deaths in London last week were registered with COVID 19 as a contributing cause of death

Across the UK as a whole 21% of all deaths listed COVID as main or contributing COD
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-one-in-10-virus-deaths-taking-place-outside-hospitals-ons-11973059

The Office for National Statistics reported the highest number of deaths ever recorded in England and Wales last week from all causes, though this database only began in 2005.

I know someone in their late 30s on a ventilator with covid in London currently. Non-smoker, no underlying conditions. Public-facing job. Dose seems to be important.

theballz

Hi,

I got tested the weekend (Saturday,) it was fairly unclear in terms of next steps. They just said the HSE will contact me with results, I know their is a backlog and I am not expecting to hear from them before the end of this week at the earliest, however, I am keen to hear from someone who has tested positive.

What are the next steps?
How did they contact you? Phone or text?
Was it a doctor, nurse etc?

Any help greatly appreciated

caveat emptor

is_that_so wrote: »

According to Henry the call is made based on the individual and what would be best for them in terms of care.

Maybe so. At least they now have oxygen.
https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1249698917937266695?s=20

walshb

Anyone been following Trump’s latest briefings?

What in god’s name is going on with the man?

It’s so so bad. You’re watching it and thinking this has to be some sort of hoax. Nobody can be this ridiculous...

What I cannot understand is how no journalist has yet stood up and said in a firm way, “wtf are you on? Get the hell off that stage..“

I cannot imagine any European country, and particularly us or the UK allowing his utter rantings and Sh1t go unchallenged..

podgeandrodge

walshb wrote: »

Anyone been following Trump’s latest briefings?

What in god’s name is going on with the man?

It’s so so bad. You’re watching it and thinking this has to be some sort of hoax. Nobody can be this ridiculous...

What I cannot understand is how no journalist has yet stood up and said in a firm way, “wtf are you on? Get the hell off that stage..“

I cannot imagine any European country, and particularly us or the UK allowing his utter rantings and Sh1t go unchallenged..

Ohh please, let it wait for the evening hours when Trump takes over this thread

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is_that_so wrote: »

Sounds like that father is sending emails to completely the wrong person. HSE or HSE live would be a better port of call.

Granted this is now a good few weeks later, but...

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112951945

is_that_so

New Home wrote: »

Granted this is now a good few weeks later, but...

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112951945

Interesting. You'd like to think they've sharpened up their act since then!

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is_that_so wrote: »

Interesting. You'd like to think they've sharpened up their act since then!

There's always hope.

caveat emptor

Iamabeliever wrote: »

Could she not have picked it up in Tesco's?

What does it matter. My point that she self isolated AGAINST the advice was a very prudent decision by her. I'm sure most parents did not take this decision as they were advised to continue as normal. I wonder how many infections / deaths are attributable to that NOW clearly wrong advice. i.e if someone in the household has had contact with a suspected case then family should isolate , not just the person.

Considering it was in her kids school more likely but yeah everyone is getting it in Tesco. Aldi and supervalue are grand word on the street is. (sarcasm)

Kermit.de.frog

UK reports 813 new deaths.

(inc +10 in NI)

Ace2007

caveat emptor wrote: »

What does it matter. My point that she self isolated AGAINST the advice was a very prudent decision by her. I'm sure most parents did not take this decision as they were advised to continue as normal. I wonder how many infections / deaths are attributable to that NOW clearly wrong advice. i.e if someone in the household has had contact with a suspected case then family should isolate , not just the person.

Considering it was in her kids school more likely but yeah everyone is getting it in Tesco. Aldi and supervalue are grand word on the street is. (sarcasm)

She didn't self isolate for the 2 weeks after her son's school was shut down.

She self isolated after she got tested.

poppers

hawkelady wrote: »

Bull**** .. yes they are , in Dublin hospitals anyway. Fact , so wind your neck in

My wife and sister inlaw both nurses in dublin . They are not being asked to work extra shift.

