Formal words that the UK use but we don't

whisky_galore

It's odd that it's called sliced pan but even more odd than an unsliced one isn't called just a 'pan'.

Xertz

whisky_galore wrote: »

It's odd that it's called sliced pan but even more odd than an unsliced one isn't called just a 'pan'.

Yeah it is.
Loaf gets swapped for pan.

trashcan

65535 wrote: »

an before h
most annoying
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/is-it-a-or-an

Oh yeah. And it's creeping over here too. They aren't even consistent with it. If you're going to say "an historic.." why do yo not say "an history". ? You never see or hear that.

All that fandango

the beer revolu wrote: »

Perhaps afternoon tea is more popular in the UK but as long as Ireland has had hotels, there's been afternoon tea.

Only in the Shelbourne probably.

Mrsmum

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s and gingers were redheads. Never heard the word foxy, ever...it actually sounds like something the English would use. It’s certainly not a common irish term.

I grew up in Co Kerry and foxy was the absolute term for a redhead. Makes sense too since a fox is that carroty/ginger colour.

People would also say 'pan' for basin.

All that fandango

English expats. Irish immigrants.

iamstop

Brit would was "I was sat watching TV"

Irish would say "I was sitting watching TV"

blueser

trashcan wrote: »

Oh yeah. And it's creeping over here too. They aren't even consistent with it. If you're going to say "an historic.." why do yo not say "an history". ? You never see or hear that.

I was born and brought up in England, and I'd never say "an historic". It just doesn't sound right to my ears, whether it is right or not. I was taught that "an" is (almost) exclusively used before words beginning with a vowel. The obvious exception that springs to mind would be words beginning with a silent 'h', like hour. Any others?

Xertz

Americans pronounce EVERY leading H very strongly and then go out of their way to say "an (h)erb..." and "(h)erbs" and will correct you for saying it with a voice H.

JustAThought

JustAThought wrote: »

few words that shriek British when used for me;

Galoshes instead of Wellies

Luncheon either as a noun or verb

Using ‘shall’ instead of will

Partake

An invitation for a spot of (luncheon/golf etc)

But shall and will are very different. Shall means it must be done. Will means you have chosen to do it. You have free will

lawred2

AlphabetCards wrote: »

Delph vs crockery.

No one in the UK uses the word delph, apart from some very very middle class people.

Who uses either?

Sleety_Rain

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

A couple of pints

As in 'we'll go for a couple of pints' , they actually mean 2 pints not a heap

They don’t really have pubs though.

whisky_galore

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They don’t really have pubs though.

Ah the typical Irish snobbishness about English pubs coming out.
I've been in both sh1t Irish pubs and great English ones and vice versa.

Sunny Disposition

They’re much more formal, young people expected to address their elders as Mrs and Mr. Never really got used to the formality you’d experience fairly often there, never saw the point of it.
In a lot of cases I think they liked Paddy because we were less formal.

ActingDanClark

Outwith. As in the taxis are ' outwith' the train station

whisky_galore

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

They’re much more formal, young people expected to address their elders as Mrs and Mr. Never really got used to the formality you’d experience fairly often there, never saw the point of it.
In a lot of cases I think they liked Paddy because we were less formal.

Which period drama was this?

Floody Boreland

Renno, Perjo

Sheep Shagger

Esquire (or Esq) in a title.

Electric Sheep

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But shall and will are very different. Shall means it must be done. Will means you have chosen to do it. You have free will

This flies right over the heads of Irish people who think shall is just the posh will.

the beer revolu

My English wife has no problem understanding "to lodge a cheque" and insists that it's just how she always would have said it.

AlphabetCards

Electric Sheep wrote: »

**** for describing themselves accurately? Perhaps you are the wanker.

Moving to the UK from Ireland is not exactly migration. UK and Ireland allow their citizens to work and travel freely and seamlessly within each others borders - so much so that you are not even ID'd if you travel by ferry between UK/IRE. Claiming you are an 'immigrant' in that situation is odd.

blinding

There used to be such a thing as a Cock Lodger when Ladies of a certain age ran boarding houses if thats any reason for the confusion ! !

Electric Sheep

AlphabetCards wrote: »

Moving to the UK from Ireland is not exactly migration. UK and Ireland allow their citizens to work and travel freely and seamlessly within each others borders - so much so that you are not even ID'd if you travel by ferry between UK/IRE. Claiming you are an 'immigrant' in that situation is odd.

