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School not using Video Conferencing but lashing out the homework

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    #392
    tscul32
    Registered Users Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭tscul32


    slipperyox wrote: »
    bit surreal, teachers talking on web cams to teenagers sitting on their beds in pajamas....

    Our secondary school sent a new online learning policy which included that students must be in appropriate attire. My lad was not happy that he had to get dressed - lol.

    As for the idea of sticking to the school timetable, that's grand for 1 child or if they're similar ages. I have one in 2nd class, 6th class (different schools - junior and senior) and 2nd year. So the timetables are all different, break times are different and motivation is different, would be a nightmare to try and manage that at home. My 2nd year is getting a full day online, not necessarily video classes but there is a teacher on MS Teams with them for each class, assigning work and answering questions. My 6th class has a list of tasks for each day but he has it done in under an hour. I have him doing lots of online maths, puzzles, etc. to keep him going as most of the school assigned work is revision. My guys are quite bright and the 2nd class can do most of the revision maths that the 6th class one is getting, so he's finding it quite boring. It's easier for the 2nd class, he's still at that 'school is great' stage so happy to work away at the work assigned by school and I can give him 3rd or 4th class maths from Twinkl when he's bored - that's harder for 6th class without teaching new concepts, which I don't want to do.


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    #393
    Neyite
    Administrators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Neyite


    teachinggal123 wrote: »
    I am a teacher. But I'm not naming myself or my school on a public forum.

    I can attest "that kind of behaviour" is definitely being tolerated in many schools.

    Can I ask you a question? What can the principal do if a teacher says they are not able to work because of:
    *no laptop
    *poor broadband
    *their contact is for school contact only (not online)
    *home environment not suitable
    *no skills or training in online teaching
    *the multiple other excuses put forward by teachers on this thread

    What exactly can the principal do? Serious question. TUI/ASTI will be up the principals ass if he/she does anything to sanction the teacher ... that is the answer.

    All this is going on in my school - and I'm sure other school's around the country - right now. And the teachers on here know this. A bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss.
    .

    In the private sector it's fairly simple - if you can continue to work from home, you do so. If you can't then your employer lays you off and you can contact Social Welfare for the €350 per week CoviDole.

    So even though I'm an area with sh!t broad band, feck all mobile signal, and a portion of my work is office based and can't be transferred online I'm trying a myriad of ways that I can remain working for my employer so I can continue to get paid. I've a bored kid that we need to tag team to entertain plus two cocooning households as well as my own to shop for as well as clocking in for 40hrs. I'll make it work, I've no choice.

    It'll never happen, but if the teachers who are currently radio silent were suddenly faced with either working from home or signing on there would be a bit more enthusiasm for tech solutions that work for their individual circumstances.


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    #394
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    tscul32 wrote: »
    My guys are quite bright and the 2nd class can do most of the revision maths that the 6th class one is getting, so he's finding it quite boring. It's easier for the 2nd class, he's still at that 'school is great' stage so happy to work away at the work assigned by school and I can give him 3rd or 4th class maths from Twinkl when he's bored - that's harder for 6th class without teaching new concepts, which I don't want to do.

    I dont know if you have heard of Khan academy. It is online and you log the children on they are tested and given maths at their level, which gradually goes up through the levels so the child can progress and there are maths videos and everything. I used to use it with the brighter kids in the class to keep them interested and challenged, might be of use


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    #395
    slipperyox
    Registered Users Posts: 593 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    This is a possibility for anyone working with a computer, whether from home or not. It hasn't stopped literally millions of people working.

    Well in litigation land, give it a chance.


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    #396
    tscul32
    Registered Users Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭tscul32


    khalessi wrote: »
    I dont know if you have heard of Khan academy. It is online and you log the children on they are tested and given maths at their level, which gradually goes up through the levels so the child can progress and there are maths videos and everything. I used to use it with the brighter kids in the class to keep them interested and challenged, might be of use

    Thanks, that is one of the sites I use. Thankfully there are endless online resources.


