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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #4102
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    He is unhinged.

    That he is. I wonder is his cult following deluded enough to vote him back again?

    Last night he basically said he used a handful of the worst clips for his propaganda reel because he had so many better ones !!!

    Far from "bad", Orange Man Abysmal
    (Decided to get in there first with that!)


  • #4103
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    fritzelly wrote: »
    They don't release specific ages only age ranges so I'm not sure if it would be of any use as you could have a 34 year old and a 35 year old but would be in 2 separate brackets.
    If you want one based on the age ranges I can throw one up.

    the range today was given as between 30 and 105 if that helps any


  • #4104
    boardise
    Registered Users Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭boardise


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    He took his time

    Obviously Biden his time.


    [Rapidly heading for exit]


  • #4105
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Coyote wrote: »
    Hi caveat emptor

    you are using a linear scale where the flatting the curve related to a logarithmic scale
    https://study.com/academy/lesson/linear-vs-logarithmic-scales.html
    with linear scale if there is one extra case it goes up so you can never flatten it till it's gone complete

    Regards

    Coyote

    I'm not using anything. The health protection surveillance centre is.
    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/
    It's their job to report on epidemics / pandemics /outbreaks within the state. I'd tend to go with them.
    I'm aware of the difference between linear and logarithmic.

    That charts plots the daily events. i.e positive cases per day. You can see that the number of daily cases is still growing significantly. The hospital beds and ICUS become full even if the rate of change is decreasing because the total daily cases is increasing.

    Happy to be positive, too soon. Wash your hands 51550.


  • #4106
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    khalessi wrote: »
    the range today was given as between 30 and 105 if that helps any

    I laughed then thought were you trying to help - now I'm confused


  • #4107
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    This is propaganda....the virus contains a 2nd genetic componant,

    Some animal ate an infected bat and was then eaten by a human,the only place this was likely to occur was a food market there

    Ive said it a while now. The chinese have a lot to answer for inall of this.

    Ive been once and never again. Its bad enough in the cities so i can just imagine what rural villages are like.


  • #4108
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    fritzelly wrote: »
    I laughed then thought were you trying to help - now I'm confused

    Me too! nevermind


  • #4109
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah but we are supposed to be flattening the curve. Its going up to the right, it doesn't look very flat.

    The flattering of the curve graph always had a line that we need to stay under so that we don't surpass the capacity in our health service. We have stayed under this line successfully. Hence flattening the curve.

    Cases will always go up on a linear scale. You are also including German results in that graph you presented which doesn't represent daily increases correctly.


  • #4110
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 46 - Tuesday 14/04/2020

