Renault 19s - esp. phase 1 and TSE

RobAMerc · 25-08-2020 9:20am

I may have posted these before - apologies if I did.

This is a pic of my phase 1 16v - I brought in from Wales in 95 ( I think )

Cracking car. It was a replacement for my 5GT Turbo and was a real step up in many respects. One thing that struck me was the speeds I was travelling at had to be stepped up considerably in the 19 to get the same thrill as I did in the 5 at much lower speeds.
I had a huge tank slapper in it while showing off to my girlfriend on our way back from eehmm "christening" the new car, while really not travelling that fast ( wet ). It broke fast and hard with very little warning but I caught it. I put that down to odd rear tyres which I sorted, but I also spun it in Galway on a really wet day once, manage to hit nothing though.

:o

I'd have either of these back in a heart beat now !

kev1.3s · 25-08-2020 12:46pm

Love that 16v, do tmyou know where it is now?

unkel · 25-08-2020 3:16pm

Oh that R5! Gorgeous little number!

RobAMerc · 25-08-2020 9:36pm

I sold that R5 to a chap in Carlow I think with 88k miles on it. I saw it a few years later in Rathmines - with 65k miles on it !

Sold the 19 to a chap from Dublin. Did the handover at the Phoenix park motor races back in the day. No idea where the it ended up.

ba_barabus · 26-03-2021 10:36pm

BrianD3 wrote: »

The highest spec phase 1 1.4 was the TSE, I always thought these were very nice especially as a Chamade and in a nice metallic. They had the all important yellow foglights, velour armchairs, electric sunroof, dinky 13 inch Zenith alloys :cool:. I wonder do any survive.

Well, at least 1 5 door TSE in the launch colour survives. I'm making my mind up currently if it should be my next restoration project.

rugbyman · 30-03-2021 9:04pm

I recently saw a Renault 19 lying up, complete car, Silver, N.I. reg
Anyone want it ,I can go ask price

regards

ba_barabus · 31-03-2021 8:21am

I'd love the radio!

Don't need the rest. I've passed on the early TSE. I've already gone down the route of a restoration on one.

kaizersoze · 31-03-2021 5:32pm

rugbyman wrote: »

I recently saw a Renault 19 lying up, complete car, Silver, N.I. reg
Anyone want it ,I can go ask price

regards

Me interested.........
Year, model?

rugbyman · 02-04-2021 8:56pm

Kaiser. just read this now. will go and ask. Its in Dundalk

regards

BrianD3 · 23-04-2021 2:27pm

I was just looking at howmanyleft,co.uk and checked the R19, R21 and R25 numbers. The decline in numbers seems to have slowed dramatically with numbers increasing slightly if anything. Maybe some pre SORN introduction cars have been uncovered. Have they come out of the banger phase/started to be recognised as "classics".

Or maybe people (temporarily) stopped scrapping their cars due to the pandemic

19
Q2 199 taxed, 855 SORN
Q3 199 taxed, 860 SORN

21
Q2 69 taxed, 438 SORN
Q3 65 taxed, 449 SORN

25
Q2 47 taxed, 217 SORN
Q3 51 taxed, 216 SORN

They're reproducing!

Silvera · 27-04-2021 10:56pm

I worked for a Renault specialist in the late 1980's / early 1990's when the R19 was launched. We did a lot of work for Renault Distributors Irl fitting boot spoilers on Supervans, Chamades, etc (plus commercial repaints of R5 vans, Extras, Traffics and Master vans in An Post and Telecom Eireann livery)

I liked the Supervans, they were lively enough to drive and very comfortable. If given the choice I would go for a Supervan or a R19 Turbo.

I actually have a new handbook set for a Chamade somewhere

johnf2020 · 01-06-2021 3:32pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

1989 Renault 19 TR with 22000 genuine miles...aparently.
Looks fairly spotless. Strong money though.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/renault-19-tr-22-000-genuine-miles/25668907

Hi Guys,

Havn't been around these parts in a while. That 19TR is indeed mine. I did sell it last year as per the Dondeal ad, but the opportunity presented itself to buy it back a few weeks ago which I did. Its now sports the collosal mileage of 22780 miles which is indeed genuine. Glad to see the 19s are getting noticed . I did indeed ad the Zenith 14" alloys which are a Boutique accessory aswell as standard fitment on certain models in certain markets. The 3 spoke steering wheel is also a Boutique accessory(not leather) The bumpers are the original but the chrome inserts were available seperately which I also fitted. I feel the upgrades are subtle without taking away from the car and certainly give it a lift.

kaizersoze · 01-06-2021 11:15pm

johnf2020 wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Havn't been around these parts in a while. That 19TR is indeed mine. I did sell it last year as per the Dondeal ad, but the opportunity presented itself to buy it back a few weeks ago which I did. Its now sports the collosal mileage of 22780 miles which is indeed genuine. Glad to see the 19s are getting noticed . I did indeed ad the Zenith 14" alloys which are a Boutique accessory aswell as standard fitment on certain models in certain markets. The 3 spoke steering wheel is also a Boutique accessory(not leather) The bumpers are the original but the chrome inserts were available seperately which I also fitted. I feel the upgrades are subtle without taking away from the car and certainly give it a lift.

She's a peach. Well done for getting it back and well done on the upgrades. Nice and subtle as you say. They're the upgrades I like to do.
If you're moving it on again keep me in mind.

johnf2020 · 03-06-2021 12:56pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

She's a peach. Well done for getting it back and well done on the upgrades. Nice and subtle as you say. They're the upgrades I like to do.
If you're moving it on again keep me in mind.