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    #397
    Stewie Griffin
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭Stewie Griffin


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    If you go back through her posts I believe she has in fairness.:)

    I can't see where she has, to be honest. Maybe I'm missing it.


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    #398
    TheValeyard
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    heldel00 wrote: »
    There's a cigire in you just bursting to get out.

    Well you know what they say about those who cannot teach, might suit her :D

    All Eyes On Rafah



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    #399
    Murple
    Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭Murple


    Neyite wrote: »
    In the private sector it's fairly simple - if you can continue to work from home, you do so. If you can't then your employer lays you off and you can contact Social Welfare for the €350 per week CoviDole.

    So even though I'm an area with sh!t broad band, feck all mobile signal, and a portion of my work is office based and can't be transferred online I'm trying a myriad of ways that I can remain working for my employer so I can continue to get paid. I've a bored kid that we need to tag team to entertain plus two cocooning households as well as my own to shop for as well as clocking in for 40hrs. I'll make it work, I've no choice.

    It'll never happen, but if the teachers who are currently radio silent were suddenly faced with either working from home or signing on there would be a bit more enthusiasm for tech solutions that work for their individual circumstances.

    Quick survey of my friends:
    Those in private sector roles who were expected to work from home were provided with laptops, tech support, advice on claiming work from home allowances for broadband etc.
    All those who are teachers were sent home on the day schools closed with no mention of online teaching and were later told they would need to provide for online/ remote teaching.


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    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    slipperyox wrote: »
    bit surreal, teachers talking on web cams to teenagers sitting on their beds in pajamas....

    You need rules and a proper procedural system before implementing this OP. If this was mentioned 6 months ago, you'd be laughed at...

    What happens if you accidentally upload a wrong file on your personal computer... can you be sued? Dam right a good lawyer would find ptsd with the kid. Your employer would deny any responsibility, and leave you out to dry.

    Just want to confirm, you might accidently upload an inappropriate file online so for that reason you should refuse to work, but still get paid?


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    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Murple wrote: »
    Quick survey of my friends:
    Those in private sector roles who were expected to work from home were provided with laptops, tech support, advice on claiming work from home allowances for broadband etc.
    All those who are teachers were sent home on the day schools closed with no mention of online teaching and were later told they would need to provide for online/ remote teaching.

    And how many of those private friends that didn't provide any of the above are sitting at home on full pay?

    I am public service and we have asked people to use their own equipment btw.


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    Darwin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Neyite wrote: »
    In the private sector it's fairly simple - if you can continue to work from home, you do so. If you can't then your employer lays you off and you can contact Social Welfare for the €350 per week CoviDole.

    So even though I'm an area with sh!t broad band, feck all mobile signal, and a portion of my work is office based and can't be transferred online I'm trying a myriad of ways that I can remain working for my employer so I can continue to get paid. I've a bored kid that we need to tag team to entertain plus two cocooning households as well as my own to shop for as well as clocking in for 40hrs. I'll make it work, I've no choice.

    It'll never happen, but if the teachers who are currently radio silent were suddenly faced with either working from home or signing on there would be a bit more enthusiasm for tech solutions that work for their individual circumstances.


    Funny you should mention that. The private sector company I rang to report dangerously low hanging fibre broadband cables crossing the road to my house (which I need to do my job remotely) was radio silent as you put it. The emergency number they provided went straight to voicemail and no follow up over a week later. Perhaps the employees are all on the CoviDole?


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    #403
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Just want to confirm, you might accidently upload an inappropriate file online so for that reason you should refuse to work, but still get paid?

    Translation that person is at home overdosing on porn and getting paid for it.:D


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    thomasdylan
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    Some excellent problem finding skills on display from some teachers. Not much on the problem solving front from some though.