Kermit.de.frog

Sweden reports 114 new deaths, brings death toll to over 1,000. Joint highest daily death toll since April 7th and up significantly on recent days (20 deaths yesterday)

Achasanai

walshb wrote: »

What I cannot understand is how no journalist has yet stood up and said in a firm way, “wtf are you on? Get the hell off that stage..“

They have, but it doesn't matter. He will bluster, answer a completely different question or just cut them off.


https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1249828326534975488


Another example, where he's taken to task for claiming he has absolute power:


https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1249837741711544321

weldoninhio

Deleted User wrote: »

Why the need to find a conspiracy in everything. Claire Byrne was confirmed positive on the 23rd of March and Tubridy on the 30th. Tests in both cases a few days before. Was this not prior to the peak? Mary Lou was tested on the 28th in contrast. And from People I know who were tested, and individual tested on the 20th got results on the 22nd, while others not tested until late the following week are in some cases still waiting for results. But no, it's all rte, inner circle.....

The 28th is before the 30th.

polesheep

hawkelady wrote: »

Bull**** .. yes they are , in Dublin hospitals anyway. Fact , so wind your neck in

No they are not. Cool your jets.

bilston

10 more deaths announced in Northern Ireland taking the total to 134. Added to the 365 deaths in the Republic that means that we've now reached 499 on the island. So tonight sadly we will pass the 500 mark.

Of course NI's figures do not include community deaths so may be 40-50% higher based on other countries experiences.

caveat emptor

Ace2007 wrote: »

She didn't self isolate for the 2 weeks after her son's school was shut down.

She self isolated after she got tested.

You clearly didn't click the link. Found it on youtube for you via irish independent.
I really have better stuff to be doing. I'm no sinner but she was right. Proper Irish mammy. That's from 2nd of march.

Sinn Fein leader Mary Lou McDonald said she was postponing meetings and staying at home with her children after a coronavirus case was confirmed at their school but then she then went to dail 3 days later..

expectationlost

is_that_so wrote: »

Sounds like that father is sending emails to completely the wrong person. HSE or HSE live would be a better port of call.

he can talk to the consultation if he gets covid19 otherwise its useless anxiety

Ace2007

caveat emptor wrote: »

You clearly didn't click the link. Found it on youtube for you via irish independent.
I really have better stuff to be doing. I'm no sinner but she was right. Proper Irish mammy. That's from 2nd of march.

Strange that she attended the Dail a few days after this....

Mary Lou McDonald says she will be back in the Dáil for any debate or vote on Thursday, after four days of quarantine with her two children.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mary-lou-mcdonald-to-attend-dail-on-thursday-after-time-in-quarantine-with-children-985560.html

expectationlost

why are they wasting their time talking to trump, try and get interviews with his cabinet, senior advisors/faucci at least or governors... Trump is waste of time.

walshb

Achasanai wrote: »

They have, but it doesn't matter. He will bluster, answer a completely different question or just cut them off.


https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1249828326534975488


Another example, where he's taken to task for claiming he has absolute power:


https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1249837741711544321

I was more thinking an actual heckle and slating of him...

Journalist pretty much telling him to "get the fook off the stage, you imbecile..."

I am not advocating this for any journalist who feels someone is a joke but Trump and his rantings are beyond madness and ridiculousness, hence I am surprised nobody has let rip on him...

is_that_so

expectationlost wrote: »

why are tehy wasting their time talking to trump, try and get interviews with his cabinet, senior advisors at least or governors... Trump is waste of time.

He's POTUS and if POTUS shows up to talk ...

weisses

is_that_so wrote: »

Sounds like that father is sending emails to completely the wrong person. HSE or HSE live would be a better port of call.

True but that won't get him any airtime :rolleyes:

Iamabeliever

caveat emptor wrote: »

You clearly didn't click the link. Found it on youtube for you via irish independent.
I really have better stuff to be doing. I'm no sinner but she was right. Proper Irish mammy. That's from 2nd of march.

Very sensible indeed following the chief medical advice.

