Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

timsey tiger

splinter65 wrote: »

You’d have to wonder what is the harm if I wander around my neighbours side entrance and sit in a deck chair socially distanced from the next person drinking my own beer and enjoying her fire pit and her spotify list before wandering home.

Right next to her slowly expanding cloud of covid air, as the evening zephyr gently wafts it in your direction.

igCorcaigh

Interesting article on how strange the effects of the virus on some people are.

"Blood clots form throughout the body. The brain and intestines may also be affected. Some suffer changes to their personality, suggesting brain damage."

How is this possible?' Researchers grapple with Covid-19's mysterious mechanism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/how-is-this-possible-researchers-grapple-with-covid-19s-mysterious-mechanism

GM228

Fann Linn wrote: »

Thanks, didn't know that, thought it was just essential places.

Garden centres and hardware stores are legally allowed to open and defined as essential services, many have just chosen not to open though.

frillyleaf

Is there something wrong with this thread loading or is there something wrong with the site? Haven't been able to access it on my phone at all since yesterday and it takes a minute to change page :eek:

Wombatman

After painstaking investigation there seems very little wrong with the Swedish model.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/hbz-elsa-hosk-vs-459846234-1510601473.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&resize=768:*

PmMeUrDogs

frillyleaf wrote: »

Is there something wrong with this thread loading or is there something wrong with the site? Haven't been able to access it on my phone at all since yesterday and it takes a minute to change page :eek:

Site is fecked on touch, it's working fine on my computer but not at all on mobile

Miike

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Interesting viewpoint from the WHO on the Swedish model

https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/who-lauds-sweden-as-model-for-resisting-coronavirus-lockdown/

What is interesting about those comments? He simple says Sweden took the approach to rely on their citizens. If the solution is relying on Irish people to get it together and follow a similar path we're ****ed. We're totally and utterly ****ed. If the measures we have taken show us anything, it's that we cannot rely on our citizens to do what's in the best interest of society. While the vast majority of people DID follow our guidelines it only takes a hand full of knuckle draggers to **** it up, which we have droves of, as seen in the last few weeks.

Wibbs

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Interesting article on how strange the effects of the virus on some people are.

"Blood clots form throughout the body. The brain and intestines may also be affected. Some suffer changes to their personality, suggesting brain damage."

How is this possible?' Researchers grapple with Covid-19's mysterious mechanism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/how-is-this-possible-researchers-grapple-with-covid-19s-mysterious-mechanism

It's a puzzler alright Ig, though if you look at other viral illnesses you'll always have a percentage of people with weird symptoms. So there's that. If you take influenza, particularly the nasty strains you'll have up to a quarter of infected that will have zero symptoms, most will have the "usual" symptoms in varying degrees of severity, from felling a bit meh all the way up to dying from it, but you'll also have a small percentage with oddball symptoms too. Rashes, gastro issues, septic shock type symptoms. In the very old flu can come with delirium and confusion which suggests neurological involvement. IIRC the 1918 Spanish pandemic had its fair share of odd symptoms in many.

Now this is a new virus for us all(though we've likely all had some form of coronavirus before. A percentage of the common cold is corona in nature) and we're scrabbling to keep track of the little bastard, so the natural tendency is to jump at everything and anything that comes along, from odd symptoms to treatments.

Plus it's possible that some of the treatments we're giving to the hospitalised might be causing symptoms that aren't actually Covid19 in nature, or are interacting in a way that makes it look like they could be.

PmMeUrDogs

Heard a few stories on FB (I know, I know) that the Gardai were essentially too afraid to approach groups of people congregating in working class areas. I figured it was bollocks.


However, the Gardai were called this evening on a large group (50+) congregating in my own area, came along in their car, pulled down their windows, waved and left everyone to their completely not distanced p*ss up. I thought they were meant to break that crap up?!

Wibbs

I don't blame the Gardai in many cases like that P. I mean it was what, a fortnight or more after the lockdown came in where they were given any extra powers to enforce it. Plus if they do come out all guns blazing they're damned. They're damned if the do, or if they don't.

Kermit.de.frog

Ecuador reports 308 new deaths and a gross underestimate according to reports from the country which is being hit very badly.