Keep telling yourself that.

the beer revolu

Immigrant :

noun
noun: immigrant; plural noun: immigrants
a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
"they found it difficult to expel illegal immigrants"

Dr Devious

A lot of the English seem to feel they are above emigration, always called or described as an “ex pat” even though they have no intention of returning home to “Blighty”.

Electric Sheep

Electric Sheep wrote: »

This flies right over the heads of Irish people who think shall is just the posh will.

It’s a bit like “can” and “may”, which was explained to me as a seven year old at school. A bit of light corporal punishment helped seal the message..

Me (with hand up in class): “Please sir, can I go to the toilet?”

Teacher: “Yes. Of course”

I leave the room, have a pee, and return to my seat

Teacher: “Where have you been?”

Me (somewhat quizzically): “Er, to the toilet, sir”

Teacher: “And who gave you permission?”

Me (now perplexed and heading towards panic): “You did, sir”

Teacher: “No, I did not. You said, ‘Can I go the toilet”, to which I replied, ‘Yes’, because anyone can go to the toilet, because they are physically able to do it. But not everyone may go to the toilet, without asking permission first. Take this note to the Headmaster.”

Me: (Reaching for exercise book to shove down the back of trousers): “Gulp”

Never forgotten the difference.....

Sunny Disposition

whisky_galore wrote: »

Which period drama was this?

It’s a while ago for sure! Fifty two years since I went over and back more than 30.

lawred2

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s a bit like “can” and “may”, which was explained to me as a seven year old at school. A bit of light corporal punishment helped seal the message..

Me (with hand up in class): “Please sir, can I go to the toilet?”

Teacher: “Yes. Of course”

I leave the room, have a pee, and return to my seat

Teacher: “Where have you been?”

Me (somewhat quizzically): “Er, to the toilet, sir”

Teacher: “And who gave you permission?”

Me (now perplexed and heading towards panic): “You did, sir”

Teacher: “No, I did not. You said, ‘Can I go the toilet”, to which I replied, ‘Yes’, because anyone can go to the toilet, because they are physically able to do it. But not everyone may go to the toilet, without asking permission first. Take this note to the Headmaster.”

Me: (Reaching for exercise book to shove down the back of trousers): “Gulp”

Never forgotten the difference.....

uurgh what a knob of a teacher

whisky_galore

Dr Devious wrote: »

A lot of the English seem to feel they are above emigration, always called or described as an “ex pat” even though they have no intention of returning home to “Blighty”.

Irish don't use the word because they're not heading off on the steamer to Americay with a cardboard suitcase.

blinding

lawred2 wrote: »

uurgh what a knob of a teacher

Funnily enough I remember some teacher using the same situation to explain similar , without the trip to the headmaster . National School and he was the headmaster. He used the situation to explain the carry on. No violence ensued that time anyway ! ! !

Perhaps its Teacher Training School ; Lesson 1.

AlphabetCards

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Keep telling yourself that.

I will, as I would never have the nerve to refer to myself as an immigrant for taking a £30, 30 minute flight to a partner nation, when people who have to leave their lives behind due to war, famine and persecution die every day as they cross deserts and seas to migrate. That is real migration, not moving to a first world country from a first world country.

kirkfx

cavemeister wrote: »

In the UK, they don't use the word ATM. If they are getting money out, they get it from a "Cashpoint"

Eww

blinding

AlphabetCards wrote: »

I will, as I would never have the nerve to refer to myself as an immigrant for taking a £30, 30 minute flight to a partner nation, when people who have to leave their lives behind due to war, famine and persecution die every day as they cross deserts and seas to migrate. That is real migration, not moving to a first world country from a first world country.

Britain has been no partner to the Republic of Ireland.

Since the 26 Counties left the Uk it can be argued that for most of the time Britain made life as hard as it could for the Republic of Ireland. Certainly up to 1990 just to put a date on it.

lawred2

blinding wrote: »

Britain has been no partner to the Republic of Ireland.

Since the 26 Counties left the Uk it can be argued that for most of the time Britain made life as hard as it could for the Republic of Ireland. Certainly up to 1990 just to put a date on it.