    I hope when the inevitable pay freezes/cuts to the public sector happen that nurses, care assistants, etc. are protected ahead of teachers. I hope that the entire PS isn't lumped in together so that there is some recognition of frontline staff.


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    History Queen
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    thomasdylan wrote: »
    Some excellent problem finding skills on display from some teachers. Not much on the problem solving front from some though.

    I hope when the inevitable pay freezes/cuts to the public sector happen that nurses, care assistants, etc. are protected ahead of teachers. I hope that the entire PS isn't lumped in together so that there is some recognition of frontline staff.

    But no recognition for the hardworking teachers?


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    #406
    teachinggal123
    Registered Users Posts: 840 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    I hope everyone can see the sky digs and personal insults I’m getting from other teachers here. Exactly the same as the staff room if you propose to do anything extra or innovative.

    Protect the lazy teacher at all costs and circle the wagons.

    And all I’m doing is giving my own opinions and experiences.


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    History Queen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭History Queen


    teachinggal123 wrote: »
    I hope everyone can see the sky digs and personal insults I’m getting from other teachers here. Exactly the same as the staff room if you propose to do anything extra or innovative.

    Protect the lazy teacher at all costs and circle the wagons.

    And all I’m doing is giving my own opinions and experiences.

    So you can criticise others and claim their exoeriences are false? But your comments cannot be called in to question? You are infallible?


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    #408
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    My own experiences of teaching is that I am seeing teachers in my school of 70+ teachers workiing hard and having regular meetings with the principal online.
    My friends who are primary and secondary are also working hard.


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    thomasdylan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thomasdylan


    History Queen wrote: »
    But no recognition for the hardworking teachers?

    I don't think you can equate what is being expected of nurses and HCAs with what is being expected of teachers. There is a genuine health risk for frontline staff as we have seen in Italy, the UK and here unfortunately.


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    Neyite
    Administrators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Murple wrote: »
    Quick survey of my friends:
    Those in private sector roles who were expected to work from home were provided with laptops, tech support, advice on claiming work from home allowances for broadband etc.
    All those who are teachers were sent home on the day schools closed with no mention of online teaching and were later told they would need to provide for online/ remote teaching.

    There's many in the private sector that found their workplaces shut down, no notice, no answers on whether or not they'd have a job at the end of it. Or like me, were given what office equipment was available and have to try to be creative with what we have. I'm using my personal mobile, and my personal mobile data to stay connected to work so no, not all of us got fully equipped but some of us are adults who are capable of finding ways to work with our employers in difficult circumstances. In return our employers are being understanding that some of us may need to wait until after kids bedtimes to focus on critical things, or have to put up with babies or pets interrupting meetings.
    Darwin wrote: »
    Funny you should mention that. The private sector company I rang to report dangerously low hanging fibre broadband cables crossing the road to my house (which I need to do my job remotely) was radio silent as you put it. The emergency number they provided went straight to voicemail and no follow up over a week later. Perhaps the employees are all on the CoviDole?

    I've no idea, maybe they are. I'm with Three and they also had connectivity issues in my area that are due to last a week and seriously disrupt my work as well. I can only connect after 6pm which sucks.


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    #411
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    I would love to see a thread were people praised the teachers who they knew were woriking hard


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    teachinggal123
    Registered Users Posts: 840 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    History Queen wrote: »
    So you can criticise others and claim their exoeriences are false? But your comments cannot be called in to question? You are infallible?

    Can you show me one example where I told others their experiences were false?

    Just one will do.


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    History Queen
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    thomasdylan wrote: »
    I don't think you can equate what is being expected of nurses and HCAs with what is being expected of teachers. There is a genuine health risk for frontline staff as we have seen in Italy, the UK and here unfortunately.

    Ok so only if your health is at risk should your efforts be recognised. So only nurses and HCAs who work in covid wards? How about everyone is paid fairly for the work they do and allowed work in acceptable conditions. (I have family members nurses and their working conditions are horrendous usually due to under staffing). Two of them are not on covid wards or at any extra risk, they I assume will not be recognised by you.