India reports 100 new deaths which is the highest for them so far, again most observers believe that to be a serious underestimate.

GM228

frillyleaf wrote: »

Is there something wrong with this thread loading or is there something wrong with the site? Haven't been able to access it on my phone at all since yesterday and it takes a minute to change page :eek:

There's an issue with the Boards servers the last number of days, there was an announcement from the Boards team saying they are aware of it and working to fix, but they don't know when it will be fixed, it's a server issue due to "nodes under strain" and only seems to affect touch version.

Jinglejangle69

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ecuador reports 308 new deaths and a gross underestimate according to reports from the country which is being hit very badly.

India reports 100 new deaths which is the highest for them so far, again most observers believe that to be a serious underestimate.

Russia had 9,600 cases today.

Higher than America.

podgeandrodge

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Interesting viewpoint from the WHO on the Swedish model

https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/who-lauds-sweden-as-model-for-resisting-coronavirus-lockdown/

Miike wrote: »

What is interesting about those comments?...

That I found them interesting.

Kermit.de.frog

1,471 deaths recorded so far today across the states, 67,224 total. Over 70,000 on Monday at this rate.

Speak Now

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Russia had 9,600 cases today.

Higher than America.

No way USA will be less than Russia today.

sterz

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

1,471 deaths recorded so far today across the states, 67,224 total. Over 70,000 on Monday at this rate.

Were you right last week? Any guess for all the Monday's going forward, maybe get them out of the way in one post?

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The US just flew past 53,000 deaths, 1001 so far today. Will probably pass 54k before the end of the day.

Trump's great 60k projection will be lucky to last out Monday.

Jim_Hodge

sterz wrote: »

Were you right last week? Any guess for all the Monday's going forward, maybe get them out of the way in one post?

It didn't take a genius to project their figures last week. They topped 60000 by Tuesday. They'll have to be 70000 by Monday/Tuesday next.

New Home

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Italy haven't loosened any restrictions until next week.

Incorrect, they already have lifted some. For instance, people can now travel 5km from their house (as opposed to the 200mts beforehand) and, if I'm not mistaken, they can also visit family members. Some open air markets have reopened, too. IIRC, they've also reopened slot machine places (I'll look for the link later).

GM228 wrote: »

There's an issue with the Boards servers the last number of days, there was an announcement from the Boards team saying they are aware of it and working to fix, but they don't know when it will be fixed, it's a server issue due to "nodes under strain" and only seems to affect touch version.

Not only the touch version, believe you me. The desktop version is also crawling (actually, crawling would indicate some sort of movement...).

stephenjmcd

New Home wrote: »

Incorrect, they already have lifted some. For instance, people can now travel 5km from their house (as opposed to the 200mts beforehand) and, if I'm not mistaken, they can also visit family members. Some open air markets have reopened, too. IIRC, they've also reopened slot machine places (I'll look for the link later).



Not only the touch version, believe you me. The desktop version is also crawling (actually, crawling would indicate some sort of movement...).

Sorry your right some regions have, the nation is due to move to 'phase 2' on Monday I think it is, more industry reopening

Strumms

Wibbs wrote: »

I don't blame the Gardai in many cases like that P. I mean it was what, a fortnight or more after the lockdown came in where they were given any extra powers to enforce it. Plus if they do come out all guns blazing they're damned. They're damned if the do, or if they don't.

One patrol car with two to three Gardai vs fifty pissed up scrote clowns... I’d be waving at them too myself, no way would I be risking my own wellbeing and safety when my own bosses (the state) don’t have the resources to support me in the job I’m trying to do FOR the state. Wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends, kids and other loved ones at home ? Struggling and worrying under the pressure of everything that’s happening and you are supposed to wade in and disperse 50 pissed up angry twats, you two mates and a Ford Focus.

timsey tiger

I don't know, it's like anything the gardai could do would seem an over reaction.

Miike

Strumms wrote: »

One patrol car with two to three Gardai vs fifty pissed up scrote clowns... I’d be waving at them too myself, no way would I be risking my own wellbeing and safety when my own bosses (the state) don’t have the resources to support me in the job I’m trying to do FOR the state. Wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends, kids and other loved ones at home ? Struggling and worrying under the pressure of everything that’s happening and you are supposed to wade in and disperse 50 pissed up angry twats, you two mates and a Ford Focus.