I certainly will but Renaults in this condition are getting increasingly hard to find especially now that the UK market is effectively gone so I'll be holding onto this one unless I either go LHD from Europe or in the unlikely event that something turns up here.

BrianD3 · 03-06-2021 3:10pm

Didn't you have a peachy TSE in the same colour a while ago? Still have it or sold on?

If anyone is looking to buy a classic Renault in Ireland, one of the first things to look for is, does it have a KK reg

Probably means it's a good one!

johnf2020 · 03-06-2021 4:12pm

BrianD3 wrote: »

Didn't you have a peachy TSE in the same colour a while ago? Still have it or sold on?

If anyone is looking to buy a classic Renault in Ireland, one of the first things to look for is, does it have a KK reg Probably means it's a good one!

Indeed I did:D......it went to the depths of Donegal and hasnt been seen since:rolleyes:

rugbyman · 05-06-2021 7:30pm

Kaisersoze, sorry for delay
Went to this farm today.no one there so did not want to hang about. On the boot just says renault 19. No particular model details. The window code might yield the age. N.i. reg

rugbyman · 05-06-2021 7:31pm

Another

rugbyman · 05-06-2021 7:32pm

Again

rugbyman · 05-06-2021 7:35pm

Seats

rugbyman · 05-06-2021 7:36pm

Seats

ba_barabus · 05-06-2021 8:36pm

Phase 1 GTS I'd wager

rugbyman · 05-06-2021 8:59pm

Does that make it interesting?ba barabus

rugbyman · 05-06-2021 9:01pm

Does that make it interesting?ba barabus

ba_barabus · 05-06-2021 9:45pm

rugbyman wrote: »

Does that make it interesting?ba barabus

Only for people who like 19s, so that me, Tipp John and Kilkenny John

kaizersoze · 05-06-2021 11:22pm

rugbyman wrote: »

Kaisersoze, sorry for delay
Went to this farm today.no one there so did not want to hang about. On the boot just says renault 19. No particular model details. The window code might yield the age. N.i. reg

No problem at all and thanks for going to the trouble. Pity to see it there rotting away.

rugbyman · 06-06-2021 8:51am

kaizersoze wrote: »

No problem at all and thanks for going to the trouble. Pity to see it there rotting away.

If its for sale,and is small money, do you want it?

rugbyman · 20-07-2021 4:39pm

That car, i pictured, is originally southern reg, 1989.

It can be bought for 300 /500 euro

Kaiser, you were first to ask.

BrianD3 · 21-08-2021 6:59am

Might have been posted already but I just saw this great video on the R19 from Nostalgia Nerd on YT. Over 50 minutes long and it isn't even a car channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFRsc0ZtYho

David09 · 21-08-2021 6:26pm

Excellent thread! I too had a soft spot for the 19, 21 and first series Lagunas.

The 19 were an excellent car, so well equipped compared to the competition. I had one, a 91 phase 1 but only for a short time.

Another strong memory of the 19 was from when I was an apprentice doing a head gasket on a 1.4 energy engine. I was only used to fords and didn't know any better about turning the crankshaft with the head removed. Eeek.... :)😝

hamburg · 30-09-2021 9:32pm

i seem to remember the army had black renault 19 chamades?? in the early 90's. they used them as staff cars.

RandomViewer · 03-10-2021 12:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117786023#Comment_117786023

21 was so badly built and the overheating issues made them nearly unsellable, wasn't really Renaults fault, the coolant they used in the factory was corrosive after a few years

BrianD3 · 03-10-2021 2:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117970405#Comment_117970405

IIRC the 19 was also known for cooling system issues. Heater matrix etc and there is a metal pipe near the exhaust manifold which would corrode through and cause a major leak. The Megane Mk1 seemed to be much better in terms of cooling despite being very similar to the 19. I think the feed to the header tank works differently on the Megane?

RandomViewer · 03-10-2021 5:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117970842#Comment_117970842

Any steel pipework on the 19/21 corroded, there were little frostplugs behind the manifold that used to rust through, diesel 19 also had a rubber hose that sat below the oil filter and got sodden every oil change, later Megane used hard plastic

dernal · 08-12-2021 7:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117355504#Comment_117355504

You can add me to that list haha. I had the amazing opportunity to buy back my first car during the summer. Its a Phase 2 19 supervan. Its in rough nick as I had to pull it from a bed of nettles at the back of a shed. I finally got time to pull it into the shed to start the restoration. I see ba_barabus is doing a restoration too. What are parts like to source? I have a fairly comprehensive list of all comsumeables and some bodywork i need. Any help appreciated guys.

ba_barabus · 09-12-2021 12:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118292238#Comment_118292238

I sold mine once I was finished but I have a few parts in the attic. Nothing comprehensive but I'll take a look and let you know. Definitely have a set of headlights in good condition. I've a full set of genuine hubcaps too and a Renault radio. Where are you based?

dernal · 12-12-2021 3:21pm

I'm in Galway. I am ok for headlights but I will let you know. Did you find any good websites or companies carrying parts for the ph2 19?

18Rharmo · 21-03-2023 7:29pm

I know I'm a bit late for a reply (2 years late) but I have recently bought a Renault 19 1.9 TD RT 5 door hatchback from a man in the North and VRT'd it the other day. It is a brilliant car but missing a radio. Hardly know anywhere to get one. It's a 1993 so ph2

Renault 19s - esp. phase 1 and TSE

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