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Social Affordable Housing and Pajama People

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Why do they do it?
    Is it some sort of fashion, or is it simply the case that they just don't bother to get dressed?

    Big fashion trend, started by these two pioneers.

    278062cc8ce26e1fff7348aa0f918e02.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭Tommybojangles


    Had 2 in front of me in the shop last week, availing of the 20 cans for 20 quid sale. One started giving out about the cold.

    The cold.

    (i) It's a relatively warm April.
    (ii) Put on clothes

    It's really horrible to think of all of the people who are going to be forced onto the dole in the coming months and how it's going to affect them and then you have these creatures delighted with themselves


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    topper75 wrote: »
    --- and then, will make a concerted effort to get off it again when the opportunity arises.

    Get the difference?

    Not really, if they are willing to take the handout they shouldn't bash it, its hypocritical. Surprised some of the smug ones ive seen would even lower themselves too it.. such high class upstanding citizens are surely above government hand outs since they make threads on the regular about "scum" on it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    No, but these houses are really nice, A rated, solar panels and charginging points for electric cars.

    What does it tell you that some of the residents cant even be arsed to get dressed?

    I'm off shift today. Normally up at 545am to work 12 hours to pay 53% tax to pay for these wasters.

    Joke of a country.

    53% tax clearly you are struggling, have you thought about moving to a country that is less of a "joke" ? i mean you're clearly well off but chose to spend your time moaning about people on social welfare...its abit sad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Cupatae wrote: »
    53% tax clearly you are struggling, have you thought about moving to a country that is less of a "joke" ? i mean you're clearly well off but chose to spend your time moaning about people on social welfare...its abit sad.

    Hes telling the truth though...anyone in modest employment with a family in this country is wasting their time.

    We should all wear pajamas and stay on the dole for life. Theres more thought of you than working for anything close to minimum wage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Hes telling the truth though...anyone in modest employment with a family in this country is wasting their time.

    We should all wear pajamas and stay on the dole for life. Theres more thought of you than working for anything close to minimum wage

    Ok. You first. Be sure to come back and tell us what it's like.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Hes telling the truth though...anyone in modest employment with a family in this country is wasting their time.

    We should all wear pajamas and stay on the dole for life. Theres more thought of you than working for anything close to minimum wage

    Well that "dream" life is there for everyone, get your pjs on and hit for the social. Give us an update on your new life when ya get settled in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Ultrflat


    Don't see it where I live all that much, most women around here really do take care of them selves.

    Tho there is that mad eld one who was walking around in heels and a dressing gown :pac: and more make up then a clown. But shes harmless and makes me laugh so I don't really care. Not because she looks like a clown.. Just the voice. its like listening to a trolly dolly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I know somebody who used do this however they used spend about on hour on make-up because you couldn't be seen dead outside your house without your face caked in it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    Every time the subject comes up, I’m reminded of the type in this video who seem to have a woeful stick up their arse over the most ridiculous things :D



    That is a very strange commercial.

    Are vauxhall cars aimed at knackbags, or did their marketing department make a seismic error in judgement?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Walked past the beautiful new Social Affordable estate of about 20 houses near my house.

    Shocked to see 4 overweight women walking around in their pajamas at 10.40 am

    I thought this behaviour was just a stereotype.

    Shame as it looked like the estate was very nice.

    Hoping it's just a Covid thing, but how can people do that?

    This is why social and private housing should NOT be mixed. My children should not have to witness Jacinta, Anto and the rest of the vermin marching around in PJs and dressing gowns.

    We’ve become tone deaf in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    I’m too old fashioned I suppose but it’s part of the modern trend of people thinking that they have the right to do anything that they like regardless of the rest of the population, they are probably the people who dump rubbish in quiet places at dead of night


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    It's more about what the clothes represent.

    A lazy, selfish, free loading lifestyle which the rest of us have to pay for.

    Are you talking about bankers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Paulownia wrote:
    I’m too old fashioned I suppose but it’s part of the modern trend of people thinking that they have the right to do anything that they like regardless of the rest of the population, they are probably the people who dump rubbish in quiet places at dead of night


    Bang on, I dump it anywhere, everywhere, shur I don't give a bollocks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    How difficult is it to get dressed FFS?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    How difficult is it to get dressed FFS?

    To them as difficult as getting a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,468 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    bubblypop wrote: »
    you should have asked them how to spell pyjamas

    Da childer dowunt be sleepin too well dees daze wot wit de vires, dowunt ya noze


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,468 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    Are you talking about bankers?

