Hardware stores CAN Open

Calahonda52

2018na wrote: »

I am delighted that some good has come from the current situation for you. In fairness you are really helpful whenever you can be in your area of expertise.

The above is addressed to Sleeper12 and its worth repeating: the key piece is that he sticks to the knitting and does not wander/wonder off into other areas that are outside his skill sets, which are extensive.

A man's GOT to know his limitations. This is a Triton XYZ 90i redux, the most powerful shower in the world, and it could blow your head clean off.

obi604

Any idea when Argos will open?

Sleeper12

obi604 wrote: »

Any idea when Argos will open?

I'm guessing they don't fall under essential so their stores can't open in the coming phase. I see them classed as regular retail outlets like clothes shops rather than hardwares & building supplies. That's my guess anyway

okidoki987

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'm guessing they don't fall under essential so their stores can't open in the coming phase. I see them classed as regular retail outlets like clothes shops rather than hardwares & building supplies. That's my guess anyway

They are delivering certain goods like furniture, Kitchen stuff, DIY, Nursery, kids, personal care and fitness & technology and gaming according to the website but nothing about reopening again.

GinSoaked

Another business open. I needed so electrical bits today and checked the local Electrical Wholesaler and their counter was open for business.

obi604

I wonder will hardware stores open on the 18th May

the_pen_turner

obi604 wrote: »

I wonder will hardware stores open on the 18th May

From what I see they are all half open.

obi604

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'm guessing they don't fall under essential so their stores can't open in the coming phase. I see them classed as regular retail outlets like clothes shops rather than hardwares & building supplies. That's my guess anyway

are these type stores allowed to operate in anyways om the 18th May?

Lumen

If only there was some kind of roadmap published on a sort of a government website.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/#shops-and-other-commercial-businesses

Easing the COVID-19 restrictions on 18 May (Phase 1)
...
Shops that are primarily outdoor (for example: garden centres, hardware stores, farmers' markets) can re-open so long as social distancing measures can be put in place

obi604

Lumen wrote: »

If only there was some kind of roadmap published on a sort of a government website.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/#shops-and-other-commercial-businesses

still not sure if it applies to Argos

Lumen

obi604 wrote: »

still not sure if it applies to Argos

Has anyone ever been this keen to visit Argos?

Chiorino

obi604 wrote: »

still not sure if it applies to Argos

The likes of Argos unlikely to open until phase 3.

obi604

Lumen wrote: »

Has anyone ever been this keen to visit Argos?

hands up, this is what the lock-down is doing to me

DavyD_83

It's B&Q I'm waiting for...

obi604

DavyD_83 wrote: »

It's B&Q I'm waiting for...

true


and why dont woodies even allow you to simply search for items on their website, just to have an aul gander. everything is locked down

bladespin

Chiorino wrote: »

The likes of Argos unlikely to open until phase 3.

Really find that ironic considering they really were the pioneers of click and collect.

Darc19

"homeware" stores, "diy" stores and "garden centre's" can open from 18th.

These are official classifications.

It's not "essential" retail but the start of regular retail.

obi604

Darc19 wrote: »

"homeware" stores, "diy" stores and "garden centre's" can open from 18th.

These are official classifications.

It's not "essential" retail but the start of regular retail.

What about Argos

Steer55

the_pen_turner wrote: »

From what I see they are all half open.

Got huge delivery of timber paving and patio slabs from my local DIY store two weeks ago. Really enjoying being outside building my new shed and patio in the warm sunshine

Steer55

obi604 wrote: »

What about Argos

I wonder Will they ever open again, Amazon has taken alot of their business.

obi604

Steer55 wrote: »

I wonder Will they ever open again, Amazon has taken alot of their business.

True. You would imagine they would though.

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

true


and why dont woodies even allow you to simply search for items on their website, just to have an aul gander. everything is locked down

Anyone know why woodies are doing this?

All other websites seem ‘open’

listermint

obi604 wrote: »

Anyone know why woodies are doing this?

