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  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭rahmalec


    March 18th - April 18th (up until last night around 1am):

    Year - #deaths
    2020 - 4784
    2019 - 3772
    2018 - 3764
    2017 - 3318
    2016 - 3680


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    rahmalec wrote: »
    March 18th - April 18th (up until last night around 1am):

    Year - #deaths
    2020 - 4784
    2019 - 3772
    2018 - 3764
    2017 - 3318
    2016 - 3680

    That fairly hard to argue with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    rahmalec wrote: »
    March 18th - April 18th (up until last night around 1am):

    Year - #deaths
    2020 - 4784
    2019 - 3772
    2018 - 3764
    2017 - 3318
    2016 - 3680

    So around 31% increase over the average of the previous 4 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Is it against the law to have on the death notice that the person died tragically of Covid-19? I have not seen a single case on RIP where it's listed, would have thought it should be an option for the family to document if they wanted to.

    There’s no laws about death notices. Why would there be? No more then anything publicly printed there couldn’t be any defamation of character or discriminatory remarks in a death notice but there’s no specific legislation surrounding a death notice.
    Almost every death in Ireland results in a notice being posted on RIP.ie.
    The notice is mostly posted by the undertaker after consulting with the bereaved loved ones.
    You will see the odd notice that has been entirely constructed and posted by the family.
    The wording and detail in the death notice is lots of times left to the undertaker. The notice can be very brief with scant detail eg Patrick Ryan of 6 Main St Ballygobackwards died on Fri 15 April and his funeral mass will be in St Mary’s on Sunday at 11 followed by burial in St Michael’s cemetery, or very long listing family both immediate and extended by name and sometimes theyre location, the deceased died suddenly or peacefully or tragically or unexpectedly but peacefully, surrounded by family and/or in the care of Dunlivin Nursing Home.
    He or she maybe late of Longtown Tax office/ O’Briens Pub Littletown or CIE/ESB etc etc
    It’s all a matter of personal taste.
    If your mad nosey for the cause of death it can often be identified in the choice of charity the notice asks you to make a donation to in lieu of wasting money on flowers. Irish Cancer Society Parkinson’s Ireland Heart Foundation etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    rahmalec wrote: »
    March 18th - April 18th (up until last night around 1am):

    Year - #deaths
    2020 - 4784
    2019 - 3772
    2018 - 3764
    2017 - 3318
    2016 - 3680

    What's the official number for the same period, do you know?
    For those doubting these numbers and the reasoning behind them....
    The caveats are paid out both here and on the twitter time line, not a perfect system, but as reliable as any IMHO.

    Unlike the HSE figures, there is no vested interests or spin involved, and remember, the HSE have *ahem* adjusted their figures twice already (not counting the German figures/keeping them separate, and 'adjusting' the dates yesterday) - they don't as an institution a great record on this type of thing (reference the cervical test figures in the last year alone).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    This thread has died a death so to speak in recent days but a point worth noting in relation to it.....

    The Official numbers took their now customary Friday evening jump this week again, this time with the addition on 185 additional 'likely' deaths, is deaths not officially tested/diagnosed as Covid19, but likely all the same, the 'if it looks like a duck/walks like a duck/quacks like a duck' assessment of people who sadly lost their lives recently.

    Certainly backs up the figures on the thread about the Rip.ie figures being an accurate representation of the real numbers.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    This thread has died a death so to speak in recent days but a point worth noting in relation to it.....

    The Official numbers took their now customary Friday evening jump this week again, this time with the addition on 185 additional 'likely' deaths, is deaths not officially tested/diagnosed as Covid19, but likely all the same, the 'if it looks like a duck/walks like a duck/quacks like a duck' assessment of people who sadly lost their lives recently.

    Certainly backs up the figures on the thread about the Rip.ie figures being an accurate representation of the real numbers.....


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    22 people at least have died in a nursing home in the east in the last month where I have a relative- most deaths occurred in last 10 days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    RIP to the elderly, odds aren't in their favour in larger shared facilities unless all the staff are isolated there also, and all visitors/deliveries stopped.

    Wonder what on earth they're going to do with quickly emptying care homes, turn them into DP Centres?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    RIP to the elderly, odds aren't in their favour in larger shared facilities unless all the staff are isolated there also, and all visitors/deliveries stopped.

    Wonder what on earth they're going to do with quickly emptying care homes, turn them into DP Centres?

    Tens of thouands of people pass further into old age every year, I dont think nurshing homes will ever have a problem filling rooms


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Tens of thouands of people pass further into old age every year, I dont think nurshing homes will ever have a problem filling rooms
    Thousands could well end up brown bread if there are multiple waves of COVID (combine this as an additive figure on regular winter flu seasons).

    Also the new wuflu will also be here every year, and who's going to put their elderly relations into a high capacity home, knowing well the likely fate, or high risk, a difficult decision.

    At the end of the day, the operaters run a business, and will want full capacity in order to operate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    The number of deaths on RIP.ie over the past 7 days (to 25th April) was an average of 114 per day, compared to 137 per day the previous week. This is a drop of 17%. It is still above normal levels but hopefully this is the start of a trend and we see a further fall next week.

    With all the reporting delays on Covid-19 deaths, I think RIP.ie gives the most up to date picture of mortality trends. It's not perfect, but it will give a very good indication.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    The number of deaths on RIP.ie over the past 7 days (to 25th April) was an average of 114 per day, compared to 137 per day the previous week. This is a drop of 17%. It is still above normal levels but hopefully this is the start of a trend and we see a further fall next week.

    With all the reporting delays on Covid-19 deaths, I think RIP.ie gives the most up to date picture of mortality trends. It's not perfect, but it will give a very good indication.

    The number of deaths per day on RIP.ie over the past 7 days (7th May to 13th May inclusive) was an average of 98 per day. Good news, very close to normal levels now. It is 40 lives per day saved compared to where we were just a few weeks ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,321 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Browsing the pages and noticed a lot of 'online condolences' seem to be a little odd

    They finish off with phrases like
    'From Mary a grandmother'
    'From Anne a mother'
    'A teacher'

    Feels to me like random odd balls logging in and posting random condolences. Like Funeral crashers


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