Duration of New Labour apart - the UK has not been a friend of Ireland

the beer revolu

AlphabetCards wrote: »

I will, as I would never have the nerve to refer to myself as an immigrant for taking a £30, 30 minute flight to a partner nation, when people who have to leave their lives behind due to war, famine and persecution die every day as they cross deserts and seas to migrate. That is real migration, not moving to a first world country from a first world country.

Love how you get to decide the meaning of a word, regardless of what the word actually means to the rest of us!

whisky_galore

Shadow Minister, sounds like a Marvel villain.

the purple tin

Head teacher instead of headmaster/mistress or principal.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s a bit like “can” and “may”, which was explained to me as a seven year old at school. A bit of light corporal punishment helped seal the message..

Me (with hand up in class): “Please sir, can I go to the toilet?”

Teacher: “Yes. Of course”

I leave the room, have a pee, and return to my seat

Teacher: “Where have you been?”

Me (somewhat quizzically): “Er, to the toilet, sir”

Teacher: “And who gave you permission?”

Me (now perplexed and heading towards panic): “You did, sir”

Teacher: “No, I did not. You said, ‘Can I go the toilet”, to which I replied, ‘Yes’, because anyone can go to the toilet, because they are physically able to do it. But not everyone may go to the toilet, without asking permission first. Take this note to the Headmaster.”

Me: (Reaching for exercise book to shove down the back of trousers): “Gulp”

Never forgotten the difference.....

It's perfectly valid to use can to express permission as well as ability. Teachers who do this are idiots.

blinding

Chancellor of the Exchequer ; Some FFG-er; Minister of Finance

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Deleted User wrote: »

But shall and will are very different. Shall means it must be done. Will means you have chosen to do it. You have free will

You can also say "It will be done."

You can say "I shall do it."

Will does originate from the Germanic root meaning to want to do something, but it has largely lost that connotation over the centuries. Will and shall don't really have a difference except in the minds of pseudo-linguist English teachers.

Electric Sheep

Dr Devious wrote: »

A lot of the English seem to feel they are above emigration, always called or described as an “ex pat” even though they have no intention of returning home to “Blighty”.

Judging by this thread, it seems some Irish feel the same way.

El_Duderino 09

Xertz wrote: »

Americans pronounce EVERY leading H very strongly and then go out of their way to say "an (h)erb..." and "(h)erbs" and will correct you for saying it with a voice H.

Do they pronoun the H in honest? I don’t think so.

Also an interesting one is that Irish people say the letter H with a ‘h’ sound at the start hay ‘hay-che’. The English and Americans are more likely to use proper pronunciation which is more like ‘ache’ with an “ay” sound at the start ay-che

El_Duderino 09

blinding wrote: »

Chancellor of the Exchequer ; Some FFG-er; Minister of Finance

To be fair, Chancellor of the Exchequer is a position that has been in use since 1316 under King Edward the second. That's pretty cool.

El_Duderino 09

AlphabetCards wrote: »

I will, as I would never have the nerve to refer to myself as an immigrant for taking a £30, 30 minute flight to a partner nation, when people who have to leave their lives behind due to war, famine and persecution die every day as they cross deserts and seas to migrate. That is real migration, not moving to a first world country from a first world country.

Both the person who moved to England or America by choice and those who left under duress, are emigrants. The cheapness of the journey home is irrelevant.

Hardship is not contained within the word emigrant. It just means a person who leaves their own country to settle in another country.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Chancellor is a funny one that causes a lot of confusion. In the UK, it usually refers to the Chancellor of the Exchequer (Minister of Finance). In Germany, and I think Austria, it's basically the Prime Minister. In Spanish speaking countries, it's the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Nigel Fairservice

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Chancellor is a funny one that causes a lot of confusion. In the UK, it usually refers to the Chancellor of the Exchequer (Minister of Finance). In Germany, and I think Austria, it's basically the Prime Minister. In Spanish speaking countries, it's the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

You'd see it a lot in the UK in reference to university presidents as well.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

It's perfectly valid to use can to express permission as well as ability. Teachers who do this are idiots.

Well, it was sixty years ago. Grammar and usage change. There are no hard and fast rules.

He was far from an idiot, by the way

lalababa

"Fack euufh yaa cant".....no idea what it meansðŸ˜

blinding

I’ll have you mate....And it’s not a Mating Proposal ! !

citytillidie

Londonde

No can’t complete that , the city up North. Derry the brits have another name for it