So what are they currently being paid for?

splinter65

splinter65 wrote: »

You’d have to wonder what is the harm if I wander around my neighbours side entrance and sit in a deck chair socially distanced from the next person drinking my own beer and enjoying her fire pit and her spotify list before wandering home.

As long as your not huddled together by the river I suppose

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112915479&postcount=418

fullstop

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ecuador reports 308 new deaths and a gross underestimate according to reports from the country which is being hit very badly.

India reports 100 new deaths which is the highest for them so far, again most observers believe that to be a serious underestimate.

You could likely multiply each of those by 10.

MipMap

Strumms wrote: »

One patrol car with two to three Gardai vs fifty pissed up scrote clowns... I’d be waving at them too myself, no way would I be risking my own wellbeing and safety when my own bosses (the state) don’t have the resources to support me in the job I’m trying to do FOR the state. Wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends, kids and other loved ones at home ? Struggling and worrying under the pressure of everything that’s happening and you are supposed to wade in and disperse 50 pissed up angry twats, you two mates and a Ford Focus.

And Rules, Laws, Guidelines, Recommendations etc., all changing on a weekly basis they must be struggling to keep clear with what they can and can't do.

Kermit.de.frog

Fewer than 1 in 5 Brits think the lock down there should be lifted

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/02/fearful-britons-oppose-lifting-lockdown-schools-pubs-restaurants-opinium-poll

Strumms

Strumms wrote: »

One patrol car with two to three Gardai vs fifty pissed up scrote clowns... I’d be waving at them too myself, no way would I be risking my own wellbeing and safety when my own bosses (the state) don’t have the resources to support me in the job I’m trying to do FOR the state. Wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends, kids and other loved ones at home ? Struggling and worrying under the pressure of everything that’s happening and you are supposed to wade in and disperse 50 pissed up angry twats, you two mates and a Ford Focus.

If they did and it escalated, it'd be on Facebook and you'd have the usual crew on there, here and elsewhere complaining about police brutality.

fritzelly

DubInMeath wrote: »

If they did and it escalated, it'd be on Facebook and you'd have the usual crew on there, here and elsewhere complaining about police brutality.

And Gemma, John and crew saying look, look, look whats happening
What happened to their court case by the way - hope its costing them thousands and thousands

MipMap

fritzelly wrote: »

And Gemma, John and crew saying look, look, look whats happening
What happened to their court case by the way - hope its costing them thousands and thousands

18 minutes since the last post.


Have we flattened the curve?

ACitizenErased

I'm far from a conspiracy theorist, but I'm leaning towards the Wuhan lab theory tbh. It seems far too much of a coincidence that this major virus just 'happened' to come from the city with China's largest virus laboratory. Their refusal to accept WHO investigating teams also feeds this theory. It's completely plausible.

Non solum non ambulabit

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm far from a conspiracy theorist, but I'm leaning towards the Wuhan lab theory tbh. It seems far too much of a coincidence that this major virus just 'happened' to come from the city with China's largest virus laboratory. Their refusal to accept WHO investigating teams also feeds this theory. It's completely plausible.

I've come round to this thinking as well. Mistake rather than malicious.

Strumms

Miike wrote: »

So what are they currently being paid for?

To do a job, which in the instance shown they didn’t have the required resources to do.

Like sending Roger Federer into Wimbledon without a racket.

Strumms

DubInMeath wrote: »

If they did and it escalated, it'd be on Facebook and you'd have the usual crew on there, here and elsewhere complaining about police brutality.

I’d have zero issue with that.

ACitizenErased

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

I've come round to this thinking as well. Mistake rather than malicious.

Oh absolutely yeah I've no doubt that it could've been a mistake. A lot seem to instantly deny this rumour but there's no reason to suggest it couldn't be true.

BorneTobyWilde

https://streamable.com/ik8ugh

I don't get this Ad.

'' keep your head up, keep your arse home.
... ..keep your arse home''

fritzelly

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://streamable.com/ik8ugh

I don't get this Ad.