All other websites seem ‘open’

Their CMS may only allow them to do certain things on the website. They may not have in house developers.

Sleeper12

obi604 wrote: »

true


and why dont woodies even allow you to simply search for items on their website, just to have an aul gander. everything is locked down

Many sites can't cope with the amount of people using them during the shutdown. It makes the site smoother if you can get rid of the tire kickers for the moment. Some sites are so busy that you enter a queue to enter the site. A lot of sites are hiding from the webpage goods that they aren't allowed to sell

obi604

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Many sites can't cope with the amount of people using them during the shutdown. It makes the site smoother if you can get rid of the tire kickers for the moment. Some sites are so busy that you enter a queue to enter the site. A lot of sites are hiding from the webpage goods that they aren't allowed to sell

fair enough, I don't get the last line though

bladespin

Sleeper12 wrote: »

A lot of sites are hiding from the webpage goods that they aren't allowed to sell

What goods aren't they allowed sell??? News to me, didn't think there was a prohibition.

tom1ie

bladespin wrote: »

What goods aren't they allowed sell??? News to me, didn't think there was a prohibition.

Essential items only?
E.g. dunne’s can’t sell clothes from their drapery but can sell food from food department.

Kmcg46

Argos is opening on monday for click & collect

obi604

Kmcg46 wrote: »

Argos is opening on monday for click & collect

Source?

I dont see it on the argos.ie website

Kmcg46

My other half works for Argos

LFC Murphy

Any news on B&Q opening

obi604

Kmcg46 wrote: »

My other half works for Argos

do you know if its all Argos stores or just a select few?

Kmcg46

As far as i know not all stores are opening, i will check and get back to you

obi604

Kmcg46 wrote: »

As far as i know not all stores are opening, i will check and get back to you

Nice one

bladespin

tom1ie wrote: »

Essential items only?
E.g. dunne’s can’t sell clothes from their drapery but can sell food from food department.

Pretty sure that's Dunne's own choice, no limits on items that can be sold from shops that qualify as essential (though I doubt a separate drapery would qualify unless under the same roof) from anything I've seen - paint, clothes, birthday cards and toys etc all freely available.

okidoki987

bladespin wrote: »

Pretty sure that's Dunne's own choice, no limits on items that can be sold from shops that qualify as essential (though I doubt a separate drapery would qualify unless under the same roof) from anything I've seen - paint, clothes, birthday cards and toys etc all freely available.

Dunnes Stores in the Beacon in Sandyford Industrial Estate were selling clothes this morning upstairs (groceries downstairs).

Sleeper12

obi604 wrote: »

fair enough, I don't get the last line though

bladespin wrote: »

What goods aren't they allowed sell??? News to me, didn't think there was a prohibition.

Woodies dont have an online store as such. Their goods don't come from a central depo. Goods ordered online come from inside their retail outlets. I have often ordered hundreds of showers from Woodies & when delivered to me the delivery guy would tell me that he had to collect them from three separate branches. Screwfix are in the same boat. Because of this they are classed as Hardwares. Local retail outlets rather than an online store & under the restrictions can only deliver essential goods. Not everything they sell is essential. This is why many goods were hidden from both the Woodies & Screwfix websites.



In fairness to both companies they stuck to the rules as they saw them. Plenty of others totally ignored the regulations. Small hardware shops argued that they sold bird food so were allowed open the same as pet shops. A dog groomers in a petshop in Coolock never closed at all. They argued that they are part of the pet shop & continued to operate. They are booked solid right into July.

Dunnes has jumped the gun & started selling clothes even though they aren't allowed to till monday.

Sleeper12

okidoki987 wrote: »

Dunnes Stores in the Beacon in Sandyford Industrial Estate were selling clothes this morning upstairs (groceries downstairs).