    DAY
    |
    DATE
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Daily Reporting Increase
    |
    Deaths
    |
    Mortality %
    |
    Hospital
    |
    Hospital %
    |
    ICU
    |
    ICU %
    |
    *Recovered
    |
    Recovery %
    |
    Population %
    |
    **Active Cases
    | ▲Day 1 | ▲10 Days | ▲7 days | ▲3 Days | ■ Day 1 | ■ 10 Days | ■ 7 Days | ■ 3 days
    1
    |
    29/02/2020
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    0.00%
    |
    0.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    1
    | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    2
    |
    01/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0.00%
    |
    0.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    1
    | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    3
    |
    02/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0.00%
    |
    0.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    1
    | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | 0.00% | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | 0.00%
    4
    |
    03/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    2
    |
    100.00%
    |
    0.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    2
    | 25.00% | N/A | N/A | 33.33% | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | 0.00%
    5
    |
    04/03/2020
    |
    2
    |
    4
    |
    6
    |
    200.00%
    |
    300.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    6
    | 60.00% | N/A | N/A | 100.00% | 60.00% | N/A | N/A | 100.00%
    6
    |
    05/03/2020
    |
    6
    |
    7
    |
    13
    |
    116.67%
    |
    75.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    13
    | 69.44% | N/A | N/A | 138.89% | 62.50% | N/A | N/A | 125.00%
    7
    |
    06/03/2020
    |
    13
    |
    5
    |
    18
    |
    38.46%
    |
    -28.57%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    18
    | 65.02% | N/A | 65.02% | 118.38% | 49.49% | N/A | 49.49% | 115.48%
    8
    |
    07/03/2020
    |
    18
    |
    1
    |
    19
    |
    5.56%
    |
    -80.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    19
    | 57.59% | N/A | 65.81% | 53.56% | 33.30% | N/A | 38.06% | -11.19%
    9
    |
    08/03/2020
    |
    19
    |
    2
    |
    21
    |
    10.53%
    |
    100.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    21
    | 52.36% | N/A | 67.32% | 18.18% | 40.71% | N/A | 52.35% | -2.86%
    10
    |
    09/03/2020
    |
    21
    |
    3
    |
    24
    |
    14.29%
    |
    50.00%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    |
    24
    | 48.55% | 48.55% | 69.36% | 10.12% | 41.64% | 41.64% | 59.49% | 23.33%
    11
    |
    10/03/2020
    |
    24
    |
    10
    |
    34
    |
    41.67%
    |
    233.33%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    |
    34
    | 47.92% | 52.72% | 61.02% | 22.16% | 59.07% | 64.98% | 92.82% | 127.78%
    12
    |
    11/03/2020
    |
    34
    |
    9
    |
    43
    |
    26.47%
    |
    -10.00%
    |
    1
    |
    2.33%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    |
    42
    | 46.14% | 55.36% | 36.23% | 27.47% | 53.31% | 63.98% | 48.54% | 91.11%
    13
    |
    12/03/2020
    |
    43
    |
    27
    |
    70
    |
    62.79%
    |
    200.00%
    |
    1
    |
    1.43%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    |
    69
    | 47.42% | 61.64% | 28.54% | 43.64% | 64.60% | 83.98% | 66.39% | 141.11%
    14
    |
    13/03/2020
    |
    70
    |
    20
    |
    90
    |
    28.57%
    |
    -25.93%
    |
    1
    |
    1.11%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.002%
    |
    89
    | 46.07% | 54.50% | 27.12% | 39.28% | 58.13% | 81.38% | 66.77% | 54.69%
    15
    |
    14/03/2020
    |
    90
    |
    39
    |
    129
    |
    43.33%
    |
    95.00%
    |
    2
    |
    1.55%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.003%
    |
    127
    | 45.89% | 38.83% | 32.52% | 44.90% | 60.59% | 60.88% | 91.77% | 89.69%
    16
    |
    15/03/2020
    |
    129
    |
    40
    |
    169
    |
    31.01%
    |
    2.56%
    |
    2
    |
    1.18%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.003%
    |
    167
    | 44.96% | 30.27% | 35.45% | 34.30% | 56.96% | 53.64% | 77.85% | 23.88%
    17
    |
    16/03/2020
    |
    169
    |
    54
    |
    223
    |
    31.95%
    |
    35.00%
    |
    2
    |
    0.90%
    |
    84
    |
    37.67%
    |
    6
    |
    2.69%
    |
    5
    |
    2.24%
    |
    0.005%
    |
    216
    | 44.19% | 29.62% | 37.97% | 35.43% | 55.67% | 60.00% | 75.71% | 44.19%
    18
    |
    17/03/2020
    |
    223
    |
    69
    |
    292
    |
    30.94%
    |
    27.78%
    |
