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Top Irish Lawyer to be charged...

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    #2
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    A pretty dodgy profession.


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    #3
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    There's dodgy and there's outright professional misconduct, this sounds a bit more than dodgy.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    His client broke one of the golden rules of life; never give anyone your bank card and PIN number. And why did it take him years to realise the deceipt? Silly carry but if the lawyer is guilty as charged he'll probably get a small punishment. Cant see him having a holiday in Mountjoy. Bizarre stuff.


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    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    The bar always defends the bar .


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    #6
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,990 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It's there a league table....


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    #7
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Lots of dodgy lawyers out there, not just exceptional cases.


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    #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shouldn't he be chasing ambulances or defending the valour of a pond rat with over 100 convictions?

    No moral scruples.


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    Ticking and Bashing
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭Ticking and Bashing


    It's strange to hand over your ATM card and your PIN and not to review the transactions afterwards to double check that the appropriate withdrawal was made.


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    His client broke one of the golden rules of life; never give anyone your bank card and PIN number. And why did it take him months to realise the deceipt? Silly carry but if the lawyer is guilty as charged he'll probably get a small punishment. Cant see him having a hokiday in Mountjoy. Bizarre stuff.

    His small punishment will include loss of earnings that will amount to millions of euro.

    If he is convicted, but seeing as he is one of Irelands top lawyers I can't see the Gardai taking a prosecution unless they had a firm belief they would secure a conviction.

    How you can make out the victim is at fault is baffling.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    His small punishment will include loss of earnings that will amount to millions of euro.

    If he is convicted, but seeing as he is one of Irelands top lawyers I can't see the Gardai taking a prosecution unless they had a firm belief they would secure a conviction.

    How you can make out the victim is at fault is baffling.

    He's not at fault but shouldn't be handing out his bank card and PIN for anybody. The lawyer, if guilty, is a lowlife scumbag. I have little faith in our judicial system punishing a fat cat like this accordingly.


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    He's not at fault but shouldn't be handing out his bank card and PIN for anybody. The lawyer, if guilty, is a lowlife scumbag.

    There can be a lot of reasons why someone would have to ask someone else to withdraw money for them and some people would be considered more trustworthy than others.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    un5byh7sqpd2x0
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    Ticking and Bashing wrote: »
    It's strange to hand over your ATM card and your PIN and not to review the transactions afterwards to double check that the appropriate withdrawal was made.

    Perhaps he was incarcerated?


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    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    There can be a lot of reasons why someone would have to ask someone else to withdraw money for them and some people would be considered more trustworthy than others.

    I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as i could throw them.


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    paddy19
    Registered Users Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭paddy19


    "However, as well as withdrawing €200 for the legal matter, the solicitor is also alleged to have taken out an extra €400 which he kept for himself.

    I'm shocked, shocked that a member of the legal profession has allegedly ripped off a client ... surly some mistake, confusion or misunderstanding.

    The only question that arises is why didn't he stick another €400 onto the bill like the rest of his colleagues..


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    McCrack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭McCrack


    If he pleads or is found guilty the law society will move to strike him off, theft or dishonesty on the part of a solicitor is a big no no


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    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Best thing the layer should do is hand back the money and a few thousand on top.

    Dragging his reputation through the media and wasting court time etc would be pointless...

    Talk about being caught by the bagoullies .


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    lomb
    Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭lomb


    I think he was just billing him in advance!


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    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    No doubt the lawyer will have some excuse to throw some doubt no matter how little into the equation. Lets see how it pans out but i have no faith in a big fat cat lawyer losing his career or millions of euro over this. If guilty he should be locked up even but zero chance of that happening.


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    Rockbeast2
    Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    Walking to ATM
    Withdrawing cash.
    Returning ATM card.

    = €400.00

    EDIT: €325.00 + 23% VAT per hour or part thereof.

    Time is money, baby! :-)


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    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    nthclare wrote: »
    Best thing the layer should do is hand back the money and a few thousand on top.

    Dragging his reputation through the media and wasting court time etc would be pointless...

    Talk about being caught by the bagoullies .

    I doubt we will ever learn this solicitors name.


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    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    nthclare wrote: »
    The bar always defends the bar .

    The bar is pretty low when it comes to the bar defending the bar.


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    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    Walking to ATM
    Withdrawing cash.
    Returning ATM card.

    = €400.00

    Time is money, baby! :-)

    Exactly. The Spanish lad didn't realise that was the lawyers fee for walking across the road and having to withdraw money for him. Those manssions in Foxrock they live in dont come cheap. Someones gotta pay for it.


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    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Barring a barring, I'm not sure the bar will do anything.


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    Harry Palmr
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    Surely if someone is found guilty and needs to pay a court fine or fee you simply leave having signed that you will pay and then you go to an ATM or whatever and do so yourself?

    Why would you be stopped from doing that? Or was this upstanding solicitor preying on someone who has poor English and got directed by his legal eagle?


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    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    McCrack wrote: »
    If he pleads or is found guilty the law society will move to strike him off, theft or dishonesty on the part of a solicitor is a big no no
    Especially when caught


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    I doubt we will ever learn this solicitors name.

    Oh we will, it will be held in an open court like any other case.

    He's only a lawyer, why should he be treated differently to a plumber or a bin man?

    Not only must justice be done but it must also be seen to be done.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    Brendan Flowers
    Registered Users Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    What's with the clickbait title OP? Are you looking for a job with TheJournal.ie or something?


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    #29
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Imagine losing your career over €400.
    What a dope.


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    #30
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Brendan Flowers wrote: »
    What's with the clickbait title OP? Are you looking for a job with TheJournal.ie or something?

    My apologies Brendan, did I waste some of your time?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Some people just can't be trusted.


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