Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

KiKi III

hotmail.com wrote: »

One wonders if Americans spoke Dutch, would we even be taking notice of these press conferences.

If my aunt had balls...

fritzelly

Turtwig wrote: »

Look I don't like China but even then there are limits.
Their initial PCR tests had a false negative of about 30%. So they were largely relying on lung images to make formal diagnosis. You can't just x-ray your entire population when the health service is bursting at the seems in a pandemic.
If China was the most transparent society on earth they'd never be able to report the actual number of infected accurately. They were caught completely in the initial outbreak. Testing, resources, diagnostics are extremely limited.

No they were not - they tried to cover it up for a month

smelly sock

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The UFC

and WWE


ffs

Its the GAA over here ffs. We're not that different.

Rob A. Bank

wakka12 wrote: »

Spain and Italy just let thousands of elderly die alone and with no help in nurshing homes, many of their deaths have not even been reported. Yeh way better than USA

USA is not dealing with this crisis any worse than the rest of the Western world

Comedy gold !

fritzelly

hotmail.com wrote: »

One wonders if Americans spoke Dutch, would we even be taking notice of these press conferences.

Yes - what's your point or is it the same as last night and the night before and the...

ShineOn7

Spencer Brown wrote: »

What the **** is going on

America.

owlbethere

RobertKK wrote: »

Leo has his script writers to quote Heaney.

I'm glad he does. I think it's nice to give something inspirational and comforting.

Hurrache

wakka12 wrote: »

Spain and Italy just let thousands of elderly die alone and with no help in nurshing homes, many of their deaths have not even been reported. Yeh way better than USA

USA is not dealing with this crisis any worse than the rest of the Western world

Those abandoned nursing homes wasn't state policy.

khalessi

I reckon there is a bet amongst his speech writers to see how many names he can get through in a row fluently

Tandey

The GAA.

Good lad donie.

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Product placement ffs

This covid update was kindly brought to you by Coca-Cola America's real choice.

smelly sock

wakka12 wrote: »

Spain and Italy just let thousands of elderly die alone and with no help in nurshing homes, many of their deaths have not even been reported. Yeh way better than USA

USA is not dealing with this crisis any worse than the rest of the Western world

Its America, its the narrative.

Look at Sweden. No lockdown and **** all restrictions.

But hippy arseholes on here like to talk ****e about the "scandanavian model".

The swedes are going to destory their country.

hotmail.com

owlbethere wrote: »

I'm glad he does. I think it's nice to give something inspirational and comforting.

Lol

fritzelly

uncleoswald wrote: »

How is that contradictory? WHO can't protect the world if they aren't being granted access to the infected areas, wherever they may be.

As I said, it's a balancing act. They are a severely underfunded organisation that have to go to some of the most unhospitable places on earth to track deadly diseases and you are worried about what they call them? I think WHO have bigger concerns to be honest.

Other countries have no problem inviting them into help unless you are China when you say you are not getting in til we have sanitized all traces of it and we control where you go and what you see but here's some nice reports we made for you earlier

BorneTobyWilde

I can't believe this has happened. I can't. And I just wanna say thanks to Apollo for fighting me. Apollo. I wanna thank Mickey for training me.
Fan: We love ya, Trump!
Yeah, I love yous too. Most of all, I wanna thank God. Except for my kid bein' born, this is the greatest night in the history of my life. I just wanna say one thing to my wife who's home: YO, Melania! I DID IT!!

Atlantic Dawn

Is he waiting until the reporters get sciatica from sitting too long on those chairs that they just go home before asking any questions?

Andrew00

Has Fauci been sacked

smelly sock

Hurrache wrote: »

Those abandoned nursing homes wasn't state policy.

Officially it wasnt......

hotmail.com

smelly sock wrote: »

Its America, its the narrative.

Look at Sweden. No lockdown and **** all restrictions.

But hippy arseholes on here like to talk ****e about the "scandanavian model".

The swedes are going to destory their country.

Yes there is a huge anti Americanism with the anti Trumpers. They don't seem to accept that he represents a large section of Americans. He is America.

ShineOn7

wakka12 wrote: »

Spain and Italy just let thousands of elderly die alone and with no help in nurshing homes,not even any morphine to ease the pain, many of their deaths have not even been reported

Jesus. That's horrendous

Source?

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

One wonders if Americans spoke Dutch, would we even be taking notice of these press conferences.

Yes we would via a translator, also some Americans do speak Dutch and a couple of hundred other languages.

wakka12

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Jesus. That's horrendous

Source?

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/21/italian-mayor-claims-the-true-death-toll-from-covid-19-likely-to-be-much-higher

And look up abandoned nursing homes in Spain, plenty of stories

Its not even limited to these two countries. The death toll from COVID worldwide is likely several hundred thousand, who knows how many have died in Iran and China for example

callaway92

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Jesus. That's horrendous

Source?