    2
    |
    0.68%
    |
    108
    |
    36.99%
    |
    7
    |
    2.40%
    |
    5
    |
    1.71%
    |
    0.006%
    |
    285
    | 43.46% | 32.15% | 36.44% | 31.30% | 54.12% | 70.77% | 46.35% | 21.78%
    19
    |
    18/03/2020
    |
    292
    |
    74
    |
    366
    |
    25.34%
    |
    7.25%
    |
    2
    |
    0.55%
    |
    140
    |
    38.25%
    |
    12
    |
    3.28%
    |
    5
    |
    1.37%
    |
    0.007%
    |
    359
    | 42.50% | 33.64% | 36.28% | 29.41% | 51.65% | 61.50% | 48.81% | 23.34%
    20
    |
    19/03/2020
    |
    366
    |
    191
    |
    557
    |
    52.19%
    |
    158.11%
    |
    3
    |
    0.54%
    |
    173
    |
    31.06%
    |
    13
    |
    2.33%
    |
    5
    |
    0.90%
    |
    0.011%
    |
    549
    | 42.99% | 37.43% | 34.76% | 36.16% | 56.98% | 72.31% | 42.82% | 64.38%
    21
    |
    20/03/2020
    |
    557
    |
    126
    |
    683
    |
    22.62%
    |
    -34.03%
    |
    3
    |
    0.44%
    |
    211
    |
    30.89%
    |
    17
    |
    2.49%
    |
    5
    |
    0.73%
    |
    0.014%
    |
    675
    | 42.02% | 35.52% | 33.91% | 33.38% | 52.64% | 45.57% | 41.67% | 43.77%
    22
    |
    21/03/2020
    |
    683
    |
    102
    |
    785
    |
    14.93%
    |
    -19.05%
    |
    3
    |
    0.38%
    |
    239
    |
    30.45%
    |
    25
    |
    3.18%
    |
    5
    |
    0.64%
    |
    0.016%
    |
    777
    | 40.79% | 34.37% | 29.86% | 29.91% | 49.38% | 44.67% | 25.37% | 35.01%
    23
    |
    22/03/2020
    |
    785
    |
    121
    |
    906
    |
    15.41%
    |
    18.63%
    |
    4
    |
    0.44%
    |
    277
    |
    30.57%
    |
    36
    |
    3.97%
    |
    5
    |
    0.55%
    |
    0.018%
    |
    897
    | 39.68% | 29.63% | 27.63% | 17.66% | 48.05% | 26.53% | 27.67% | -11.48%
    24
    |
    23/03/2020
    |
    906
    |
    219
    |
    1125
    |
    24.17%
    |
    80.99%
    |
    6
    |
    0.53%
    |
    305
    |
    27.11%
    |
    39
    |
    3.47%
    |
    5
    |
    0.44%
    |
    0.023%
    |
    1114
    | 39.04% | 29.19% | 26.52% | 18.17% | 49.42% | 37.22% | 34.24% | 26.86%
    25
    |
    24/03/2020
    |
    1125
    |
    204
    |
    1329
    |
    18.13%
    |
    -6.85%
    |
    7
    |
    0.53%
    |
    340
    |
    25.58%
    |
    47
    |
    3.54%
    |
    5
    |
    0.38%
    |
    0.027%
    |
    1317
    | 38.20% | 26.67% | 24.69% | 19.24% | 47.17% | 27.04% | 29.29% | 30.92%
    26
    |
    25/03/2020
    |
    1329
    |
    235
    |
    1564
    |
    17.68%
    |
    15.20%
    |
    9
    |
    0.58%
    |
    419
    |
    26.79%
    |
    59
    |
    3.77%
    |
    5
    |
    0.32%
    |
    0.032%
    |
    1550
    | 37.41% | 25.34% | 23.59% | 20.00% | 45.94% | 28.30% | 30.43% | 29.78%
    27
    |
    26/03/2020
    |
    1564
    |
    255
    |
    1819
    |
    16.30%
    |
    8.51%
    |
    19
    |
    1.04%
    |
    489
    |
    26.88%
    |
    67
    |
    3.68%
    |
    5
    |
    0.27%
    |
    0.037%
    |
    1795
    | 36.63% | 23.77% | 18.47% | 17.37% | 44.55% | 25.65% | 9.06% | 5.62%
    28
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    27/03/2020
    |
    1819
    |
    302
    |
    2121
    |
    16.60%
    |
    18.43%
    |
    22
    |
    1.04%
    |
    564
    |
    26.59%
    |
    77
    |
    3.63%
    |
    5
    |
    0.24%
    |
    0.043%
    |
    2094
    | 35.92% | 22.34% | 17.61% | 16.86% | 43.62% | 24.72% | 16.55% | 14.05%
    29
    |
    28/03/2020
    |
    2121
    |
    294
    |
    2415
    |
    13.86%
    |
    -2.65%
    |
    36
    |
    1.49%
    |
    645
    |
    26.71%
    |
    84
    |
    3.48%
    |
    5
    |
    0.21%
    |
    0.049%
    |
    2374
    | 35.15% | 21.19% | 17.45% | 15.59% | 42.02% | 23.73% | 18.89% | 8.10%
    30
    |
    29/03/2020
    |
    2415
    |
    200
    |
    2615
    |
    8.28%
    |
    -31.97%
    |
    46
    |
    1.76%
    |
    703
    |
    26.88%
    |
    113
    |
    4.32%
    |
    5
    |
    0.19%
    |
    0.053%
    |
    2564
    | 34.26% | 16.80% | 16.43% | 12.92% | 39.56% | 4.72% | 11.67% | -5.40%
    31
    |
    30/03/2020
    |
    2615
    |
    295
    |
    2910
    |
    11.28%
    |
    47.50%
    |
    54
    |
    1.86%
    |
    834
    |
    28.66%
    |
    126
    |
    4.33%
    |
    5
    |
    0.17%
    |
    0.059%
    |
    2851
    | 33.52% | 15.67% | 14.59% | 11.14% | 39.81% | 12.87% | 6.88% | 4.29%
    32
    |
    31/03/2020
    |
    2910
    |
    325
    |
    3235
    |
    11.17%
    |
    10.17%
    |
    71
    |
    2.19%
    |
    932
    |
    28.81%
    |
    134
    |
    4.14%
    |
    25
    |
    0.77%
    |
    0.066%