'' keep your head up, keep your arse home.
... ..keep your arse home''

Lol it does sound like that but it is heart strong

fritzelly

fritzelly wrote: »

And Gemma, John and crew saying look, look, look whats happening
What happened to their court case by the way - hope its costing them thousands and thousands

Don't know about the case, but they decided to have a bit of a party today in the Phoenix park. Mate's brother who was duty dealing with them heard such classics as, "natural law outweighs your law" (something that I've seen posted on here) and "I'm a man of god, and as such I know only computers get viruses".

Apparently it took most of his will power not to piss himself laughing right in your man's face at the last one.

MipMap

fritzelly wrote: »

Lol it does sound like that but it is heart strong

No
He say's "Keep your Arse Whole":)

wakka12

17 deaths in Nigeria today, tiny number for the size of the country, but it is by far the most deaths any sub saharan African country has reported in a single day so far

GM228

fritzelly wrote: »

And Gemma, John and crew saying look, look, look whats happening
What happened to their court case by the way - hope its costing them thousands and thousands

Case due to be heard on Tuesday.

DubInMeath wrote: »

Don't know about the case, but they decided to have a bit of a party today in the Phoenix park. Mate's brother who was duty dealing with them heard such classics as, "natural law outweighs your law" (something that I've seen posted on here) and "I'm a man of god, and as such I know only computers get viruses".

Apparently it took most of his will power not to piss himself laughing right in your man's face at the last one.

Classic freeman BS.

SEPT 23 1989

RIP to all the Irish men and women who passed away in nursing homes in the last few weeks

After all your life's struggles you deserved so much better in the end

Onesea

I seen a comment on yt, a person mentioned nobody was taking this seriously in South Africa.
Hope the world doesn't fall apart before lockdown is lifted

Plumbthedepths

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

RIP to all the Irish men and women who passed away in nursing homes in the last few weeks

After all your life's struggles you deserved so much better in the end

If only the government and health service had some advance warning of whom were the most vulnerable.....

MipMap

Onesea wrote: »

I seen a comment on yt, a person mentioned nobody was taking this seriously in South Africa.
Hope the world doesn't fall apart before lockdown is lifted

As always they will be sadly left at the end of the queue.

ShineOn7

wakka12 wrote: »

17 deaths in Nigeria today, tiny number for the size of the country, but it is by far the most deaths any sub saharan African country has reported in a single day so far

There's something very, very off about the African numbers. I'm presuming they're barely testing anyone

Onesea

Onesea wrote: »

I seen a comment on yt, a person mentioned nobody was taking this seriously in South Africa.
Hope the world doesn't fall apart before lockdown is lifted

http://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20200501-relief-for-south-africans-as-covid-19-lockdown-measures-relaxed

During the lockdown over there people were shot, beaten and jailed for breaking the lockdown, doubt that they weren't talking it seriously.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52125713

ShineOn7

jill_valentine wrote: »

People taking the piss altogether today. "Some restrictions loosened on Tuesday" has been taken to mean "Go absolutely ape**** on Saturday". There was a full scale street party going on around the corner?!?

I'm pro transparency as a rule, but I'm starting to understand why governments might parcel stuff out in small doses. A lot of people are just too stupid and too short sighted to be trusted to use common sense.

100% this. Irish people are social animals and they don't like being told what to do. When you put those two together, it's a very dangerous mix in this situation

I know by the time the June 8th one comes around we'll have carnage and a rising RO again. The Irish can't help themselves

I'm looking at a self enforced lockdown till September until I see just how fúcking stupid we are as a nation

wakka12

ShineOn7 wrote: »

There's something very, very off about the African numbers. I'm presuming they're barely testing anyone

Perhaps..or they may have just got lucky and escaped an epidemic, plenty of places in Eastern Europe for example never had any widespread outbreaks. To be fair, most African countries are implementing very severe lockdowns

ACitizenErased

wakka12 wrote: »

Perhaps..or they may have just got lucky and escaped an epidemic, plenty of places in Eastern Europe for example never had any widespread outbreaks. To be fair, most African countries are implementing very severe lockdowns

As of 28th April they were testing 3000 per day.

https://ncdc.gov.ng/reports/weekly


Not exactly fantastic numbers for a country of 196 million!