Don't think she said she was self isolating though moreso to stay at home to look after her kids, but that's just my opinion and if you don't agree, that is also fine

caveat emptor

Ace2007 wrote: »

Strange that she attended the Dail a few days after this....



https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mary-lou-mcdonald-to-attend-dail-on-thursday-after-time-in-quarantine-with-children-985560.html

I stand corrected. Well done. Her video very misleading. She only stayed at home with the kids for half an hour. Take back everything said previously on the subject. Though the article talks of her intent to attend, I've found the relevant proof.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2020-03-05/3/#spk_8

tikkahunter

caveat emptor wrote: »

You clearly didn't click the link. Found it on youtube for you via irish independent.
I really have better stuff to be doing. I'm no sinner but she was right. Proper Irish mammy. That's from 2nd of march.

She was the only parent doing it, every other parent just got on with it. It is a secondary school, no need for her to stay at home with teenagers. She is a notice box .

expectationlost

is_that_so wrote: »

He's POTUS and if POTUS shows up to talk ...

record it, pull out any facts, ask question over skype.

expectationlost

tikkahunter wrote: »

She was the only parent doing it, every other parent just got on with it. It is a secondary school, no need for her to stay at home with teenagers. She is a notice box .

home many parents were traveling the country meeting people and possibly shaking peoples hands in the previous weeks

caveat emptor

Ace2007 wrote: »

Strange that she attended the Dail a few days after this....



https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mary-lou-mcdonald-to-attend-dail-on-thursday-after-time-in-quarantine-with-children-985560.html

She then went on to say she couldn't attend subsequent sitting as she had a........ wait for it...... Head cold. #hindsight.

https://extra.ie/2020/03/26/news/politics/mary-lou-mcdonald-miss-dail-head-cold

Ace2007

caveat emptor wrote: »

She then went on to say she couldn't attend subsequent sitting as she had a........ wait for it...... Head cold. #hindsight.

https://extra.ie/2020/03/26/news/politics/mary-lou-mcdonald-miss-dail-head-cold

3 weeks later...

So basically she didn't self isolate for 2 weeks when her child was, she only self isolated when she felt sick, i.e. when everyone else also does.

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expectationlost wrote: »

he can talk to the consultation if he gets covid19 otherwise its useless anxiety

Or maybe he's one of those people who prefers to be prepared, rather than spend his time firefighting.

BorneTobyWilde

Wrestlemania 36 went ahead, to empty seats.
Funny that they didn't postpone it , not as if it's real, geez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIh2fmzshwI

Ace2007

expectationlost wrote: »

home many parents were traveling the country meeting people and possibly shaking peoples hands in the previous weeks

Did it stop her doing it the weeks after?

hawkelady

polesheep wrote: »

No they are not. Cool your jets.

Don’t worry, the jets are cool.. I must be wasting my time , according to you , doing up rosters for nursing staff that were on part time but now doing full time .. some of them reluctant but they are stepping up to the plate.. maybe you should talk to your wife more..

sideswipe

Get well soon Mary Lou. At least the weather is good so she can go out her back and tan.

caveat emptor

Ace2007 wrote: »

3 weeks later...

So basically she didn't self isolate for 2 weeks when her child was, she only self isolated when she felt sick, i.e. when everyone else also does.

Yeah you are spot on. I've edited post. I know it was a novel disease etc. That video was misleading. Guess she followed the advice afterall. Poor decision in hindsight if it was contracted at home. I've no insight so is 100% speculation.

expectationlost

Ace2007 wrote: »

3 weeks later...

So basically she didn't self isolate for 2 weeks when her child was, she only self isolated when she felt sick, i.e. when everyone else also does.

Sinn Féin has cancelled its public meetings in Cavan and Galway after a case of coronavirus was confirmed at the school attended by Mary Lou McDonald's children https://www.newstalk.com/news/mary-lou-mcdonald-cancels-meetings-children-attend-coronavirus-hit-dublin-school-976286