    |
    3139
    | 32.82% | 15.29% | 13.60% | 10.24% | 38.89% | 15.80% | 9.31% | 8.57%
    33
    |
    01/04/2020
    |
    3235
    |
    212
    |
    3447
    |
    6.55%
    |
    -34.77%
    |
    85
    |
    2.47%
    |
    1039
    |
    30.14%
    |
    148
    |
    4.29%
    |
    25
    |
    0.73%
    |
    0.070%
    |
    3337
    | 32.02% | 14.40% | 12.01% | 9.67% | 36.66% | 10.46% | 2.17% | 7.63%
    34
    |
    02/04/2020
    |
    3447
    |
    402
    |
    3849
    |
    11.66%
    |
    89.62%
    |
    98
    |
    2.55%
    |
    1118
    |
    29.05%
    |
    158
    |
    4.10%
    |
    25
    |
    0.65%
    |
    0.078%
    |
    3726
    | 31.42% | 13.15% | 11.34% | 9.79% | 38.21% | 11.32% | 13.76% | 21.67%
    35
    |
    03/04/2020
    |
    3849
    |
    424
    |
    4273
    |
    11.02%
    |
    5.47%
    |
    120
    |
    2.81%
    |
    1203
    |
    28.15%
    |
    165
    |
    3.86%
    |
    25
    |
    0.59%
    |
    0.087%
    |
    4128
    | 30.84% | 12.44% | 10.55% | 9.74% | 37.28% | 12.55% | 11.91% | 20.11%
    36
    |
    04/04/2020
    |
    4273
    |
    331
    |
    4604
    |
    7.75%
    |
    -21.93%
    |
    137
    |
    2.98%
    |
    1265
    |
    27.48%
    |
    169
    |
    3.67%
    |
    25
    |
    0.54%
    |
    0.094%
    |
    4442
    | 30.20% | 11.45% | 9.67% | 10.14% | 35.63% | 8.84% | 9.16% | 24.39%
    37
    |
    05/04/2020
    |
    4604
    |
    390
    |
    4994
    |
    8.47%
    |
    17.82%
    |
    158
    |
    3.16%
    |
    1345
    |
    26.93%
    |
    194
    |
    3.88%
    |
    25
    |
    0.50%
    |
    0.101%
    |
    4811
    | 29.61% | 10.66% | 9.70% | 9.08% | 35.15% | 9.77% | 16.27% | 0.45%
    38
    |
    06/04/2020
    |
    4994
    |
    370
    |
    5364
    |
    7.41%
    |
    -5.13%
    |
    174
    |
    3.24%
    |
    1472
    |
    27.44%
    |
    224
    |
    4.18%
    |
    25
    |
    0.47%
    |
    0.109%
    |
    5165
    | 29.03% | 9.75% | 9.15% | 7.88% | 34.09% | 7.41% | 8.75% | -3.08%
    39
    |
    07/04/2020
    |
    5364
    |
    345
    |
    5709
    |
    6.43%
    |
    -6.76%
    |
    210
    |
    3.68%
    |
    1521
    |
    26.64%
    |
    230
    |
    4.03%
    |
    25
    |
    0.44%
    |
    0.116%
    |
    5474
    | 28.45% | 9.00% | 8.47% | 7.44% | 33.04% | 7.00% | 6.33% | 1.98%
    40
    |
    08/04/2020
    |
    5709
    |
    365
    |
    6074
    |
    6.39%
    |
    5.80%
    |
    235
    |
    3.87%
    |
    1631
    |
    26.85%
    |
    244
    |
    4.02%
    |
    25
    |
    0.41%
    |
    0.123%
    |
    5814
    | 27.90% | 8.81% | 8.45% | 6.74% | 32.36% | 10.78% | 12.13% | -2.03%
    41
    |
    09/04/2020
    |
    6074
    |
    500
    |
    6574
    |
    8.23%
    |
    36.99%
    |
    263
    |
    4.00%
    |
    1718
    |
    26.13%
    |
    253
    |
    3.85%
    |
    25
    |
    0.38%
    |
    0.134%
    |
    6286
    | 27.42% | 8.51% | 7.96% | 7.02% | 32.48% | 9.73% | 4.61% | 12.01%
    42
    |
    10/04/2020
    |
    6574
    |
    1515
    |
    8089
    |
    23.05%
    |
    203.00%
    |
    287
    |
    3.55%
    |
    1777
    |
    21.97%
    |
    261
    |
    3.23%
    |
    25
    |
    0.31%
    |
    0.164%
    |
    7777
    | 27.31% | 9.70% | 9.68% | 12.56% | 36.54% | 29.01% | 32.83% | 81.93%
    43
    |
    11/04/2020
    |
    8089
    |
    839
    |
    8928
    |
    10.37%
    |
    -44.62%
    |
    320
    |
    3.58%
    |
    1849
    |
    20.71%
    |
    268
    |
    3.00%
    |
    25
    |
    0.28%
    |
    0.181%
    |
    8583
    | 26.92% | 10.08% | 10.05% | 13.88% | 34.65% | 28.03% | 29.59% | 65.12%
    44
    |
    12/04/2020
    |
    8928
    |
    727
    |
    9655
    |
    8.14%
    |
    -13.35%
    |
    334
    |
    3.46%
    |
    1903
    |
    19.71%
    |
    275
    |
    2.85%
    |
    25
    |
    0.26%
    |
    0.196%
    |
    9296
    | 26.49% | 9.73% | 10.00% | 13.85% | 33.56% | 17.73% | 25.13% | 48.34%
    45
    |
    13/04/2020
    |
    9655
    |
    992
    |
    10647
    |
    10.27%
    |
    36.45%
    |
    365
    |
    3.43%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    275
    |
    2.58%
    |
    25
    |
    0.23%
    |
    0.216%
    |
    10257
    | 26.13% | 9.65% | 10.41% | 9.60% | 33.62% | 20.83% | 31.07% | -7.17%
    46
    |
    14/04/2020
    |
    10647
    |
    832
    |
    11479
    |
    7.81%
    |
    -16.13%
    |
    406
    |
    3.54%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    275
    |
    2.40%
    |
    25
    |
    0.22%
    |
    0.233%
    |
    11048
    | 25.73% | 9.66% | 10.61% | 8.74% | 32.54% | 21.41% | 29.73% | 2.32%