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    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    teachinggal123 wrote: »
    I hope everyone can see the sky digs and personal insults I’m getting from other teachers here. Exactly the same as the staff room if you propose to do anything extra or innovative.

    Protect the lazy teacher at all costs and circle the wagons.

    And all I’m doing is giving my own opinions and experiences.

    Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.:)


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    heldel00
    Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭heldel00


    teachinggal123 wrote: »
    I hope everyone can see the sky digs and personal insults I’m getting from other teachers here. Exactly the same as the staff room if you propose to do anything extra or innovative.

    Protect the lazy teacher at all costs and circle the wagons.

    And all I’m doing is giving my own opinions and experiences.

    No you're not. You are fishing for "thanks" and trying to blow a whistle that doesn't need to be blown.
    Most teachers are meeting the needs of their students. I have previously said - that differs from school to school. What works in your school (and thank god I am not on a staff with you) may not necessarily work in another school.
    You will have lazy people in every profession but you are pontificating that everyone, bar you, is lazy and doing nothing.

    I'm weary of this thread at this stage.


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    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    khalessi wrote: »
    I would love to see a thread were people praised the teachers who they knew were woriking hard

    Nothing stopping you starting one if you wish this thread is discussing the lazy ones that are doing nothing.:cool:


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    Stewie Griffin
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭Stewie Griffin


    teachinggal123 wrote: »
    I hope everyone can see the sky digs and personal insults I’m getting from other teachers here. Exactly the same as the staff room if you propose to do anything extra or innovative.

    Protect the lazy teacher at all costs and circle the wagons.

    And all I’m doing is giving my own opinions and experiences.

    I'm not digging, but I can't see where you have told us what you're doing yourself for your students. You have plenty of information on what your colleagues are doing or not doing.


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    History Queen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭History Queen


    teachinggal123 wrote: »
    Can you show me one example where I told others their experiences were false?

    Just one will do.

    Here you go....


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    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Nothing stopping you starting one if you wish this thread is discussing the lazy ones that are doing nothing.:cool:

    THis thread title indicates that teachers are working but not doing videos, it is the people posting on it that have altered the heading to basj teahers


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    lulublue22
    Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    teachinggal123 wrote: »
    I hope everyone can see the sky digs and personal insults I’m getting from other teachers here. Exactly the same as the staff room if you propose to do anything extra or innovative.

    Protect the lazy teacher at all costs and circle the wagons.

    And all I’m doing is giving my own opinions and experiences.

    No sly digs and personal insults. You are entitled to your own opinions but your experiences can not be extrapolated to encompass the majority of teachers across the education system. A number of teachers have indicated that your experiences are not the norm ( not sure why their experiences are not valid but yours are) and are not indicative of their school setting. In my
    opinion there is an issue within your school which I personally would raise at management level. It is up to you how you address / not address the issue but don't be surprised if people don't agree with your generalisation when it doesn't apply to their experiences and opinions.


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    #421
    thomasdylan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 514 ✭✭✭thomasdylan


    History Queen wrote: »
    But no recognition for the hardworking teachers?
    History Queen wrote: »
    Ok so only if your health is at risk should your efforts be recognised. So only nurses and HCAs who work in covid wards? How about everyone is paid fairly for the work they do and allowed work in acceptable conditions. (I have family members nurses and their working conditions are horrendous usually due to under staffing). Two of them are not on covid wards or at any extra risk, they I assume will not be recognised by you.

    Its pretty bad that your understanding of the hospital situation is so shallow that you think nurses and HCAs aren't at risk if they're not working on COVID wards.

    Guidelines today changed BTW that for all patient encounters on COVID or non-COVID wards a mask should be worn.

    While your nurse family members are going to work, all that is expected of you is to work from home. It's not in the same league. It's embrassing you can't seem to see the difference here.


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