This was on covered on Liveline yesterday I believe. HSE has had hundreds of reported breaches of regulations since March but hasn't investigated a single case to date. There was no real effort to enforce the regulations imo

obi604

Kmcg46 wrote: »

Argos is opening on monday for click & collect

Is Argos still opening on Monday?

bladespin

Sleeper12 wrote: »

In fairness to both companies they stuck to the rules as they saw them. Plenty of others totally ignored the regulations. Small hardware shops argued that they sold bird food so were allowed open the same as pet shops. A dog groomers in a petshop in Coolock never closed at all. They argued that they are part of the pet shop & continued to operate. They are booked solid right into July.

Dunnes has jumped the gun & started selling clothes even though they aren't allowed to till monday.

The minister for enterprise was quite clear on this yesterday, not a breach as far as govt were concerned as long as the main function of the shop was essential.

Sleeper12

bladespin wrote:

The minister for enterprise was quite clear on this yesterday, not a breach as far as govt were concerned as long as the main function of the shop was essential.

Yes. From Monday. All hardwares should be shut until Monday.

EDIT: If you read the whole thread you'll see that The minister for enterprise hasn't a clue what she's saying at the best of times. It was her that started all of this confusion weeks ago. It was clarified that hardwares were essential & did sell essential goods BUT they could only do so by delivery. This is what she eventually said to clarify things.

bladespin

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Yes. From Monday. All hardwares should be shut until Monday.

She mentioned grocery stores that also sell other goods currently (including hardware and homewares) and that this was acceptable.

Edit. Also many hardwares were allowed open during restrictions as they support agricultural needs.

Sleeper12

bladespin wrote:

Edit. Also many hardwares were allowed open during restrictions as they support agricultural needs.

You missed the point. Hardwares were only allowed to deliver. They weren't allowed to open a retail outlet. You couldn't go more than a mile or so in Dublin without finding little hardware stores open. The only animal feed they sold was bird food.

There were hundreds of complaints about business breaking the regulations BUT not a single one was investigated. The government didn't enforce the regulations on businesses

obi604

anyone know anything about Argos?

they have a thermometer im after that is gone everywhere else. and they might on the off chance have it - if they open tomorrow.

but not sure if they are open or not.

Cantona's Collars

obi604 wrote: »

anyone know anything about Argos?

they have a thermometer im after that is gone everywhere else. and they might on the off chance have it - if they open tomorrow.

but not sure if they are open or not.

Someone on another thread said it was as their OH works for them. Reserve the item just in case.

Seve OB

where i am all hardware shops i know of were closed, but there were some open for phone orders and doing delivery only. last week i passed through upper rathmines and saw nice queue forming outside a small hardware shop and i was very surprised and no idea how they were getting away with being open

obi604 wrote: »

true


and why dont woodies even allow you to simply search for items on their website, just to have an aul gander. everything is locked down

Woodies website now open for business.... well, for browsing at least

tom1ie wrote: »

Essential items only?
E.g. dunne’s can’t sell clothes from their drapery but can sell food from food department.

Dunnes have been selling clothes from day one of the lockdown. I was in Cornelscourt early on and the queue for groceries weaved through the homewares and clothes with signs up to say that that you could pick whatever you wanted and bring to any till. Dunner in the Blanch moved 5 or six racks of clothing down to the bread / bakery section weeks ago.

Kmcg46

Click & collect only in Argos, no touch screens, no books

obi604

Kmcg46 wrote: »

Click & collect only in Argos

so the stores will actually be open

Lumen

Went to Chadwicks this morning. It was surprisingly quiet. Bit of a queue for the cash desk, maybe 4 people.

The aisles are a bit squeezy. I was wearing a mask, as were maybe 1/3 of the other customers. Slightly annoying that there isn't 100% mask wearing, since 100% of the customers own them.

The joy of being able to pick things up!

bladespin

Lumen wrote: »

Went to Chadwicks this morning. It was surprisingly quiet. Bit of a queue for the cash desk, maybe 4 people.

The aisles are a bit squeezy. I was wearing a mask, as were maybe 1/3 of the other customers. Slightly annoying that there isn't 100% mask wearing, since 100% of the customers own them.

The joy of being able to pick things up!

They were open last week, I'd say the rush was then.