    Data is cumulative

    CFR = Case fatality rate
    NR = Not Reported

    ▲ = Daily case increase averaged over the previous 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1
    ■ = Daily case reporting change averaged over the previous 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1

    Source: Department of Health and the Health Protection Surveillaence Centre.

    *"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting. Recovered statistics can only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed.

    ** Due to the above issue with reporting of revovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

    Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
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  • #4111
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,383 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Ive said it a while now. The chinese have a lot to answer for inall of this.

    Ive been once and never again. Its bad enough in the cities so i can just imagine what rural villages are like.

    Yes it's very hard to get decent bat these days.


  • #4112
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,995 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Galadriel wrote: »
    Over and over and over again? people have responded to you many times including mods but nope, on and on you go.

    :rolleyes:
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #4113
    boardise
    Registered Users Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭boardise


    con747 wrote: »
    They think 5G is the cause of the virus:rolleyes:

    Irish equivalent of Trump voters :eek:


  • #4114
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Yes it's very hard to get decent bat these days.

    Well the bats not going to get any better and they are going to keep eating it.

    So we may as well lift the lock down soon and learn to live with viruses such as this.


  • #4115
    Iamabeliever
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    This is propaganda....the virus contains a 2nd genetic componant,

    Some animal ate an infected bat and was then eaten by a human,the only place this was likely to occur was a food market there

    Tut tut, very naive. You should get some warm milk and go to bed.


  • #4116
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    joe_99 wrote: »
    The flattering of the curve graph always had a line that we need to stay under so that we don't surpass the capacity in our health service. We have stayed under this line successfully. Hence flattening the curve.

    Cases will always go up on a linear scale. You are also including German results in that graph you presented which doesn't represent daily increases correctly.

    Can you take it up with health protection surveillance centre. I agree with you that flattening the curve is to prevent the capacity of hospital system begin overwhelmed. Claiming that we have done that is inaccurate. Here's why.
    • capacity is a fixed number.
    • number of cases in hospital and or ICU is a function of the number of cases
    • there is a significant lag between a positive result and hospitalisation.
    • daily number of positive cases is still increasing significantly.

    So it doesn't really matter how fast your car is accelerating just as long as it is accelerating for you to hit the speed limit. We have been in lockdown long enough to see the affects. Hopefully it levels off. Our trajectory is not safe.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19%20Epidemiology%20report%20for%20NPHET%2013.04.2020%20_website.pdf
    When the media reports an "outbreak" of a particular disease, have you ever wondered just who declared the outbreak? Or who gets to decide when an outbreak becomes an epidemic? In Ireland, these responsibilities lie with the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC).

    The HPSC is part of the Health Service Executive (HSE). The agency was set up in 1998 to monitor infectious diseases in Ireland, and was originally known as the National Disease Surveillance Centre. The centre’s purpose is not solely to announce epidemics, but to prevent them in future by research and surveillance. The HPSC works alongside Irish hospitals and doctors to gather the most accurate information possible on infectious diseases.

    As part of a shared network of similar organisations worldwide, the HPSC has the most up-to-date information on the spread of disease here and elsewhere.


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  • #4117
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah but we are supposed to be flattening the curve. Its going up to the right, it doesn't look very flat. Taking the derivative and saying it's decreasing is the same as say the car is still accelerating but not as quickly as it was accelerating. It is still going faster however?

    The positive spin is approaching religious fanaticism. I've no doubt it will slow. I'm just not going to say it is until it has.

    Ireland...

    17th in the world for deaths
    20th in the world for cases
    124th in the world for population

    It takes some spinning to put a positive gloss on those shocking figures.


  • #4118
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Putting the German numbers on correct date shows no massive increase. Staying much flatter.


    509595.jpg


  • #4119
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Coyote


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I'm not using anything. The health protection surveillance centre is.
    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/
    It's their job to report on epidemics / pandemics /outbreaks within the state. I'd tend to go with them.
    I'm aware of the difference between linear and logarithmic.