    Edgy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,468 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    New dwellings must comply with the latest building regulations, which is part of the reason they're 'nice'. Would people be happier if we had a suite of 'lesser' building regulations which only applied to social housing?

    Yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Bang on, I dump it anywhere, everywhere, shur I don't give a bollocks

    Unfortunately you are not alone in this, shame on you! Do you really want to live in a country that’s a rubbish dump?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Urethral Buttercup


    All of you people sitting at home are "pajamas people" now. Get a little humility and perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Urethral Buttercup


    Cobalt17 wrote: »
    This is why social and private housing should NOT be mixed. My children should not have to witness Jacinta, Anto and the rest of the vermin marching around in PJs and dressing gowns.

    The library is doing free call outs to people like yourself that are sitting at home getting state benefits while people like me are out working my hole off. I suggest you go ahead and ask for Mein Kampf. Plenty in there that will interest you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    The library is doing free call outs to people like yourself that are sitting at home getting state benefits while people like me are out working my hole off. I suggest you go ahead and ask for Mein Kampf. Plenty in there that will interest you.

    I work from home love, try again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Urethral Buttercup


    Cobalt17 wrote: »
    I work from home love, try again.

    Five star story bud, well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    10.40? My neighbours were in the front garden earlier at 4pm in their pyjamas and dressing gowns


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    Five star story bud, well done.

    Thanks, always good to have fans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭I Am Nobody


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Walked past the beautiful new Social Affordable estate of about 20 houses near my house.

    Shocked to see 4 overweight women walking around in their pajamas at 10.40 am

    I thought this behaviour was just a stereotype.

    Shame as it looked like the estate was very nice.

    Hoping it's just a Covid thing, but how can people do that?

    Welcome to my world. In my estate there are 10 council houses inhabited by the pyjama wearing, orange tan, hoop earring wearing variety. Add their teenage offspring who drink cans in the green areas and shout at the elderly residences.


    Will the Council or Garda enforce anti-social rules? Don't hold your breathe for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    All of you people sitting at home are "pajamas people" now. Get a little humility and perspective.

    Sorry I don’t wear pyjamas, perhaps I should if only when sitting at home!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    When did people lose self respect, what did we do as a society?
    When I was young everyone seemed to have more respect for each other and themselves, there was a sense of community which has gone, certainly in urban areas, this is a serious question!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    Paulownia wrote: »
    When did people lose self respect, what did we do as a society?
    When I was young everyone seemed to have more respect for each other and themselves, there was a sense of community which has gone, certainly in urban areas, this is a serious question!

    Reliance on welfare + soft-touch laws


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    Cobalt17 wrote: »
    Reliance on welfare + soft-touch laws

    It’s more than that. I grew up in a council house and my father was often on the dole and my mother made sure her children didn’t do the same and she made sure that we went to school and did well, the state paid for me to go to university and our neighbours were supportive and now young people from there tell me that they get jeered by their peer group when they go to university


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭Cobalt17


    Paulownia wrote: »
    It’s more than that. I grew up in a council house and my father was often on the dole and my mother made sure her children didn’t do the same and she made sure that we went to school and did well, the state paid for me to go to university and our neighbours were supportive and now young people from there tell me that they get jeered by their peer group when they go to university

    Your father was often on the dole, but he also worked. I’m talking about people who are entirely reliant on welfare, generationally, and have no desire to work at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Its the new Ireland that many of the PC brigade crave for, sad to see the lack of respect humans have for themselves and their communities...we might end up having a reverse darwin process ending up back at Ape-Monkey stage soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    Cobalt17 wrote: »
    Your father was often on the dole, but he also worked. I’m talking about people who are entirely reliant on welfare, generationally, and have no desire to work at all.

    But why? Do they have no wish to escape, that is what I don’t get, my mother cleaned houses and I never heard her complain, the people that she worked for gave her the clothes we all wore


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Cobalt17 wrote: »
    This is why social and private housing should NOT be mixed. My children should not have to witness Jacinta, Anto and the rest of the vermin marching around in PJs and dressing gowns.

    We’ve become tone deaf in this country.

    I live in a social/private development and its great. Yeah there are one of two scumbags families but the rest are grand.

    Our kids play with a variety of kids in the area and as far as im aware so do all the other children. Think it's a great idea mixing people from different social backgrounds personally.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Paulownia wrote: »
    It’s more than that. I grew up in a council house and my father was often on the dole and my mother made sure her children didn’t do the same and she made sure that we went to school and did well, the state paid for me to go to university and our neighbours were supportive and now young people from there tell me that they get jeered by their peer group when they go to university

    You said it yourself, your parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    You said it yourself, your parents.