Every news show

Turtwig

fritzelly wrote: »

No they were not - they tried to cover it up for a month

(Thanks for ignoring the rest of my post.)

Two months actually. Patient zero is from November 2019. But you completely misunderstood the point. Any area caught unprepared in the peak of an initial outbreak is not going have accurate case data.

Kermit.de.frog

There is no way Fauci supports opening anything by May 1st.

I'd say he'll resign.

hotmail.com

DubInMeath wrote: »

Yes we would via a translator, also some Americans do speak Dutch and a couple of hundred other languages.

Then why isn't Angela Merkel's speeches featured on the media, given that she is more influential to us, than the US president.

owlbethere

What the fcuk is he doing listing out companies and ceos

BorneTobyWilde

He wants to thank all the billionaires of the USA,

kmart6

Andrew00 wrote: »

Has Fauci been sacked

No.

Hurrache

smelly sock wrote: »

Officially it wasnt......

Are you fed your list of conspiracy crap that you constantly regurgitate from a YouTube account or something? Lizard people?

khalessi

hotmail.com wrote: »

Then why isn't Angela Merkel's speeches featured on the media, given that she is more influential to us, than the US president.

She is coherent and not delusional for the most part

Tandey

owlbethere wrote: »

What the fcuk is he doing listing out companies and ceos

It’s his victory lap.

It’s an endless one btw.

Lollipop95

Can the governors of the individual states refuse to comply with Trump or will they have no choice in opening up on the 1st of May?

owlbethere

hotmail.com wrote: »

Lol

At least Leo isn't calling out company names and ceos during his speeches

BorneTobyWilde

owlbethere wrote: »

What the fcuk is he doing listing out companies and ceos

The ''I'll rub your back, you rub mine strategy ''

Hurrache

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Jesus. That's horrendous

Source?

This is a good example of people believing anything they read. React as if it's fact, then ask for a source.

Kermit.de.frog

Trump saying he wants to open up states by May 1st.

Then goes on to say they may have to shut them down again....when the inevitable happens.

smelly sock

smelly sock wrote: »

Its America, its the narrative.

Look at Sweden. No lockdown and **** all restrictions.

But hippy arseholes on here like to talk ****e about the "scandanavian model".

The swedes are going to destory their country.

You've changed your tune since this morning when you were calling for our current restrictions to be lifted so hardware stores etc could reopen.

jimmycrackcorm

hotmail.com wrote: »

One wonders if Americans spoke Dutch, would we even be taking notice of these press conferences.

Yes, because for the same reason Americans would be speaking Dutch, so would we have ended up too.

KiKi III

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Can the governors of the individual states refuse to comply with Trump or will they have no choice in opening up on the 1st of May?

I believe the decision rests with the governers.

hotmail.com

owlbethere wrote: »

At least Leo isn't calling out company names and ceos during his speeches

There's others leaders to compare Leo to. Why do you pick the worst to compare him with? Plus America has different system to us.

fritzelly

Turtwig wrote: »

(Thanks for ignoring the rest of my post.)

Two months actually. Patient zero is from November 2019. But you completely misunderstood the point. Any area caught unprepared in the peak of an initial outbreak is not going have accurate case data.

Wasn't ignoring it, agreed with it - but that was at the start and later on as well but they were doing clinical diagnosis
They ignored it hoping it would go away - they had a month to prepare before it blew up but didn't

kyote00

He has no power to tell individual states what to do in this instance....

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Can the governors of the individual states refuse to comply with Trump or will they have no choice in opening up on the 1st of May?

Roger_007

owlbethere wrote: »

What the fcuk is he doing listing out companies and ceos

Election campaign contributions are very important.;)

bloodless_coup

People who dislike trump actually watch this on a nightly basis just to give out about trump? My first and last time watching.

Hurrache

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/21/italian-mayor-claims-the-true-death-toll-from-covid-19-likely-to-be-much-higher

I read that twice and there's nothing in there backing up your claims.

fritzelly

hotmail.com wrote: »

Then why isn't Angela Merkel's speeches featured on the media, given that she is more influential to us, than the US president.

You've been told if you don't like it don't visit the thread at this time of night

ShineOn7

Hurrache wrote: »

This is a good example of people believing anything they read. React as if it's fact, then ask for a source.

Fair point.



But at least i asked for a source

hotmail.com

doylefe wrote: »

People who dislike trump actually watch this on a nightly basis just to give out about trump? My first and last time watching.

They love him... can't get enough of him.

Kermit.de.frog

Has Trump just implicitly threatened states with cuts to federal funding if they don't do what he says?