    That charts plots the daily events. i.e positive cases per day. You can see that the number of daily cases is still growing significantly. The hospital beds and ICUS become full even if the rate of change is decreasing because the total daily I increasing.

    Happy to be positive, too soon. Wash your hands 51550.


    hi caveat emptor

    you are using something you are using a linear chart from hpsc.ie, i don't say it's wrong or not a valid chart but i would not us the term flatting the curve with linear chart as it relates to logarithmic charts, yes it's still growing and it's not good. we need to keep lowing the number.
    UK = 66.65 million
    Ireland = 6.5 million or one 10 the size of the UK

    there is a lot more than just confirmed cases, the UK have 93,873 cases with at least 12,107 deaths, Ireland has 11,479 cases with 406 cases per https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?
    so cases found will be more the more we test this is a good thing. would i like to find no cases with the most testing in the world yes but it has to be looked at overall

    we are testing 18,358 per million v 5,637 per million in the UK
    we are finding cases 2,325 per million v 1,383 case in the UK
    our deaths per million are 82 v 178 in the UK or nearly 2.5 times less
    so we are finding a lot more people and that's good


    I wish every country the best in this but taking anyone stat or chart has to be read very carefully and an overall view needs to be looked at.
    I'm not picking on the UK i don't think they are the worst in the EU but they are the easiest for English speakers to follow updates and a lot of people would compare the UK to Ireland

    Regards

    Coyote


  • #4120
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ireland...

    17th in the world for deaths
    20th in the world for cases
    124th in the world for population

    It takes some spinning to put a positive gloss on those shocking figures.

    13th, 20th and 16th respectively at the moment according to Worldmeters.


  • #4121
    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 13,297 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Can you take it up with health protection surveillance centre. I agree with you that flattening the curve is to prevent the capacity of hospital system begin overwhelmed. Claiming that we have done that is inaccurate. Here's why.
    • capacity is a fixed number.
    • number of cases in hospital and or ICU is a function of the number of cases
    • there is a significant lag between a positive result and hospitalisation.
    • daily number of positive cases is still increasing significantly.

    So it doesn't really matter how fast your car is accelerating just as long as it is accelerating for you to hit the speed limit. We have been in lockdown long enough to see the affects. Hopefully it levels off. Our trajectory is not safe.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19%20Epidemiology%20report%20for%20NPHET%2013.04.2020%20_website.pdf

    Unfortunately, due to the backlog in testing and the way the German results have fed into the public domain it is extremely difficult to try and predict anything from the numbers we are seeing. Remembering also that 20% of Irish lab results are also from the backlog.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • #4122
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ireland...

    17th in the world for deaths
    20th in the world for cases
    124th in the world for population

    It takes some spinning to put a positive gloss on those shocking figures.

    How can you compare countries with completely different testing regimes? It make zero sense and is beyond useless.


  • #4123
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Something to ponder when restrictions are eased .... sometime in the future:
    How are we (society) to distinguish between someone who is immune from Covid-19 to someone who is not?
    Is there going to be a mechanism where you will know that we will be interacting with someone who previously had Covid-19 and is now immune (theoretically for now)?

    This will be an important aspect of life pre-vaccine. Are we to trust someone who tells us they are immune? It is really a life/death question for a segment of society.
    I see this dilemma in work and social situations.
    Wonder will they have segregated pubs and clubs, with all the non-immune in the poorer section at the back?

    But seriously, it does begs some questions though.


  • #4124
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    We are beginning to lose the battle with covid 19.


  • #4125
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Id say Sweden will sky rocket soon. Incredible what they are doing. They didnt learn anything from the brits in relation to hear immunity.


  • #4126
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    We are beginning to lose the battle with covid 19.

    No we arent. Please remember that we are probably starting to peak.

    This lockdown over the last 16-17 days will start to be successful. Please dont give up.


  • #4127
    Iamabeliever
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ireland...

    17th in the world for deaths
    20th in the world for cases
    124th in the world for population

    It takes some spinning to put a positive gloss on those shocking figures.

    Not the best but remember ... always look on the briiighy side of life.. dodo dodododo

    At the minute positives are:
    unreal capacity for testing,
    Include an anitbody screen in the next 2 weeks,
    Also, going by Denmark and Austria - week3-4 is the timeline where virus spread is restricted.


  • #4128
    Xertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    boardise wrote: »
    Irish equivalent of Trump voters :eek:

    The upside is they poll at about 1% or so here, and that’s in a PR STV voting system with extremely low bars to entry.

    So I think we can safely say, they’re they fringe of a niche of the far, far fringes of Irish politics.

    Trump is actually in office and won an election in a first part the post system, albeit with electoral college distortions.

