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Covid-19 Kerry
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all negative... via my friend the resident says (they are compos mentos)... but I would ask residents familys to check themselves so as not to give false hopes... and they will all have to be tested again...so...so far so good. Great news..fingers x
update..been buzy...took online break... all second tests on residents negative also. Well done all. Those eligible and choosing vaccination done before this last weekend past.. Resident/friend says no adverse reactions...not even small for themselves.... told them to buddy up (following any SD guidlines in place)previous to taking it and look out for each other on top of what the HCWs are doing.
Second injection due in 3 weeks... we even have had the conversation re ....that it is still possible to transmit/acquire the virus up until 10/11 days after second shot...
Other conversation notes over time that I have had have with all my 80+ers...
(no particular order/not a comprehensive list/a variety of this information wanted per person/only some wanted it all and not all at same time!)
what is a vaccine..
how the different vaccines work...
traditional versus experimental/new type vaccine definition and technology...
dna versus rna versus mrna
what are antibodies/t and b cells other immunity
immunity how long it lasts whats the latest data
whats an adenovirus ...lipids..PEG..nano particles..envelopes..proteins..crisper etc etc flip I really needed a glossary!
the different types of covid ones now/in future potentialy estimated delievery schedule
one failed..why?
videos/pictures/powerpoint including hard of hearing subtitles or spending extra time or audio with a slower speaker explaining for vision impaired persons/or those with limited degrees of reading writing ability.
one wanted the research papers on trial data
Adverse reactions none/mild/moderate/serious
How to deal with the above
what it potentially does/does not do...
reduce symtoms versus transmit/acquire covid issues
non/sterilising immunity....
ADE
keeping yourself safe while getting vaccinated
what if they have a needle phobia
what group they are in
what if the share household
knowing their co morbidities
data on allergys/previous adverse reactions
what/who should be present in vacination centers
afterwards waiting to make sure they are ok
what is informed consent
their right to choose
soceity responsiblity versus/and/or body self intregrity
are they still technicaly part of a clinical/drug study
their worries re grandkids who are pregnant
their worries re grandkids with special needs
their worries re adult kids with co morbidities
hesitancy versus rash decisions one way or other
transportation/imobility issues to and from..
rural versus city issues
help formulating questions they want doctor to answer
going through pre injection literature
what are their fears and hopes
their spirtual faith or religious questions
even if its a tiny chance what if I die..yes I was asked this.. be ready for it and honest in your reply..some will be afraid to ask..listen carefully
why some people might not want/get it or be excluded/not eligable
how will they care for me then?
other treatment options then
what if they are ill at the moment/have a particular disease or are on particulars meds
what if they have had covid already
what if they have tested postive recently
what the frality index is in relation to themself
pros and cons of waiting
reporting adverse reactions for the benefit of all
How to do that and check it is there
optimnal scheduling between doses
GDPR and their medical info
trial data and percentages
have non mathmathical equivalents
animnal or not experiments in early trial stages
what are the ingredients
what symtoms to keep an eye on afterwards
when to get medical help/advice
the above versus covid symtoms
are their differences in both of the above in older persons
others in their peer group all types of expriences
data on how many/what type of people of their age group in trials
a check in with them list in the few days afterwards
Do they want somebody to go with them
what precautions will that person take to be covid free
how data may change from clinical trials to studying it in real life in the community etc
Note our family are trying to instigate an aprox. 2hour/2 day/2 week protocol post each injection for keeping an eye on our seniors who have chosen to have the injection
-Serious reaction very close watch 2hours/
'post injection symptom close watch circa 2days/
-more watchful waiting relaxed but not totally...infection avoidance til optimal suposed point 2 weeks(circa 10/11 days)
We are being cautious ( previous non covid adverse reactions in other family members)and its easier to remember 2/2/2 rule that we came up with independantly.
Can be done via a mix of 'in present'... or sitting outdoors...via mobile..skype..zoom..tech... baby monitor.. other health tech..thermometer/pulse oximeter ..window waving..neighbours and even no contact 14 days before isolation and then staying over with them during the duration. Remember do it in a matter afact way with no fear mongery or over crowding and with the persons consent... some might not want it at all.
And I should say we have been sharing with them especially those in nursing homes.. since last february re vit d c (zinc after only them talking to their own doctor) sunshine..
ventillation ... stress mimimisation...mental health...isolation... being under/over OCD on cleaning or avoiding stuff..PPE.. risk assessing...pcr nasal swabbing technique. .transmission outdoor v indoor...contact tracing...ok to feel angry and other emotions... symptoms especially if any different ones in older people.. importance of covid downtime.. polticalisation.. pulse oximters..treatments
..smelling taste test..restrictions/all sides of the debate..hospitillization/death rates...recovery stats spectrum for older people..communication technology..other mass options..connecting with family and friends and even pets when physically disconnected from the above...healthy eating ...excercise.. amongst other things etc etc
All at ..whatever ability they can do or understand the above.
It has been amazing journey... brought a lot of us closer together in ways...potentially opens new lines of communication... how to agree to disagree...laughter...tears...comedy...how to talk about mortality/death and how best to spend time living life...until that point here on earth...I have learnt so much from them and are grateful for their wisdom of years...Fingers crossed we are on the home run.
If you have a compos mentos senior relative/friend talk to them explain the up and down sides of all covid related issues... then they are better able to talk/ask questions of their doctor/medical team and following on from that...they can research themselves or share explainations with fellow friends/residents who can then formulate/ask their own questions. And remember to talk about the other non covid more important stuff like love and everday things
Note...some residents/older people may not want information or only on certain aspects of covid. Try and respect their choices even if that is akward. And for some you.. who are their guardians..especially if they cannot understand the issues/choices at all..(a situation I understand).that is a heavy responsibility and my thoughts are especially with you.
Apologies for rambling this was meant to be originally a short post. I hope it helps someone even a bit
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