    Not only my parents but the community we lived in, a neighbour bought me a suit for my graduation


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Paulownia wrote: »
    Not only my parents but the community we lived in, a neighbour bought me a suit for my graduation

    Fantastic. Sounds like a close knit group.

    Can't really say anything about what happened. Drugs in the 80s and 90s? Softening of rules? Rise of the nanny State?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    The library is doing free call outs to people like yourself that are sitting at home getting state benefits while people like me are out working my hole off. I suggest you go ahead and ask for Mein Kampf. Plenty in there that will interest you.

    I think you are barking up the wrong tree there. In one chapter, the author of that particular work was blatantly IN FAVOUR of people being in pyjamas outdoors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,170 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Paulownia wrote: »
    When did people lose self respect, what did we do as a society?
    When I was young everyone seemed to have more respect for each other and themselves, there was a sense of community which has gone, certainly in urban areas, this is a serious question!

    You do realise that every generation of hand wringers before you has said almost the exact same thing - pretty much word for word?

    Think carefully, I bet your parents said the same thing about society they grew up in compared to the one they found as adults.

    And I bet their parents said the same.


    People are mind numbingly predictable and boring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    The pyjamas brigade are outbreeding people getting up going to work so it makes sense the pyjamas brigade would be more noticeable in recent years .

    Many people who work and want to raise their children in a decent manner can not afford more than 1 or 2 children whilst those on benefits in many cases let someone else worry about their many children and the costs .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    If there's anything Irish people love, it's pinning obscene house prices and rents on people in pjamas.

    It was them all along. The pjama people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    'Get bothered over what clothes people wear', thread.

    I think you'll find it's more like "get bothered over lazy parasites milking the welfare and healthcare systems for all it's worth" thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    Yurt! wrote: »
    If there's anything Irish people love, it's pinning obscene house prices and rents on people in pjamas.

    It was them all along. The pjama people.

    Haha in fairness I doubt the pyjama wearing crew are burdened much with mortgages and their rent would largely be state subsidized.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I wonder will the incoming recession force the government into cutting child benefit after the second child? I have never been able to work out why it suits the government to give child benefit to someone who has a load of kids, especially as the sort that do, dont generally contribute to society. also the super rich shouldnt get child benefit in my opinion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    I wonder will the incoming recession force the government into cutting child benefit after the second child? I have never been able to work out why it suits the government to give child benefit to someone who has a load of kids, especially as the sort that do, dont generally contribute to society. also the super rich shouldnt get child benefit in my opinion.

    Only 1 thing is absolutely guaranteed in the upcoming recession = the middle class will pay for it no matter who's in power.

    I doubt they'll reduce child benefit much as that tends to be seen as 'an attack on families' (great media/opposition term that). Rather the pain will be felt across a wide section of middle income earners.

    Now if you're a single, childless person of working age then you will be crucified more than most because you'll have very little sympathy colateral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Only 1 thing is absolutely guaranteed in the upcoming recession = the middle class will pay for it no matter who's in power.

    I doubt they'll reduce child benefit much as that tends to be seen as 'an attack on families' (great media/opposition term that). Rather the pain will be felt across a wide section of middle income earners.

    Now if you're a single, childless person of working age then you will be crucified more than most because you'll have very little sympathy colateral.




    The way I see it is if they can cut carers allowance like they did in the last recession and funding for disabled kids etc how can they think its ok to pay out millions to waster families who have 10 kids?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    The way I see it is if they can cut carers allowance like they did in the last recession and funding for disabled kids etc how can they think its ok to pay out millions to waster families who have 10 kids?

    Look you'll always have your Margaret Cash type people who'll have as many childer as possible send the bill to the tax payer but they are in the minority.

    Also the state's hands are largely tied because to be fair the children are not to blame, they can't be denied basic rights just because their parents couldn't give a single fúck about the tax payer.

    Ultimately the government has to make a decision on who gets cut and who doesn't and their decision more often than not will be the one which does the least damage to themselves. It's selfish but that's politics.

    Again look at the last recession, most of us suffered but the middle earners more so than most. It will be the same this time, that's a guarantee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    The way I see it is if they can cut carers allowance like they did in the last recession and funding for disabled kids etc how can they think its ok to pay out millions to waster families who have 10 kids?

    What happens if a family have 5 children and then the breadwinners lose their job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Paulownia


    pablo128 wrote: »
    What happens if a family have 5 children and then the breadwinners lose their job?

    They apply for the dole, rent allowance or a moratorium on mortgage payments and they have 5 children’s allowances. Would you like to see them get more?


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