    In Ireland basically all of the political parties have been extremely pragmatic and sensible about the pandemic - right across the spectrum.


  • #4129
    Iamabeliever
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Something to ponder when restrictions are eased .... sometime in the future:
    How are we (society) to distinguish between someone who is immune from Covid-19 to someone who is not?
    Is there going to be a mechanism where you will know that we will be interacting with someone who previously had Covid-19 and is now immune (theoretically for now)?

    This will be an important aspect of life pre-vaccine. Are we to trust someone who tells us they are immune? It is really a life/death question for a segment of society.
    I see this dilemma in work and social situations.
    Wonder will they have segregated pubs and clubs, with all the non-immune in the poorer section at the back?

    But seriously, it does begs some questions though.

    Get a tag on the arm like the film


  • #4130
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1250127433820405770



    People now suggesting Boris was in hiding, playing the victim.

    People? What do you think yourself Toby?


  • #4131
    nj27
    Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    Combining the lag in the testing system and the virus' own incubation period we are yet to see any of tangible results of the lockdown in daily case numbers, but we should be approaching that point soon. The number of people contracting the virus today has to have dropped substantially from pre-lockdown conditions, so give it a week or so for the various lags to run out and we'll see the numbers begin to fall. The numbers reported over the past few days don't warrant panic.


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  • #4132
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Is there a stat for the average daily death rate in Ireland pre Covid 19? not that it's particularly relevant to this virus but just to gauge where we are with this thing ......are we way off the scale or what?

    notwithstanding the fact people still die of other causes right now


  • #4133
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,757 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ireland...

    17th in the world for deaths
    20th in the world for cases
    124th in the world for population

    It takes some spinning to put a positive gloss on those shocking figures.

    The people who spin we are doing well, do leave me thinking we have a lot of people in denial, blind government supporters, gullible or simply intellectually challenged. I am sorry I have to say that but it is not good.


  • #4134
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,455 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ireland...

    17th in the world for deaths
    20th in the world for cases
    124th in the world for population

    It takes some spinning to put a positive gloss on those shocking figures.

    I don't believe in spinning in either direction. Your figures are equally spinning a negative.

    Deaths are not comparable due to huge differences in reporting criteria and cases reflect Ireland being among the top countries for tests per million of population.

    When the hell will people realise that this is not a competition and these comparisons are fruitless? People worldwide are becoming seriously ill. Every day families are grieving. Let's stop talking up, or down, the situation with spurious league tables.


  • #4135
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Is there a stat for the average daily death rate in Ireland pre Covid 19? not that it's particularly relevant to this virus but just to gauge where we are with this thing ......are we way off the scale or what?

    notwithstanding the fact people still die of other causes right now

    Somewhere way back average of 76 daily was mentioned.


  • #4136
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    RobertKK wrote: »
    The people who spin we are doing well, do leave me thinking we have a lot of people in denial, blind government supporters, gullible or simply intellectually challenged. I am sorry I have to say that but it is not good.

    The IMF told the truth today

    Very few comments on here about it

    It's a total disaster


  • #4137
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Just watching the 9 news now and what the imf is saying. This could be the worst recession since the 1930s depression.


    I knew this virus is going to be bad and so much more but christ on a bike, facing down the road of a depression as well.


    More history being made here at home with FG and FF looking likely of getting into government together.


  • #4138
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    RobertKK wrote: »
    The people who spin we are doing well, do leave me thinking we have a lot of people in denial, blind government supporters, gullible or simply intellectually challenged. I am sorry I have to say that but it is not good.

    As a frontline doctor I must disagree. Compared to what we planned for we are doing very well from a capacity and resources point of view. I'm sure you won't believe me but I have no loyalty to any politician I post my honest views here.


  • #4139
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Coyote wrote: »
    hi caveat emptor

    you are using something you are using a linear chart from hpsc.ie, i don't say it's wrong or not a valid chart but i would not us the term flatting the curve with linear chart as it relates to logarithmic charts, yes it's still growing and it's not good. we need to keep lowing the number.
    UK = 66.65 million
    Ireland = 6.5 million or one 10 the size of the UK

    there is a lot more than just confirmed cases, the UK have 93,873 cases with at least 12,107 deaths, Ireland has 11,479 cases with 406 cases per https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?
    so cases found will be more the more we test this is a good thing. would i like to find no cases with the most testing in the world yes but it has to be looked at overall

    we are testing 18,358 per million v 5,637 per million in the UK
    we are finding cases 2,325 per million v 1,383 case in the UK
    our deaths per million are 82 v 178 in the UK or nearly 2.5 times less
    so we are finding a lot more people and that's good


    I wish every country the best in this but taking anyone stat or chart has to be read very carefully and an overall view needs to be looked at.
    I'm not picking on the UK i don't think they are the worst in the EU but they are the easiest for English speakers to follow updates and a lot of people would compare the UK to Ireland

    Regards

    Coyote

    I do understand what you are saying. You clearly get it. Firstly I'm looking at the daily number of confirmed cases. The aggregate is useless in this instance.

