Nursing Homes Overstating Death Numbers?

WeeCuppaCha

I’ve allowed myself to be hit with the conspiracy stick. Ok, maybe not hit; lightly stroked.

A Facebook friend (?), a militant anti vaxxing, avacado loving, David Icke worshipping type. I know, I know...

Anyhoo, this person has had ‘reports’ that some people’s grannies/granddads died from natural causes in their nursing homes in recent days, but were reported as having died from Covid. Apparently these people had zero symptoms of Covid19. Therefore, we, the Sheeple, must now wake up and see that it’s all a scam. Etc, etc.

Any thoughts/views/anecdotes?

Kerry25x

What reason would they have?

WeeCuppaCha

Kerry25x wrote: »

What reason would they have?

In order to have a sufficient death toll that justifies the actions we took, namely lockdown.

Tom Mann Centuria

WeeCuppaCha wrote: »

In order to have a sufficient death toll that justifies the actions we took, namely lockdown.

And private nursing homes would give a fcuk about justifying the lockdown because?

biko

There is enough justification for the lockdown without trying to massage numbers.

Your friend is blowing smoke.


Also, who would
A) be able to order this to happen?
benefit from it?

Illuminati?

Tokyo

Moving to Conspiracy Theories forum. Please note that the local charter now applies.

Charles Babbage

Everyone who dies of Covid19 dies of natural causes, i.e. their heart stops, they can't breathe etc.
They are going to test everyone in homes next week which will clarify things and provide data to argue against pointless conspiracies on Facebook, not that these people will take any account of actual data.

WeeCuppaCha

biko wrote: »

There is enough justification for the lockdown without trying to massage numbers.

Your friend is blowing smoke.


Also, who would
A) be able to order this to happen?
benefit from it?

Illuminati?

Bill Gates? **** knows. But with every like this tripe gets, my despair also rises. People believe it.

killbillvol2

WeeCuppaCha wrote: »

Bill Gates? **** knows. But with every like this tripe gets, my despair also rises. People believe it.

And you repeat it. You're part of the problem.

WeeCuppaCha

killbillvol2 wrote: »

And you repeat it. You're part of the problem.

Is discussing something, which already has fair mileage on social media, an issue now?

anewme

The only advice is to stop engaging with fools pedalling conspiracy theories which add absolutely no value and use your own time and energy more positively.

Each of those deaths is a person, not a number to be put in a box to suit idiots making up Facebook posts or social media.

There is a poem written by an Irish lady about the death of her sister in a nursing home in London entitled "My sister is not a stastic".

You should read that and reflect a moment to remember all of the people in the nursing home and their families.

killbillvol2

WeeCuppaCha wrote: »

Is discussing something, which already has fair mileage on social media, an issue now?

What part of what I said did you not understand?

who what when

I have sympathy for the doctors who must decide on the cause of death, particularly for patients who have several serious underlying conditions, any one of which would eventually lead to death.

Theres no doubt that many people who contracted covid were going to die anyway and the virus simply sped things along a bit. Take for example a terminal cancer patient who may have clung on for an extra month or two. They contract covid 19, they dont have a chance of beating it with their non-existent immune system, and it kills them. What do you put that down as? The virus killed them but it didn't really.

I've no doubt theres many, many cases like this and no headline death number is ever going to tell the true story.

PowerToWait

This 'narrative' is gaining ground though. The idea that the death toll is being artificially inflated is definitely something I'm seeing more of, certainly in the UK and USA, I hadn't realised it had taken off here also.

I think like a lot of CT stuff, people look for a more comforting 'truth', refusing to believe that things could actually be so bad.

PowerToWait

who what when wrote: »

Theres no doubt that many people who contracted covid were going to die anyway and the virus simply sped things along a bit.

There is hardly any doubt that people who die from Covid19 would eventually die anyway. :rolleyes:

Life, as they say, is terminal.