    This is not a World Cup or other sports contest. I'm not looking at what other countries are doing. I don't judge myself against others low standards and as a nation I don't think we do either.

    So that chart with the daily cases. The median time to hospitalisation lags significantly. Also the average length of stay in hospital is very long comparatively. So cases build and it takes time for those cases to enter the hospital system and takes even longer to get out of hospital.

    You may not see the effect of daily cases on the symptoms until a week after.
    Average hospital stay is 2 weeks. So If cases are increasing it's a problem. Staying at home bored ****less is supposed to help us. Crucially if we reach a critical mass the overwhelming of hospitals could occur no matter what we do.

    The lag is significant and that's why only looking at current hospital admissions is already out of date.


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.13.20035436v2.full.pdf

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    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30075-4/fulltext


  • #4140
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,069 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    2,031 deaths in the USA so far today, will be highest toll so far for the world actually in a day by the end. 2035 was previous high some days back.


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  • #4141
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Is there a stat for the average daily death rate in Ireland pre Covid 19? not that it's particularly relevant to this virus but just to gauge where we are with this thing ......are we way off the scale or what?

    notwithstanding the fact people still die of other causes right now

    About 90 a day. Tony Holohan referenced it in the press conference earlier.


  • #4142
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Is there a stat for the average daily death rate in Ireland pre Covid 19? not that it's particularly relevant to this virus but just to gauge where we are with this thing ......are we way off the scale or what?

    notwithstanding the fact people still die of other causes right now

    There was an average death rate of around 79 people per day in 2014 rising to 84 by 2018.

    In Q1 2019 it was 8618 - assuming that trend remains the average 2019 death rate would be 94 per day.


  • #4143
    Michael Dwyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just watching the 9 news now and what the imf is saying. This could be the worst recession since the 1930s depression.


    I knew this virus is going to be bad and so much more but christ on a bike, facing down the road of a depression as well.


    More history being made here at home with FG and FF looking likely of getting into government together.

    The latter paragraph is the best news of the day. The best option for stable government. We're going to need that.


  • #4144
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    JRant wrote: »
    Unfortunately, due to the backlog in testing and the way the German results have fed into the public domain it is extremely difficult to try and predict anything from the numbers we are seeing. Remembering also that 20% of Irish lab results are also from the backlog.

    Totally agree. I right pigs dinner. I'd still go with the HPSC reports though. They have to attribute the positive cases correctly. Hence there graph doesn't show it decreasing.


  • #4145
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just watching the 9 news now and what the imf is saying. This could be the worst recession since the 1930s depression.


    I knew this virus is going to be bad and so much more but christ on a bike, facing down the road of a depression as well.


    More history being made here at home with FG and FF looking likely of getting into government together.

    I'm not an economist but...
    Business around the world is closed down or in semi hibernation - no one is trading bar essential items (food etc)
    It's not like people are losing their jobs because there is no work - once this is all over things will start to go back to normal, people will still have money, the house they live in, booking holidays, business will start trading again - in fact there may well be a large pool of money to be pumped back in to the economy from all the savings being made at the moment.

    Yeah GDP may go down but it's hardly going to be the worst recession ever - IMF are only thinking of themselves. In fact every few months they seem to come up with a new warning even tho the previous ones never materialised


  • #4146
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    The IMF told the truth today

    Very few comments on here about it

    It's a total disaster
    Yeah, it was shocking actually.
    Was expecting it to be discussed on one of the threads.


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  • #4147
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Somewhere way back average of 76 daily was mentioned.

    As many as that? ok


  • #4148
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    splinter65 wrote: »
    People? What do you think yourself Toby?

    Haha, he got the idea off the CMO. (joke in poor taste I'll admit)


  • #4149
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    As a frontline doctor I must disagree. Compared to what we planned for we are doing very well from a capacity and resources point of view. I'm sure you won't believe me but I have no loyalty to any politician I post my honest views here.
    And thank you for taking the time to post on here.
    Your opinion really does matter to a lot of us.


  • #4150
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just watching the 9 news now and what the imf is saying. This could be the worst recession since the 1930s depression.


    I knew this virus is going to be bad and so much more but christ on a bike, facing down the road of a depression as well.

    I suggested it a few weeks ago:-

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112904211
    GM228 wrote: »
    Possibly the world's second great depression?


  • #4151
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,995 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    smelly sock wrote: »
    No we arent. Please remember that we are probably starting to peak.

    This lockdown over the last 16-17 days will start to be successful. Please dont give up.

    I hope so, the rise in deaths is shocking and sad :(
    https://forumofgames.com/




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